bigfoot is real I have the proof

[Normal Dude]

creekfreak if you want to put the question of photoshopping down to bed once and for all, you to supply the original photograph which was most likely in .bmp format, as well as whatever camera data file came with it. I know there are plenty of people here willing to host it for you if you need to.

 

[RayG]

How could you possibly miss the two bigfoot that are attempting to pull the chopper to the ground? (an additional third bf has shape shifted into a tree)

RayG

 

[spc476]

I'd still like to hear from SPC how he arrived at the coordinates he/she provided.

Since you asked.

Creekfreak gave his real name in a few posts. He also mentioned being in the Panhandle of Florida. This, coupled with this bit of information he provided:

9. On way date and at what location was this fire? The date is stamped on the pictures I would have to look at them to give you exact date . I am bad with dates sorry . The fire was about a mile from here it is called wettapo creek hence the name creekfreak in case any of you are wondering where that name came from . I live on the same creek on 7 acres of land my father bought about 35 years ago . It is a remote area lots of wilderness

gave me everything I needed to locate the area where the picture was taken.

First, off to Google Maps (maps.google.com) to search for "Wettapo Creek, Florida". From there, I found out it's "Wetappo Creek", and shows it to be just east of Tyndall AFB. But the area Google maps shows doesn't look to be very "creek-like" territory. So I did a Google search on "Wetappo Creek, Florida", got a few topographical maps that seemed more likely.

I could then see that Wewahitchka is the closest town to the area. I then went to the "Wewahitchka, Florida" entry of Wikipedia to get the county, which is Gulf County, Florida. Armed with that information, I was able to search for "Gulf County Florida Property Appraiser". That took me to the actual Gulf County Property Appraiser website, where I could do a name based search on property records.

Using Creekfreak's last name, I found two pieces of property (which looked to be owned by the same person). The first result was to a 6.67 acre piece of land close to where the topographical maps located Watappo Creek. Given the information given, I concluded this is where Creekfreak lives and thus the photograph was taken about a mile from this point.

That's pretty much it.

 

[madurobob]

Bingo - I was in the process of doing the same thing when you posted the coordinates. Online property records are pretty powerful tools for stalkers....

 

[Locknar]

I'm not a camera buff so I could be wrong, but does anyone actually believe that time was stamped by the camera and not just written in with paint at the same time as the "watermark"?

Without knowing the camera type it is hard to say for sure....though, no. It looks like it was photoshoped in.

Of course now he is stuck between a rock and hard place (to coin a phrase); when I first asked about the date, he could not remember but said "it is on the photo."

Now that nobody can find evidence of a fire, he's called into question the date of the photo making it all but impossible to verify any part of his claim.

Creek....these are not the actions of a real researcher. Can you explain?

 

[Locknar]

Since you asked.

Creekfreak gave his real name in a few posts. He also mentioned being in the Panhandle of Florida. This, coupled with this bit of information he provided:

<snip>

That's pretty much it.

Nicely done.

 

[sthomson]

Forget about bigfeet - Creekfreak seems to have a swamp-monster problem on his hands!

There are a few more of these wiley creatures directly to the left of the cropped section. Quick, call a swamp monster researcher!

 

[Creekfreak]

There was fire and you can bet your ass there is some kind record of it somewhere there are probley 500 people that live in the genaral area and i am pretty sure they all knew about it . If not they are liveing under a rock .i dont think the state would bring out the choppers and not add up the bill so they could charge the person that started it . And of course all the fire deptments in the area where there too . Do you want me to go to every firefighter that was there and get there sworn statement that there was a fire ? I can do it if need be but your just going to have to take my word there was a fire and this is the out come of it . I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything . The photo is real get the experts on it . I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine. what i have presented to you is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God with my hand on a bible . Thank you have a good day I am going to check my trail cam and see if I have another photo of a bigfoot what are you going to do today ?

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Creekfreak, many of us have had enough experience of Christianity not to be impressed by your readiness to swear on the Bible.

 

[Normal Dude]

I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything .

Eh? You were the one coming here trying to SELL this photo. You owe a explanation if you are going to be making a profit, something which thankfully will not be happening.

The photo is real get the experts on it . I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine.

EH? It's your photo, your evidence, and your sale. It's your responsibility. All you have to do is supply an original file of the photograph, because the one posted is NOT the original file with the original data. How many times do I have to explain this to you? Why will you not do this?

Thank you have a good day I am going to check my trail cam and see if I have another photo of a bigfoot what are you going to do today ?

I'm going to develop my next weeks lecture on zoology and then head to the lab. You know, real science and research.

Did anyone notice that his spelling suddenly improved?

 

[sthomson]

There was fire and you can bet your ass there is some kind record of it somewhere there are probley 500 people that live in the genaral area and i am pretty sure they all knew about it .

Can you provide evidence of this fire? If they sent out choppers, there should be a news report, but since you haven't provided the DATE of the fire, or even a reliable LOCATION, that makes it difficult for the rest of us to help you verify that this fire existed. Maybe you could ask one of your neighbors what the month and year was that the fire happened, since you say that the date on the picture may be suspect.

I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything . The photo is real get the experts on it . I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine.

The problem is, the picuture you provided doesn't have enough information to verify its veracity. We need the original, unretouched, uncompressed image. You can even go into photoshop and put your watermark on it, if you'd like. If you want help preparing that, I can offer a few minutes time to do that for you. I'm not sure JREF forum members would believe that I'm not complicit at all, but that's the risk we take sometimes.

Thank you have a good day I am going to check my trail cam and see if I have another photo of a bigfoot what are you going to do today ?

Well, I spent 4 hours on something that may make natural-gas forms of energy cheaper and more reliable for end-users, and another 4 hours working on something that could save soldiers and technicians lives while working in areas in danger of chemical contamination. Additionally, I got paid to do so, so now I can go out and buy a nice expensive time-lapse camera, if I so desire.

 

[Creekfreak]

I'm going to develop my next weeks lecture on zoology and then head to the lab. You know, real science and research.

Those poor poor students to bad they dont have a prof that knows what is in the real world . When was the last time you have been in the field to investigate if bigfoot is real or not ? I bet you havent so where is your data zoo man ? no guts no glory Ms fossey would be very disapointed

Fantastic thanks for helping us out . If you do buy a cam I know a good spot to put it Ill split the profits with you on any pics we get !

 

[Normal Dude]

I'm going to develop my next weeks lecture on zoology and then head to the lab. You know, real science and research.

Those poor poor students to bad they dont have a prof that knows what is in the real world . When was the last time you have been in the field to investigate if bigfoot is real or not ? I bet you havent so where is your data zoo man ? no guts no glory Ms fossey would be very disapointed

Fantastic thanks for helping us out . If you do buy a cam I know a good spot to put it Ill split the profits with you on any pics we get !

I'm not a professor.

And you still haven't answered the inquiry for the original file. Quit stalling.

 

[Creekfreak]

And you still haven't answered the inquiry for the original file. Quit stalling
sorry I cant untell I talk to a lawyer . There is the posibility there are other bigfoot in the photo across the creek from these I would be a fool to post the original at this time . Sorry for that last comment when you said zoology that got my blood going . if your not a prof what do you do ? where is your lab and what are you studying ?

 

[DrewD]

There was fire and you can bet your ass there is some kind record of it somewhere there are probley 500 people that live in the genaral area and i am pretty sure they all knew about it . If not they are liveing under a rock .i dont think the state would bring out the choppers and not add up the bill so they could charge the person that started it . And of course all the fire deptments in the area where there too . Do you want me to go to every firefighter that was there and get there sworn statement that there was a fire ? I can do it if need be but your just going to have to take my word there was a fire and this is the out come of it .

We don't need a sworn statement from firefighters. All we need is some sort of documentation that the that the fire occured. It really is not that difficult to find. A simple reference to a newspaper article will do just fine.

I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything . The photo is real get the experts on it .

You were the one that came to the JREF forum claiming to have "proof".

I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine. what i have presented to you is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God with my hand on a bible .

Oh.. well in that case.

 

[Spektator]

And you still haven't answered the inquiry for the original file. Quit stalling
sorry I cant untell I talk to a lawyer . There is the posibility there are other bigfoot in the photo across the creek from these I would be a fool to post the original at this time . (snip)

The lawyer will probably tell you there's nothing to worry about. In the history of American jurisprudence, no American has yet been sued by a bigfoot.

 

[Creekfreak]

One last thing noone has realized is . The helicopter could have been air lifting them out with his bucket . he did leave and not come back for a few minnites but I could still here him close but behind me where there was no fire . Just miles of wilderness . I did fell to tell you I spoted one crossing a dirt road in this area right after we left the first place . I knew they would have to cross a road so we went there next . When we got there I set up my tri pod so I could see down the road . It was a straight shot for about 2 miles at the intersection of some power lines . . With nothing but winderness to my right . At this time I obsearved a very large creature crossing the road at about a half mile . it was on all fours and redish in color . It happened so fast I did not have time to turn the cam on to get a pic . But it did tell me I was right about there path . This will come in handy someday . just another day in a bigfoot researchers life .

 

[Locknar]

There was fire and you can bet your ass there is some kind record of it somewhere there are probley 500 people that live in the genaral area and i am pretty sure they all knew about it .

Note, I've not said there was not....simply that there is no evidence to support the claim. As such, scientifically speaking without proof/documentation, it didn't happen.

If not they are liveing under a rock .i dont think the state would bring out the choppers and not add up the bill so they could charge the person that started it . And of course all the fire deptments in the area where there too . Do you want me to go to every firefighter that was there and get there sworn statement that there was a fire ? I can do it if need be but your just going to have to take my word there was a fire and this is the out come of it .

I don't need or want sworn statements; simply any documentation that supports the claim you've made about a major fire on April 16, 2007. There must be on-line newspapers in your area, TV station web pages, etc. that would mention this event.

Scientifically speaking, your word alone is not good enough; you need supporting documentation.

I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything .

True enough, though note in your OP you were the one that made the bold claim about having proof. Surly you understood, as part of the scientific process, this would open you to questions.

If this question/answer process is to much effort, simply withdraw the claims. Scientifically speaking it is not about "defending", it is about establishing documented fact...nothing personal, nothing more.

The photo is real get the experts on it . I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine.

This is a moot issue, on at least two counts. Picture edit "history" can be removed/deleted via any number of means. The picture on the MABRC site has no edit history, it is a flat "as is" file. Secondly, to make any comparison someone would need the unedited original, which you are unwilling to provide.

I'd have to ask...why? Surly you can crop the photo, similar to the MABRC picture, but a bit smaller to cut out Shinny Eyes from the left shoulder on? This would allow for analysis between the two pictures, in terms of explaining other artifacts that appear in the photo on MABRC...and would protect your interests as the cropped originial would not contain any actual Bigfoot image.

what i have presented to you is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God with my hand on a bible .

Truth is a matter of individual perception; facts stand on their own merit.

 

[mikeyx]

for giggles i emailed CF for a question, how much are you asking for this "evidence"?, this is what he responded with:

"As much as I can get of course ! I was thinking of a deal to sale the rights for one year for some up front money then half of what ever it makes in that year . Then give that person the option of the same deal on any future photos I am sure I will be able to get with the right equipment . Make me an offer I cant refuse and Ill be right out with the sd card in hand to your location . I would need traval expences of course 100 bucks a week doesent go far . And of course this is just a deal I had in mind if the money is right I will sale it out right ."

in it fo the money.........

 

[Babylon Sister]

There was fire and you can bet your ass there is some kind record of it somewhere there are probley 500 people that live in the genaral area and i am pretty sure they all knew about it . If not they are liveing under a rock .i dont think the state would bring out the choppers and not add up the bill so they could charge the person that started it . And of course all the fire deptments in the area where there too . Do you want me to go to every firefighter that was there and get there sworn statement that there was a fire ? I can do it if need be but your just going to have to take my word there was a fire and this is the out come of it . I am geting tired of defending myself I really dont owe you people any explanation for anything . The photo is real get the experts on it . I cant help it you are not versed in photoshop enough to find the history thats your problem not mine. what i have presented to you is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God with my hand on a bible . Thank you have a good day I am going to check my trail cam and see if I have another photo of a bigfoot what are you going to do today ?

I found the following article from the Panama City News-Herald that appears to show that CF was right about the fires in the Bay/Gulf County area that correspond to the date of his photo of the helicopter.

http://www.newsherald.com/headlines/article.display.php?a=1301

I also found this map showing a (very) approximate location for Dead Lake State Rec Area http://funandsun.com/parks/DeadLakes/deadlakes.html

and this (see the small blue map about a third of the way down on the left) that appears to show a fire in the (very) approximately location as the above http://stormvideographer.com/blog/2007/05/12/florida-georgia-wildfires-smoke-over-takes-florida/

This does not mean I believe the Bigfoot part of his story.

ETA: I based this on the info I got from CF's rambling posts. I could easily have gotten location info wrong. There's not much info and it's pretty deeply buried.