bigfoot is real I have the proof

[Creekfreak]

no thats just his assesment just as it was just PC s assesment of the photos I say they are worng every one can proven worng . But you have not yet to prove me worng . lock Dark knows bigfoot is real he has seen them himself . He has gone aganst me on this photo becouse I did not follow the mabrc policies he has not tryed to ruin me in the least he has just gvien his opinon from what he was given to work with in a very short time frame . like ive said john worked on this for a while before he returned it to me . I feel if dark would have had a longer time to work on them then his assesment would have been different . he has even stated that to me himself they allways work for weeks before puting a photo out to the public to see . This is the norm for the mabrc I went aganst that becouse i saw a chance to make money and i did offer to share any profits from it with the mabrc . They never turned me down when they may have had a chance for some funding . Theres more to it then this even the bfro is involved.

 

[AudioFreak]

And now he's trying to insinuate that darkwing is being dishonest! What a piece of work.

Creek, you do more to hurt the Bigfoot community's reputation than Jack Links.

 

[Creekfreak]

I am not here to attack Dark but I will if need be . no the bigfoot community's reputation has been hurt by them not me I am on my own here . I am an independent researcher I am not a part of the politics of any bigfoot group or community or member of any bigfoot forum . I have been in the past but not anymore . From here on out none of my research that I am doing and none of my recent findings will ever be disclosed to any of them again . Knowlage is power my freind I know something they dont so I will allways have the upper hand .

 

[AudioFreak]

If only you had knowledge of grammar and maybe a book on 'intro to logic'... maybe then you could present your case in some kind of meaningful way. Nothing good will come of attacking the people who have honestly tried to help you. You damage the bigfoot community (as in, the people who believe bigfoot exists, not just another forum) in that people might get the impression that other "footers" are like you; incapable of accepting evidence, childish, illiterate and a liar.

I submit that you're delusional, Creek. It's either that you're delusional or a flat out liar. Based on the contradictions you've spat out, you're either too blinded by pride and fantasy to see the truth, or you're simply lying (one can only speculate as to why). If nothing else, this thread has helped get my post count up.

 

[kitakaze]

John was the person that enhanced the photo for me . He has never said to me or any one else it is a bigfoot in the picture he just did the work on it .

Ah-ha.

I told them that to get there attention . I had what john said and what Dark said to back me up at the time you could say that it was just court room drama

Uh-oh.

I'm so confused I'll just ask again:

Yes, exactly what did Mr. Russo do to prove the images as a legitimate images of bigfoots?

Also, freak, why not ask Mr. Russo to verify your claims.

 

[catbasket]

From here on out none of my research that I am doing and none of my recent findings will ever be disclosed to any of them again .

Cue huge sigh of relief from "them".

 

[kitakaze]

I submit that you're delusional, Creek. It's either that you're delusional or a flat out liar. Based on the contradictions you've spat out, you're either too blinded by pride and fantasy to see the truth, or you're simply lying (one can only speculate as to why). If nothing else, this thread has helped get my post count up.

As I have shown and freak has admitted, door number two is correct. That does not discount the possibility of also being delusional but I don't think so.

 

[mikeyx]

No lal you give it up . Get your facts straight before you start makeing acusations . Ok here we go first of all thanks for TRYING PC . What you have said is far from true . As Ive stated before nothing I repeat nothing has been added or taken away from this photo not one pixel . So far no one has proven other wise so your still just speculating . At this time its not a matter of if it is a bigfoot or not its a matter of honesty and intregrty and so far that has not been demonstraited by any of you . Mine how ever has still not been proven to be anything other then what Ive said to be true . Yours on the other hand is very questionable . In a court of law I would win hands down in a case of slander if you would like to go that route then lets have some names . Lt what is your real name ? Any one else what to clear your names ? If you cant stand behind your so called good names then you cant stand behind any of what you have said about this photo . You have been given the evidence but you have not proven it to be a hoax . The files have been opened on the original photo and it has been shown that nothing has been added . LAL go back and ask dark if this is not true and stop slandering my good name . And one more thing LAL I did not try and enter the mabrc with another sn that name was shared by me and dark . Yes stumpknocker is also Dark . So like ive said get your facts straight before you come after me . I will not explain the reasons for why we did this that is up to dark to explain that to you . Feel pretty stupid now dont you ? Keep trying folks you will stumble on the truth and when you do it will knock your socks off if I remember right that is Darks exact words when he saw the photo the first time . Its very simple read the file of the original that Dark has posted if you cant read them then keep your mouths shut your just makeing your selfs look as stupid as LAL . Nothing has been added or taken away the files are right in front of your face smarten up and just read it . Somebody said your just diging a deeper hole for your self no thats not the case I have crawled out of the hole and now I am filling it with your programed minds .

You have been asked a number of times to keep your tone civil. Calling people "stupid" and threatening legal action are not civil.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

1) for the love of god, learn how to use paragraphs, your posts are barely readable.

2)If you had the audacity to take this to court I would be there soley for the free entertainment. The smart money would be on the Tee shirt concession.

 

[AudioFreak]

As I have shown and freak has admitted, door number two is correct. That does not discount the possibility of also being delusional but I don't think so.

For the deluded, the cars aren't always connected on the thought train.

 

[kitakaze]

I'm going to go ahead and borrow Marcus' assessment of The Burg's invisible thread and apply it to this one:

This whole thread is straight out of the woo handbook:

1) State your claims. No evidence required, your word should be enough.

2) If challenged, require your opponents to prove a negative.

3) In the event of inconvenient evidence, move the goalposts, or if necessary, deny or ignore the evidence.

4) If all else fails, pull out the ad homs, it is necessary to salvage as much of your dignity as possible.

 

[mikeyx]

Just another attemt at slander kit you have not proven this to be anything other then what I said it is . Its not only me your trying to slander its John and cliff you have gone a little to far with your acusations . You have been proven worng so just keep runing your mouth it will only be worse for you in the end .

so now you sink to just threats? Noone slandered you because the damage is self inflicted, you made a choice to come here and start this, suck it up and come clean.

 

[mikeyx]

Where the hell are you coming up with this stuff? Every person who has looked at it has reached the same conclusion. There have now been two, for all intents and purposes, experts who who have posted unbiased analysis of your photos and they both clearly agree that it's not real.

Stop saying nothing has been proven. Something has been proven; that your photo was altered to make it look like Bigfoot is there. End of story.

The experts have concluded it's not a Bigfoot. The amateurs have concluded it's not a Bigfoot. The public observers have all concluded it's not a Bigfoot. Every single attempt to recreate your "enhanced" version shows that your version contains information that was simply not present in the original. How do you account for this?

BTW, slander is something that is said (i.e. spoken). You're threatening the wrong charge. Additionally, it's only illegal if it's untrue. There isn't a court in the world that would believe nobody faked your picture. Additionally, who cares what accusations some people on a web forum threw at a guy posting a fake Bigfoot picture?

regarding the slander, ya beat me to it, it has to be untrue and this entire thread would sink your claims with little or less effort.

 

[Atomicmutant]

Thirty five pages of message board fun! I wanted to chime in and say I've been enjoying all the posts. After reading the whole mess from afar, here's where I think we're at.

CreekFreak, YES, you have seen Bigfoot, and YES you have proof. Unfortunately for now, you have been unable to convince anyone here or on the MABRC.

That's OK.

Once you have finished your work, and are appearing on Nightline, and Larry King, etc., please do us all a favor, and look into the camera and say "To all of you at the JREF and the MABRC, I TOLD YOU SO". Please do so with a wink and a nod. And go ahead and remind us all that you are now wealthy because you stuck to your guns.

I'm sure we will all be kicking ourselves then.

But until then, we remain unconvinced. At least I do, and I can't see a single other person here who is, either.

That's what it boils down to.

I'm sure it's frustrating to you to be the only one who truly gets it. Think on this: until you have shown the rest of the world incontrovertable proof, your legacy will expire with you. I'm certain you don't want that. So go for it, and we'll all wait for the headlines to come down from Reuters.

Until then, perhaps it's best for your research that you keep off the message boards, hunker down, and finish your important research. You're not making any new discoveries on here, that's for sure! We're just a distraction from the real work. So, leave us. We'll remember you, be assured. And we'll watch the news for the big revelation, sure to come. Best of luck to you!

 

[Creekfreak]

I told you kit john is the person that enhanced it he is not a bigfoot expert and never claimed to be hes a photo expert . Is that so hard to understand ? Dark was my bigfoot expert is that so hard to understand ? John will verify if I ask him to but at this time I have not asked him . why should I ask him this forum has not proven in any way shape or form that he has added anything to this photo to make it look like a bigfoot . I dont think you want to go up aganst John hes what you would call a big gun . You wouldent like it if he came here he would make you all look like fools all the way across the country .

 

[Apology]

PetersCreek's analysis is accurate and thorough. I could not have done half as good a job myself (which is why I don't call myself an expert, of course).

Creekfreak, there is no Bigfoot in those photos. Calling PetersCreek a liar because he uses photoshop for work is just silly. If he didn't use photoshop for work, you would deny that he was an expert. Since he does, and you disagree with him, now he's photoshopped the Bigfoots out of your picture. All photo experts MUST have a working knowledge of photoshop or they CANNOT call themselves experts.

Can you see now how only the experts that agree with you are really going to be experts in your eyes? You're determined to hold on to this fantasy, and no amount of experts telling you otherwise will ever convince you. That's why people have questions about your mental health here, and whether or not you're delusional.

I don't think John Russo is your friend, Creek. I think John Russo photoshopped in those Bigfoots so he could laugh when you got all excited. I think it was a terrible, mean trick, and it went too far. I beg you to link John Russo to this thread so he can explain his part in the production of this photo. If he has any sort of heart he'll probably confess to playing a prank on you, and say how he didn't mean for it to get this out of control. If it's not John Russo, it's another one of your friends who handled the photos.

Almost everyone plays practical jokes on their friends from time to time. My mom convinced us that Frosty helped Santa deliver presents at Christmas and used to leave marshmallows in the toilet ("Snowman poop") to convince us. It was meant to be a harmless joke. However, my brother and I didn't go to the neighbors saying "Frosty is real! I have his poop!" so there was no harm done. Do you see how this happens?

Again, I'd like to thank PetersCreek for his most thorough and accurate analysis of the photos.

 

[AudioFreak]

regarding the slander, ya beat me to it, it has to be untrue and this entire thread would sink your claims with little or less effort.

As well, this would fall under libel, not slander. Again, the statements would have to be false for it to qualify. I see no evidence to the contrary.

 

[Locknar]

From here on out none of my research that I am doing and none of my recent findings will ever be disclosed to any of them again . Knowlage is power my freind I know something they dont so I will allways have the upper hand .

Is that a promise? Deal!!!

In that case, as you've failed to convince anyone of your "claims" with your current body of "evidence"....and you will not post any new/recent findings (as you note above) what do you hope to accomplish here?

 

[Atomicmutant]

It's easy to get John Russo's email address off the net.

Has anyone here sent him a polite, gentle e-mail informing him of this thread?

Just wondering. It doesn't have to be CreekFreak that does it.

 

[Creekfreak]

I hope to clear my name lock I dont want to die with people thinking I am some kind of crack pot .

 

[Locknar]

I beg you to link John Russo to this thread so he can explain his part in the production of this photo.

I've contacted Russo and done just this; we'll see what happens.