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we as biologists find that reference of source to be a bit "sophmoric". us big kahunas in the business prefer:
anal aperture
anal oriface
sphincter

not neccisarily in that order.

we do also reserve the infamous "a**H**le to be used as a human descriptor term!

Learn something new every day.
 
we as biologists find that reference of source to be a bit "sophmoric". us big kahunas in the business prefer:
anal aperture
anal oriface
sphincter

not neccisarily in that order.

we do also reserve the infamous "a**H**le to be used as a human descriptor term!

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
 
David Paulides thinks they are deaf by our standards but thinks they compensate for that in some way, at least in the PNW. I don't know what the point of the screaming/or possible language abilities could be about with that supposition floating around out there.

It's just more contradictory nonsense for something people dreamed up and commonly misidentify the known for, most of what I hear from recordings sounds like foxes. Occassionally it will sound human, like in the Sierra Sounds, and most likely is human in that case.

All kinds of animals can make all kinds of sounds. Even a common domesticated cat can sound eery when making noise during heat.

As with most Bigfoot issues, things are confusing as related to calls and howls. The idea of the Bigfoot howl is probably derived from the fact that some monkeys do have a shrieking cry or howl. Many folks, too many, do not know that monkeys and apes are not the same thing. Somewhere and time, it was decided that The Great North American Ape sounded and behaved like a monkey, like a howler monkey basically.

Enter in the Primal Forest People contingency, and now we have Bigfoot sounding vaguely oriental, as opposed to occidental, and/or like human mutes.

What is frustrating, as usual, is the fact that this particular form of "evidence." like all Bigfoot evidence, is in the hands of enthusiasts to be used in defence of advocacy. Recordings should be analysed by impartial experts to rule out any possible explanations not related to giant human/apes. And these experts should not be in the employ of some sensationalistic TV doc.
 
LOLOL....absolutely, that never happens in the real world though. Doesn't even cross the mind of the person offering the evidence....and then they wonder why no one accepts it.
 
Just cause some of you guys can't understand Samurai Chatter you think it's all a hoax ~ typical skeptic behavior, I am flabbergasted.

The RRS theory that the baby Bigfeets start out mimicking other animals and as their vocal cords develop they gain the ability to speak in the BigFoot native tongue, (POOP) or People Originated Obviously Placed, is right up there with the likes of other well known Bigfoot Bull **** researchers like, Scott Nelsons, Sasquatch Phonetic Alphabet (SPA) or by the more formal denomination, Unclassified Hominid Phonetic Alphabet (UHPA).

Personalty, I like the RRS theory much better, RRS is working on a paper and it should be published some time soon but most likely latter or never at all, as we all know this Bigfoot stuff takes time and promises, ain't like you can just go out and drag a body back in, the build up alone can take years and the intricate story and leaking information can take hours upon hours to think up, but stay tuned for more info as the story goes stale and you are left hanging ~

Tim ~:)
 
A long day scheduled for the 2013 Texas Bigfoot Conference, Saturday, March 16, 2013, at the Fort Worth Convention Center.

Got this from the BFF ~

bipto

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:03 PM
Would love to meet you there! Let me know if you show up.

Note, the schedule has been tweaked. This should be the final, though it's always subject to change.

9:00-9:15 - Intro and welcome
9:15-10:25 - Bill Munns
10:25-11:35 - Kathy Strain
11:35-1:00 - Lunch
1:00-2:10 - Jeff Muldrum
2:10-3:40 - Brian Brown "In the Valley of the Wood Ape - The results of Endurance and Persistance"
3:40-4:00 - Break
4:00-5:30 - Josh Gates
5:30-5:45 Break (set up for panel)
5:45-7:00 Panel
7:00 - Closing remarks

Here is a follow up post that is sure to get a laugh ~

DWA

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:24 PM
All those are gonna be good. Munns alone brings world-class expertise in something skeptics think should be easy to do...but he knows isn't.

Tim ~ :)
 
I'ld go at 4:00 to see Josh Gates and that's about it. I wonder if he is going to talk about Bhoutan? That was one of the best episodes.
 
I don't know looks like a pro Bigfoot love in to me, another stacked deck with their hands out, wonder if they will pass around the offering basket.

Tim :)

From the Wikipedia

In the season premiere of season two, Gates and his team uncovered a series of footprints high in the Himalayas of Nepal while in search of evidence of the Yeti. The prints were cast and analyzed by Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, a leading evolutionary morphologist. Preliminary data suggests that the footprints are anatomically legitimate and do not belong to a known primate.
 
From the DNA thread ~ SmithfromOkla's last post

Fifty plus years nothing of value for evidence and thousands of sighting reports all flawed in one way or another. No body(s) No parts of body (s) no photos no film no hair that con be labeled BF no tracks that can be attributed to BF with any verifyible certainty no no no none.

Bigfoot is not real. It is a product of an unstable segment of society known as footers in a land called Bigfootville.

RRS ask questions, there needs to be a discussion about the past weeks months years, BTW the discussion has been quashed at the BFF.
 
Well I will certainly agree that without any solid evidence this BF thing has taken off into some sort of fantasy and money grab with many people, I don't understand how folks can say they see this thing on a constant basis and not come up with a single good scientific shred of evidence, besides it being a footer that examines it.

Tim :)
 
What I don't get so much is what the regular (most are 'regulars' I'm sure) conference attendees are expecting to 'learn' that they don't already know or have been told 65 times previous? What could Munns or Meldrum possibly tell them that wasn't already beat to death 5-10-15 years ago?! Is it the camaraderie thing - social networking for weirdos - in being amongst those of your same kind? You know, the folks who never 'grew up' because doing so would have forced them to accept certain universal truths they just can't nor want to deal with. "Hey let's all meet up and tell Bigfoot stories and reinforce in each that Bigfoot is real." "Yes, let's." I'd bet a large percentage of these folks also had some 'trouble' giving up the whole Santa Clause thing way back too.

What's becoming really obvious is the uncanny parallels to organized religion. And I know it's been mentioned before that it appears a good majority of 'bleevers' are religious or very religious. The confusing one for me is this undying faith in and devotion to 'the cause' in the face of (mountains of) evidence that points in every other direction except theirs. Pretty much everything we humans understand as 'knowledge' says there is NO Bigfoot. Yet there they are standing up on the hilltop behind the Golden Corral restaurant every second Thursday of the month praising his name and yelling to him to 'come out come out wherever you are' in his own yelling language. That's serious devotion. Or serious mental illness.

And they're not just praising his name, at the same time they're cussing and condemning us closed-minded Bigfoot heretics for the unfathomable crime of trying to get them to see it in a more rational, reasonable, intelligent way. Bad us. They also have an abnormal amount of faith that their so-called 'leaders' are always sending them down the right path. They seem to suffer from an ongoing collective inability to decipher any kind of fact from fiction. If so and so said it and he's a registered Bigfooter, then it has to be true because, why would he lie?

Yes, of course, how could we be so stupid! ;)
 
so, wasn't Ed Smith involved in the Daisy hoax?

In Deep he was.

Tim
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It's greed. The Bigfoot industry sells books and movies (DVD) and speaking fees at conferances.

The economy being as weak as it is, they the footers are going to protect the money tree as long as they can. Take a look at the hoxers thread at the BFF.

Durring Melissa Hovey's and Kathy Strains heroic defense of the MABRC as the discussion turned against them Kathy Strain posted an appeal to the mods that this thread (Hoaxing thread) was not a thread about the MABRC. Which ended the discussion. Why did she do this?

To protect her spot at the MABRC s. conferance next year or this year it about the $$$.

Why Mellissa Hovey's defense of the MABRC?

Let go back to the photo event. I was asked by DW to go and help defend her on the BFF I did so. Why at this point my voice carried some sway according to DW. Check the threads at the BFF. She felt obligated to defend the MABRC.

She says she is not defending them just ppresenting another point of view. A very skewed point of view but who wants to split hairs.

It's still a defense this was pointed out by multiple members and then the discussion was squashed.
 
I received these PM's which are threatening in nature from rockiessquatching. This was a sockpuppet on the BFF who was actually DW. How do I know this? Randy Harrington confided this info to me during one of our conversations. DW did not know this during the time he was PMing me.

This sockpuppet was banned after I reported the PMs, I was told by the mod Art that I could never discuss these or reference them on the BFF. Thus quashing the discussion once again.

These PM's were received after my first post to the Hoaxing thread on the BFF and 48 hours or so before DW final statement.


From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 01:40 PM
Who else is involved in this?

You better start talking.

People know who you are. You are playing a dangerous game.

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Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:23 PM
I can not post here I have been suspended
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From: Ed Smith
Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:24 PM
FYI the have the wrong smith
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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:34 PM
You and I both know that is NOT true.

Who else was involved ?

I suggest you start talking if you want to keep who you are between the people that know and everyone else.

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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:36 PM
We knew it was you the second you deactivated your Facebook page.

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From: EdSmith

Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:51 PM
Ask rayg he is the one who suspended me let me forward his pm
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From: EdSmith
Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:54 PM
RayG, on 12 January 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:
Hi EdSmith,Just letting you know that I have edited a post you made in the Hoaxes, Hoaxers, Frauds and Con-Men in The Bigfoot Community thread. The comments I removed were these:"Bigfoot believers are mentally disturbed. They,the footers need to seek help, and return to their meds."Absolutely unnecessary and inappropriate in accorance with the BFF Rules & Guidelines here:General Guidelines:1. BFF has one rule above all else - Behave like adults!What do we mean by this? Imagine the forum is run by a bunch of people who have invited you over for dinner - we expect sensible, well thought out conversation. If you start getting personal with other diners, you are likely to be ejected. This not your house after all, you don't have a right to sit at someone else's table and disrupt things.2. Do not make things personal. Attack the argument, not the arguer. No name calling. Terms like ‘liars’ and ‘idiots’ are beyond the pale and will not be tolerated here.3. Remember at all times that this forum is here to discuss the subject of Bigfoot, not to discuss other members. If you don't have something nice to say about someone, you might want to consider not saying anything.4. Respect other members and their right to their opinion.and here:BFF Forum Rules:1. Respect For OthersA. All members of these Forums will respect the opinions and presence of other members of the Forums. You are welcome to engage in challenging and spirited debate with other users, but rudeness will not be tolerated. Name-calling, disrespecting other users or throwing personal insults against them will not be tolerated. Flaming another user because of their spelling or word choice will not be tolerated. Personal attacks of any kind are not allowed. Racial/Ethnic or sexist slurs will not be tolerated. Antisocial behavior, in general, will not be tolerated.There was and is no excuse for calling someone mentally disturbed, and as the father of a mentally challenged child, you'll elicit no sympathy or laughter from me. You have earned yourself a +1 warning point, and I strongly urge you review the Rules & Guidelines prior to making any more posts.Have a good day.ETA: Since you were already at +3 warning points, I have suspended your posting rights for 7 days.Raymond
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From: EdSmith

Sent 12 January 2013 - 02:55 PM
I know nothing of ray smith seriously
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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 03:02 PM
Funny. I never mentioned a Ray Smith.

Who else is involved in this?
Who else were you trying to deceive?
What was the purpose?

Tell me here privately and we will just leave it at that. Nobody else will know anything about it.

Come clean and I will convince those that want you plastered all over the BFE to stand down.

I'll give you till the end of the day to think it over.

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From: EdSmith
Sent 12 January 2013 - 04:22 PM
First don't threaten me it doesn't work. When I'm allowed to post I will provide the information.

As to ray smith I had been ask before on the MABRC about a Facebook account by the name ray smith I assumed that was your referance. Is there another Facebook account that I don't know about?
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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 04:55 PM
Time is ticking away.

Don't ask don't tell.

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From: EdSmith

Sent 12 January 2013 - 05:44 PM
I believe that told you threats dot work. The info will be posted when I'm allowed to post again


There will be no further replies to your pm's
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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 05:49 PM
Your choice.

Good luck. I hope the destruction of your personal reputation was worth it.

John Phillips will love knowing it all.

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From: rockiessquatching

Sent 12 January 2013 - 08:25 PM
Sorry. i tried to convince the mob to hold off if they got some info. Good luck.




The "don't ask don't tell" was a reference to my sexual orientation. He used this in the hope that I would give him info so he could prepare his defense.

I'm in a twelve year stable relationship all my family are ok with the fact that I'm gay and my job and career are intact.

This was something that DW And Randy did not know. This shows the lack of integrity and the absence of ethical behavior on DW' s part but there are more examples of this trait to come.

As to the John Phillips remark this is in reference to a libel law suit filed by Phillips against Lee and Harrington.

I can post the link to the court docket if that is allowed by the mods.
 
@Smith There are a lot of great hobbies that don't require fooling others. Also, I thought you were perma banned after the Kitakaze child custody thing.
 
In the valley of the wood ape... fantastic. I'm calling dibs on a movie title.


VALLEY OF THE WOOD APES "You can't run. You can't hide. You can only... die."
 
SmithfromOkla. -I don't think we needed the PM's to know that the MABRC is what it is, HRP originated in that group and his behavior is a perfect example of what you just posted.

The thing of it is, is that PM's are not evidence in themselves, anyone can post a PM and say, " Look what this guy said to me." I've known about Kathy and Melissa's priorities for quite awhile now and so has most of this forum.

You are right though, these are deeply disturbed people, and the fact that they muzzle any discussion on hoaxing shows that the discussion of bigfoot is not the priority, but propogating the myth does seem to be.

Walk away and let the whole thing self destruct, what is a reputation worth in a corrupt society anyway? What do you care what these people think about you personally? The only point in bigfoot discussion here is to bring to light the chicanery and bilking involved. For that, I appreciate your contribution.

Anyway DarkWing, you ain't fooling me. You are Ed Smith and Ed doesn't exist, coming here to post as Ed won't convince those lurking that have an IQ over 100 of anything.
 
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Ask rayg he is the one who suspended me...

Yes, I suspended your ability to post there for 7 days. It's not rocket science -- follow the rules/guidelines like everyone else. Ignore those rules and guidelines, and it's stands to reason you'll not see a favorable outcome.

I promise, you received no 'special' punishment or attention from me, I would have treated any other member exactly the same given the circumstances.

Now, would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

RayG
 
I don't think I'm alone here in saying... WTF IS GOING ON????

This is crazy. Like for realz CRAZY!!!!

It's a make believe ape monster for goodness sake
 
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