William Parcher
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Exactly how unlikely are unidentified species in Kentucky? Extreme, you say? How extreme, Chris?
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William Parcher
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Who was the first to debunk the first freezer Bigfoot?
Gilbert Syndrome
Philosopher
You claimed on here that you knew enough to be able to spot a hoax from the "real thing," you even claimed that you knew all about the feet of Bigfoot and how they work, all because you "saw" one once. But now you're saying that you wouldn't know for certain if Bigfoot was able to change colour or not. You DO claim to know the unknowable.
Gilbert Syndrome
Philosopher
"Bigfoot is a great ape as yet untyped with no supernatural or paranormal abilities." - Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"I've never seen a mermaid and I'm not interested in looking for one as I'm skeptical such a creature ever existed."-
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"As it stands now, hoaxers do not have enough correct info on these creatures to make a convincing track or suit and I prefer to keep it that way. It makes things much easier for me to continue to be able to identify a fake track or a fake suit at a glance."-
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Anyone can make a set of stompers, but they don't know how the Bigfoot track looks exactly, or how the foot moves/works when they walk/run/stand still." -
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Anyone could throw a hairy suit together but they don't know the exact facial features to put with it." -
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Unfortunately, I'm not a billionaire like Bill Gates, so I'm unable to bear the cost of such an operation."
"I don't want money or media attention."
There really is no end to your contradictions, Chris.
"I've never seen a mermaid and I'm not interested in looking for one as I'm skeptical such a creature ever existed."-
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"As it stands now, hoaxers do not have enough correct info on these creatures to make a convincing track or suit and I prefer to keep it that way. It makes things much easier for me to continue to be able to identify a fake track or a fake suit at a glance."-
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Anyone can make a set of stompers, but they don't know how the Bigfoot track looks exactly, or how the foot moves/works when they walk/run/stand still." -
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Anyone could throw a hairy suit together but they don't know the exact facial features to put with it." -
Unlike alot of opinions here, I will not claim to know the unknowable.
"Unfortunately, I'm not a billionaire like Bill Gates, so I'm unable to bear the cost of such an operation."
"I don't want money or media attention."
There really is no end to your contradictions, Chris.
Gilbert Syndrome
Philosopher
But Bigfoot doesn't live in the wild, he practically lives around every corner, every fork in the road, near truck-stops, near parking lots, rooting through dumpsters, he lives in the scraggly green-belt behind the homes of suburban families, logging roads, campsites... He's everywhere we are.
Another instance where Chris was short of the mark. One minute Bigfoot is out in the wilderness, where man can't reach, the next...he's tossing Good 'n' Plenty at a bunch of fellas who're out trying to find him. Somehow, I doubt the elusive Solid Snake of Metal Gear fame would do that kind of crap.
The Shrike
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Um, no. The "where" is very much regarded. That something exists at all might be relevant in the case of something like bigfoot but where it's reported is next in line.
Unless someone is missing their pet jaguar then no one in Kentucky is seeing jaguars running around there.
There's a rather important discipline in the life sciences called biogeography that concerns itself with the spatially explicit distributions of organisms. If you think people don't take such things seriously then you've obviously never tried to get an extralimital record of something accepted by a records committee without a photo.
The Shrike
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How is that impressive? Parcher made the same announcement here with far less to go on. A 5 year-old could've touched the foot and figured out it was rubber.
The amount of just absolute ignorance regarding ecological systems is simply amazing.
Animals, be it simply a jaguar or figboot, can't exist in a vacuum. They are parts of vibrant, complex systems.
An animal like figboot would leave a massive, obvious ecological footprint, no pun.
Animals, be it simply a jaguar or figboot, can't exist in a vacuum. They are parts of vibrant, complex systems.
An animal like figboot would leave a massive, obvious ecological footprint, no pun.
The Shrike
Philosopher
I get this all the time from inexperienced nature observers. People will contact me absolutely convinced that they've seen something extraordinary, usually a hawk, owl, or crow. The unusual thing they claim will be along the lines of "It looked like a crow but it was HUUUUGE!" "I mean this thing was HUUUUGE!"
I had one of these last week in which a guy told me about this hawk he had seen on the ground with a squirrel it had killed. The guy in relating the story when on an on about how "huge" this hawk was, even putting his hand near his waist to show about how tall it was. Fortunately, he had a photo that he sent me later that day. It was an immature Red-tailed Hawk that maybe if it was really stretching could've made it to knee-high.
This is how black housecats become black panthers, whether in Kentucky, Nottingham, or wherever else people claim to see them but the stories never pan out. Just think how many times we have seen photos of housecats that were claimed to be something else. Now imagine how many times state wildlife officials have heard such claims . . .
ChrisBFRPKY
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Parcher made the same announcement here without physically examining the evidence. Steve made the announcement to Fox News after a hands on investigation of the evidence.
Both were right, one was based on a visual comparison guess, the other based on physical examination of the evidence. Sorry if "hands on" debunking isn't impressive to you, it is to me. It demonstrates the willingness to go the extra mile. Chris B.
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I guess we differ in opinion on the definition of a cryptid. On a positive note after they finish the DNA study, it will be exciting to find out where this latest KY cat really came from. Chris B.
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Thanks for memory lane. Based on my own observations/research there are no contradictions to any of my statements listed. Keep them in mind and you'll see. Chris B.
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I guess you don't have anything to support the color change theory. Oh well.
I know how their feet look and how they walk/run/stand based on the study of a trackway from a personal sighting. Not just by "seeing" the creature, but by physically studying the trackway it left behind afterwards. Yes, I do claim that.
But as far as whether they change color with the season, I have no idea. I doubt it, but that's just a feeling not based on physical evidence. I could be wrong.
Chris B.
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You da man Parcher. Excellent work BTW. We do agree on some things, busting hoaxes for one.
Now William, keeping in mind I was referring to black cats, I think it more likely a black jag is seen now and again in the hills of KY, rather than some new type of mystery cat that's never been typed before.
The only thing a little problematic with the melanistic jag out of place theory is that I haven't heard or read of anyone to report a roar, only screams........Interesting bit that. But a black Cougar? I should live so long. Chris B.
Gilbert Syndrome
Philosopher
I'm sorry, the colour change theory? Something something pink elephants?
I guess you don't have anything to support any of your theories, oh well...what's new?
So, you know all about the feet of an entire undocumented species of "great ape," simply by studying the prints that ONE...erm..."subject" left behind? Makes sense, afterall, that's how SyFy-Science is done.
No worries regarding memory lane, or in your case, "Selective Memory Lane." The fact that you don't see anything contradictory within your many ramblings on here only goes to prove my point that you're either a really "special" guy or a really hammy actor.
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LTC8K6
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Ah but you weren't hawking a book about the debunking at $19.99 a pop...
https://www.createspace.com/3686448
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Though according to footer scripture, you can't see anything you're not looking for.
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So, taking count now, we have:
Sasquatches
Wolves
Mountain Lions
Melanistic Jaguars
Possibly Melanistic Mountain Lions
...all roaming the wood lots of Kentucky. This is getting to the level of the giant, tail-hopping dragonfly thread. Are we missing any or are there other alpha predators we need to add? Surely there are a few Nile Crocs in the Ohio, right? Probably albino ones.
Sasquatches
Wolves
Mountain Lions
Melanistic Jaguars
Possibly Melanistic Mountain Lions
...all roaming the wood lots of Kentucky. This is getting to the level of the giant, tail-hopping dragonfly thread. Are we missing any or are there other alpha predators we need to add? Surely there are a few Nile Crocs in the Ohio, right? Probably albino ones.
It wasn't meant to be impressive to anyone but footers, who are easily impressed anyway.
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LTC8K6
Penultimate Amazing
No wonder he packs large...
It's interesting that he thinks big black cats are in his woods, but when he sees a motionless dark blob in the woods, he identifies it as bigfoot.
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