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Diogenes said:
As has been mentioned before.. When has ' fear of ridicule ' ever stopped a serious scientist, from pursuing what they believed to be a worthwhile line of inquiry ?

It hasn't stopped Dr. Meldrum. His book should be out sometime next year.
 
LAL said:


I don't see why you think that's funny. One of the purposes of the expedition was to test the thermal equipment to see if it would be of use. It took the batteries down too fast and wasn't as useful as they had hoped. How long does a heat imprint last? There was frost heave in the mud hole on day eight.


I know you are a very intelligent person, but you have blinders on.

A creature ( something ) is walking along. It manages to leave only three thermal prints.

What switched the prints on and off? Does our creature fly?

Maybe it can match it's thermal signature to the surrounding terrain at will..

Why not ?
The same creature seems to have the ability to refrain from leaving it's DNA anywhere..

Anything is possible, untill proved impossible.


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Diogenes said:
His book? :rolleyes:

Yep. He's prepared papers for publication and had a few published, written some great reviews, examined tracks in situ five times, been praised for his methodology.......... It should be quite interesting.

I wouldn't expect you to read it, though.
 
Diogenes said:


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Originally posted by LAL

I don't see why you think that's funny. One of the purposes of the expedition was to test the thermal equipment to see if it would be of use. It took the batteries down too fast and wasn't as useful as they had hoped. How long does a heat imprint last? There was frost heave in the mud hole on day eight.

I know you are a very intelligent person, but you have blinders on.


Same to you, fella.

A creature ( something ) is walking along. It manages to leave only three thermal prints.

What switched the prints on and off? Does our creature fly?

Maybe it can match it's thermal signature to the surrounding terrain at will..

Firstly, they never said the heat prints were left by a Sasquatch. They said it could have been a bear. It could not have been a hooved animal. How long would a heat print last, say, on cold, wet leaves? They found three on rock, which doesn't mean the animal had three legs. It means three heat prints were found on rock. There may have been more that couldn't be detected. That's pretty obvious, isn't it?

Why not ?
The same creature seems to have the ability to refrain from leaving it's DNA anywhere..

And how much testing has there been altogether? 25 hair samples have been found to be "unknown animal" or "unknown primate". Tissue or blood is needed and no one's been able to get that, get it to a lab and a report back yet.

So, how many people are out looking for Sasquatch DNA? Or bones? How would one spot it if camping in a "hot spot" in between downpours? How much would it cost to test every leaf and twig and strand of club moss that might have a shed skin cell on it?

Saying they don't exist because conclusive testable DNA hasn't been found yet is like saying life can't exist anywhere else in the universe because we haven't found it yet.

Remember, most encounters last about twenty seconds. If you suddenly encountered a gigantic creature that isn't supposed to exist, would you have the presense of mind to try to get a blood sample?

Amateurs bring in what they find. The semi-professional Skookum team brought in good evidence. If the hair wasn't contaminated (and contamination can happen on the vials at the manufacturer), it indicated a species very close to our own, closer than Chimpanzees, evidently.

It wasn't hair from elk, coyote, bear, racoon, wood rat, humans.......It was found in the impression. So ruling out all other possibilities, what's left?

Anything is possible, untill proved impossible.

Then it's possible they exist, isn't it?


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OK,LU, let's wrap this up --- there are skeptics, and flesh and bloodies, like you, and supernaturalists, like me. And I am the one who is right, since all the dna in the world, and I collected the first BF blood in 76, simply shows that bigfoot can be a TEMPORARY F&B BEING., that can fade away at any time and always does before any chance of getting caught happens. I have yet to learn what field work, IF ANY, you ever did. So tell us. eb.PS HAVE YOU READ THE LOCALS YET???????????
 
erikbeckjord said:
OK,LU, let's wrap this up --- there are skeptics, and flesh and bloodies, like you, and supernaturalists, like me. And I am the one who is right, since all the dna in the world, and I collected the first BF blood in 76, simply shows that bigfoot can be a TEMPORARY F&B BEING., that can fade away at any time and always does before any chance of getting caught happens. I have yet to learn what field work, IF ANY, you ever did. So tell us. eb.PS HAVE YOU READ THE LOCALS YET???????????

I'm in the middle of two books on this and awaiting a third. I did read your review of Powell's book however. That didn't make me want to read it.

Do tell us how you managed to get BF blood in 1976 and what lab returned this remarkable result.

You still haven't explained why shapeshifters have dermal ridges.
 
LAL said:
You still haven't explained why shapeshifters have dermal ridges.

Why wouldn't shapeshifters have dermal ridges? Shapeshifters can have anything they want. Invisible Pink Unicorns sprout butterfly wings to avoid leaving tracks.

Really, LAL, this guy is too far beneath you to waste time arguing with.
 
Hitch said:
Why wouldn't shapeshifters have dermal ridges? Shapeshifters can have anything they want. Invisible Pink Unicorns sprout butterfly wings to avoid leaving tracks.

Really, LAL, this guy is too far beneath you to waste time arguing with.

We agree on that! Thanks.
 
LAL said:
I'm in the middle of two books on this and awaiting a third. I did read your review of Powell's book however. That didn't make me want to read it.

Do tell us how you managed to get BF blood in 1976 and what lab returned this remarkable result.

You still haven't explained why shapeshifters have dermal ridges.

reply: lab was UC Berkeley, and it was Dr Vincent Sarich, now ret, famous for his chimp and human blood studies. Its on my bigfoot website. Entire report.


Re dermals, if a being has a temporary existance, it can have temporary dermals. BONK! And you still ignore the tracks in snow that disappear for NO GOOD REASON OR EXCUSE. Please drop your superior attitude,. You are not a field investigator,. Just an armchair type. Go back to cleaning bedpans...for mental patients.
 
LAL said:
I'm in the middle of two books on this and awaiting a third. I did read your review of Powell's book however. That didn't make me want to read it.

Do tell us how you managed to get BF blood in 1976 and what lab returned this remarkable result.

You still haven't explained why shapeshifters have dermal ridges.

reply: the books you ordered and are reading are out of date, passe. Part of the old failed paradigm. Read Thom Powell, even if I do not always agree, he is still ahead of the others except for PETER GUTTILLA and me, Next read THE BIGFOOT FILES, by PG... http://www.amazon.com
 
LAL and blood

Note that a spaceman could have blood, and so could a time-traveller. Maybe a shape-shifter also.

;)

PS: you got a website? Ever do anything? Do any research?
 
erikbeckjord said:
reply: lab was UC Berkeley, and it was Dr Vincent Sarich, now ret, famous for his chimp and human blood studies. Its on my bigfoot website. Entire report.


Re dermals, if a being has a temporary existance, it can have temporary dermals. BONK! And you still ignore the tracks in snow that disappear for NO GOOD REASON OR EXCUSE. Please drop your superior attitude,. You are not a field investigator,. Just an armchair type. Go back to cleaning bedpans...for mental patients.


I've told you what I do in mental health. No bedpans involved. The people we work with have the sense to take their meds.



" THE BEST EVIDENCE THERE IS FOR A PHYSICAL TYPE BIGFOOT----- BLOOD!!!!!
Collected by us, analyzed by experts in blood science."

http://www.beckjord.com/bigfoot/b&h.html

Emphasis mine.
 
I have been in Charlotte Court House, Va., for a week of R & R with some friends.

A very small town miles and miles from anywhere. A good place to see a bigfoot.

No, I didn't see bigfoot, but if I had, you'd have a body. :D
 
LTC8K6 said:
I have been in Charlotte Court House, Va., for a week of R & R with some friends.

A very small town miles and miles from anywhere. A good place to see a bigfoot.

No, I didn't see bigfoot, but if I had, you'd have a body. :D

Hm. There've been sightings in Virginia, believe it or not. Seems there's a great swamp that's had some activity. About all I've seen in Virginia in the way of a bigfoot is my son's. He's 6'4".

Beckjord got suspended again. Surprise.
 
The "Simple Challenge for Bigfoot Supporters" thread is closed. So I thought this could go here.

It might be interesting to read about the affects of witnessing a truly extraordinary undocumented species.

southernyahoo on BFF said:
I'm hoping a few witnesses can chime in here and relate what went through there minds during and after an encounter. Was it terror, awe, disbelief, denial, excited.......I've read of and spoken with some witnesses that describe a range of emotions like dread and depression to uncontrollable trembling to loss of control of bodily functions, depending on how intense the encounter was.

anyone up for sharing?
 
Psychological affects...

bipedalist on BFF said:
Well personally, I sound recorded (roughly you could call it that) the event the night of my sighting. But since the recorder was in a rainproof nylon cargo pocket it was not
a great recording (lots of background movement of me swatting mosquitos is mostly heard). In what can be heard though, you can hear the nervousness in the tremulous whistling call I'm making at the time I'm observing the green eyeshine in the bipedal below me that eventually started walking directly toward me. I use certain whistle patterns and unique bird calls (and they are quite effective) in my own research rather than woodknocks though early on I did get a delayed reply to patterned woodknocking that I'd been using for weeks one night encamped near my research plot. But then again, since I knew the creatures had been observing and holding back for sometime, I was somewhat prepared for the inevitability that, if I placed myself in a strategic position, I might have a close encounter. That really didn't dampen the abject terror when said animal eventually came within six ft. of my face at night and produced some very strange meteorological effects with its eyes. It took me many more nights before I subjected myself to doing that again. The worst psychological effect was that these "things" were not huge, so a high sense of panic about the unknown overtook me during and after the encounter. I will be talking more about this very soon so will decline to respond further on this thread or to PM. That's it for now.
 
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