bigfoot is real I have the proof

[Locknar]

Mikeyx - Your criticism of DK in this case seems unduly harsh. I was all set to type something up, but then see that Correa Neto has done a great job of it in post #737 (much better then I would have done).

 

[LTC8K6]

I think the perspective is compressed due to the telephoto lens and the copter is fairly far beyond the trees and the bigfeets.

This would also mean that even if the bigfeets are there, they are not in front of the helicopter at all, and the pilots cannot see them as readily as the picture makes it seem.

The picture is misleading with regard to perpsective and depth due to the telephoto lens, imo.

The creatures in the photo, if real, are in fact nowhere near the helicopter at all. The helicopter is actually well behind them over the middle of a body of water. The body of water is obscured by the vegetation. There is nothing preventing the creatures, if real, from running away from the helicopter, since it is not blocking their path at all.

All imo of course.

 

[tsig]

Trying to teach them how to use toilet paper would be far beyond the scope of this project and there would still remain the question of if they are even able to learn to use such a product. I thought of perhaps tranquilizing them and giving them a good hindquarter shaving but this would only be a temporary solution. And the idea isn't to eliminate the dingleberries that plague Bigfeets, but just to allow them to sit on couches, lawn chairs and the like without leaving leaving leaving something behind.

It may also turn out this only redistributes the dingleberries to the ankles, but I think that's a worthy sacrifice to protect Floridian upholstery.



I don't think simply providing the pants will be enough. Even if the Bigfeets attempt to don them, there's no guaranteeing that they will realize pants are for the legs. I think the only humane way to accomplish the task is to hunt them down and forcibly apply the pants.

Good call on the corduroy, however; that would surely be cruel for such a silent but deadly creature. Perhaps cargo pants would be a good idea, providing they understand about pockets? But I think we're getting ahead of ourselves anyway. An appropriations committee can be formed once we have an idea of how much funding we will be receiving.

Maybe we could get the fundies on line with this. Imagine, naked primates roaming loose.

Think of the children!

 

[mikeyx]

Mikeyx - Your criticism of DK in this case seems unduly harsh. I was all set to type something up, but then see that Correa Neto has done a great job of it in post #737 (much better then I would have done).

And I partially backed off, they are not nessicarily endorsing what REALLY seems like a scam, but they gave it a place to live and in my opinion they should have demended a better photo at least...still poor judgement in my opinion

 

[Creekfreak]

I am back Ive been in bed sence my last post I am still feeling weak but I am better in case anyone cares . No Dark has never said this is a hoax as someone has pointed out he has just stated that he has not been able to make a statement one way or another becouse he has not been able to see the original . now there are at least 2 on the mabrc that say its fake LAL is one of them and she is a member of this site so I dont feel her opinion holds any water in this matter . she has not seen the original so she cannot make any statements ether she has jumped the gun I would expect more from her . As soon as I can get a first generation copy made from the sd card I will send it to Dark . Untell then no one can say that this is a hoax or a scam . Your just makeing fools out of yourselfs by saying this when you dont have any proof that it is . I say this is a picture of some bigfoots or bigfeets I came here to debate it but no one has proven it is not . If it is not bigfeets then what are they ? You can clearly see there are creatues in this photo they are not bears . Granted I have not talked to the pilots to ask them if they saw it or not . It is my opinion though that they did see them how could they have missed something so large ? I think it may be time to put the pressure on them not me they where a lot closer then I was . Then we come to the question will they lie or tell the truth ? I do think when fox picks up on this they will have to say something for sure it will be intresting to see what they do say . I emailed there boss and I have posted those for all to see so there has been an effort made by me to contact them about this . your welcomed to email them yourselfs or call them its out in the open now so its not a big secret anymore . Is there a cover up by the state ? I say there is why would they not contact me back ? Or press charges for that matter ?

 

[LTC8K6]

Creek, LAL is not a skeptic with regards to bigfoot. She supports the idea of bigfoot.

 

[J. Arthur Hastur]

But what about the dingleberries? That would put me off.

Who would even think about bigfoot dingleberries? That's not normal.

 

[darkwing]

Neither dark or the mabrc seem worth much if they're defending a scam, and a crappy scam at that like yours

nevermind, others already said it for me

 

[AudioFreak]

You didn't come here to debate. You came here to show proof. So put up or shut up. There is no cover up by the state. As far as they're concerned you're just some mook with a camera and a fantasy. They wouldn't contact you back because most people don't care one iota about Bigfoot. What charges would they press? Last time I checked you couldn't arrest someone for bad grammar.

 

[Drewbot]

And I partially backed off, they are not nessicarily endorsing what REALLY seems like a scam, but they gave it a place to live and in my opinion they should have demended a better photo at least...still poor judgement in my opinion

The had it taken down, until Creekfreak, on this thread, asked them to put it back up for us(JREF) to look at. That is the only reason MABRC gave the photo a home.

 

[Locknar]

As soon as I can get a first generation copy made from the sd card I will send it to Dark . Untell then no one can say that this is a hoax or a scam . Your just makeing fools out of yourselfs by saying this when you dont have any proof that it is .

Based on the information available, all you have thus far is shown proof/documentation of a fire mid-April '07.

The low-res image hosted on MABRC has tell-tail signs of significant editing. While those could be compression artifacts, I do not think they are. Of course, comparisson to the original would be the only way to tell for sure...but you have tainted that since you will not/can not account for its history.

I say this is a picture of some bigfoots or bigfeets I came here to debate it but no one has proven it is not .

It is, in fact, a picture of a helicopter in a field with some type of object(s) on the right side. Anything beyond that is speculation on your part which you have not supported with any evidence/proof. On the other hand, there is evidence (though not conclusive) that suggests the picture has been significantly edited.

Again, the only way to clarify this would be to provide the original. However, as noted before that is now tainted as you can not/will not account for its history.

If it is not bigfeets then what are they ? You can clearly see there are creatues in this photo they are not bears .

Speculation. They could be bears, cut/pasted images from "King Kong" or "Planet of the Apes", or any of 100s of other possibilities.

your welcomed to email them yourselfs or call them its out in the open now so its not a big secret anymore . Is there a cover up by the state ? I say there is why would they not contact me back ? Or press charges for that matter ?

You've cut/pasted somthing you claim was e-mail you've sent, but I'll concede that as fact. That said...to be honest, your e-mails were so poorly written I have little doubt they were simply discarded.

There are many books on not only the scientific method (which you really need) as well as business writting; these would be available for free at your local library.

Looking over your claims...we have from you:
- Questionable date when this event took place (you've called that into question yourself)
- A low-res pic with obvious cut/past artifacts
- No high-res original; no history of the original
- No names of witnesses
- No names of the "experts" you've claimed have analyzed the original
- No location as to where this event took place
- Different versions of who did the editing (male/female)
- Variations in your story (from MABRC and here)

And the list continues. The only thing that has been established is there was a fire in the area mid-April '07.

The ball is your court so far as clearing all these issues up.

 

[LTC8K6]

Look at the picture again, folks. The helicopter is far behind the vegetation and the so called bigfeets. No way is the copter going to be down among those trees and vegetation nor would it be anywhere near them. They are nearly tall enough to clip a rotor blade. They are even taller than the "bigfeets".

Imo, this is a thin line of scrub trees near the bank of a body of water. The helicopter is out over the body of water filling it's bucket. The helicopter is well beyond the trees and the "bigfeets" in the foreground. The pilots are not in a position to see creekfreak's creatures, even if they are actually standing there among the trees, without looking to their right and behind them.

 

[darkwing]

And I partially backed off, they are not nessicarily endorsing what REALLY seems like a scam, but they gave it a place to live and in my opinion they should have demended a better photo at least...still poor judgement in my opinion

You really need to go read this whole thread again, we have requested a better photo, along with lots of other information that was supplied to us.

The reason I posted it, was because everyone wanted to look at it, and Creek trusted me to post it for him. The only poor judgement here, is that you keep making statements and comments without knowing or attempting to read all the facts.

Once again, read what was said, then you can make a judgement.

My neutrality on this is being questioned, and quite frankly, that should not even be a consideration in this discussion. I gave you the opportunity to see the picture that Creek was talking about, that's all. No endorsement of the picture, and there are the posts of MABRC members who say it's hoaxed on the MABRC Forum. That alone should say enough for you where the MABRC stands.

 

[Creekfreak]

Creek, LAL is not a skeptic with regards to bigfoot. She supports the idea of bigfoot.
Then she should look at the evidence before she makes statements like she has . Like Ive said she has not seen the original neither have any of you so you can not say this is fake . I say I have the proof prove that I dont its pretty simple . No one here or at the mabrc has proven anything all you have done is state your opinons . I stand by my word there has been nothing added to this photo what you see is what is in the photo that was taken . The colors have been brightened so you can see the figures in it better that is all . I will say again you are just makeing fools out of yourselfs by saying it is fake . why dont you get the experts to take a look at it ? you wont becouse you are so sure of yourselfs that you cant stand to be proven worng . I challange you to prove this to be a fake you have not and you will not becouse it is real .

 

[vidiviciveni]

Taken from another thread, quote from Bigfoot = Yeh! Or Neh! #16 by Creekfreak

Well at least you know there aren't any sharks n it funny you should say that . One day I thought there was a shark in my back yard ! A long time ago i would come up here every day after work to relax and to be by myself . well i had a place in the creek where i had a chair i could sit in and the water came up around my chest area . I had the trees pulled down and woven together for shade beside a small water fall . I had a floting table i could put my drink on . One day I was siting there and all of a sudden I saw this big fin start trashing the top of the water about 30 feet down the creek from me . Well my first thoughts where its a damm shark but them I thought theres no way a shark could be that far from the salt water . I jumped my ass out of the water fast ! just in time to see a 6 foot aligator gar swim by . I was there by myself but I still looked around to make sure nobody saw me jump out of the water so fast I would not have lived that down .the son of a bitch harshed my zen man .

I'm afraid that from this woefull display of mistaken identity we must assume that Creekfreak neads glasses also.

 

[LTC8K6]

Darkwing, what do you think is shown in creekfreak's photo with regard to bigfoot?

Question withdrawn since Darkwing has not seen the photo either, just the low res crop.

 

[Locknar]

I stand by my word there has been nothing added to this photo what you see is what is in the photo that was taken . The colors have been brightened so you can see the figures in it better that is all . I will say again you are just makeing fools out of yourselfs by saying it is fake . why dont you get the experts to take a look at it ?

Actually, I am an expert. I have looked at it and made comment as appropriate. There are obvious cut/paste artifacts in the low-res version, which are unlikely to have been caused by compression.

I challange you to prove this to be a fake you have not and you will not becouse it is real .

All you have to do is make the original available.

 

[LTC8K6]

I challange you to prove this to be a fake you have not and you will not becouse it is real .

Let's see the photos then. You can't keep challenging people without giving them anything to work with. You sound even more ridiculous than usual.

I admit that I can't prove that you did not take a photo of bigfoot because you will not let me see the photo of bigfoot. No, the photo we have seen is not what I mean.

 

[Creekfreak]

Dark you seem to forget when this was posted in the members section of the mabrc they where complementing me . But then they turned on me becouse I went to the state and tryed to sale it . So really what they are saying now does not count they have not seen the original as I have stated before so everything is moot as of now . Untell you have seen the original then what they say means nothing .

 

[Locknar]

My neutrality on this is being questioned, and quite frankly, that should not even be a consideration in this discussion. I gave you the opportunity to see the picture that Creek was talking about, that's all. No endorsement of the picture, and there are the posts of MABRC members who say it's hoaxed on the MABRC Forum. That alone should say enough for you where the MABRC stands.

Obviously there is bound to be "distrust", to some degree, between the "skeptic" and "Bigfoot" camps; that is the price of applying sterotypes.

For what it is worth, I think DK has been above board specific to this issue. He/MABRC has been very clear they make no endorsement of Creeks claims...and have called into question some of the same aspects "we" (ie. skeptics) have. As DK notes, and I agree, he has been exceedingly neutral...simply providing information "as is".