Bigfoot DNA

[Jodie]

Jerry- I know I read about a white paper being submitted to a Russian magazine in one of the news releases but now I can find no reference to it....it wouldn't be the first time things were edited out or perhaps I've overlooked it looking too hard, anyone?

 

[Castro]

After making biblical references to them, as niffimers, and that among other things kills any cred she ever had, (Shes a veterinarian for example), but you just keep going on buying into the culty nonsense..... whateverrrrrrr.

posted at BFF

It is possible to discuss the "Nephilim" in a non Biblical context. The cryptic Nephilim are not associated with the supernatural, but are human/alien hybrids in service to an ancient race of aliens who the theory states were the "gods" of the ancient world. Many sources refer to the alien overlords as the Annunaki.

Think "jaffa" and "goua'uld" to get the point.

Think

Wow

 

[StankApe]

The first release on BE by Igor Brylsjfjdoqaik , wtvr the heck his name is said that there was a white paper release to a russian journal. This has since been completely removed and replaced with a new statement after Ketchum came out swinging...

It's gone now ,in other words, but i read it too, you aren't crazy Jodie!

 

[River]

Jerry- I know I read about a white paper being submitted to a Russian magazine in one of the news releases but now I can find no reference to it....it wouldn't be the first time things were edited out or perhaps I've overlooked it looking too hard, anyone?

From here:

I have received a question:

I have one question, what motivated you to share what you did today?

... and that you simply didn't understand that you weren't supposed to release the information until the American Journal first published the results.

I'm answering.

We waited a couple of years the scientific publication by Dr. Melba Ketchum. But scientific magazines refuse to publish her manuscript which deserves to be published. And I want to remind some facts of the destiny of scholars in our field.

Before the First World War our zoologist Vitaly Khahlov described the creature, named it Primihomo asiaticus. He send his scientific report very circumstantial, thorough to the Russian Academy of Sciences. And what? The report was put into the box, and had stayed there till 1959, about half of century. Until Dr. Porshnev found it and published...

I think the use of the word magazine was from this Burtsev quote.

 

[Sonny2]

New conspiracy hot off the press from Bigfoot Lunchclub:

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/11/dr-melba-ketchum-versus-matt-moneymaker.html#moretop

"Well by now everyone has heard the news. Melba Ketchum has issued a press release containing the findings of her study.

What is most interesting about this is the timing. The Saturday after Thanksgiving Melba Ketchum issues a press release, which just so happens to fly in the face of her tight lipped nature over the past two years. Remember Ketchum went so far as to engage in a disinformation campaign in an attempt to undermine the trustworthiness of what was reported by Robert Lindsey. Now all of a sudden Ketchum issues a statement that confirms most, it not all of what Robert Lindsay has reported.

..."

Seems to me that everyone in teh footer world's going to have pie on their face before this is all done.

 

[Sonny2]

Question: How long has this Ketchum thing been going on? I mean, when did she first announce she had DNA to test?

 

[calwaterbear]

First of all, all of the claims currently being made by ketchum are pretty spectacular. Just looking at it from the mechanical / work level point of view, she is claiming a whole load of work. I will try to lay it out more completely in a later post, but i am skeptical.

Now: Mulder, may i address you and some of your posts.
in my opinion, you completely misunderstand the scientific method, and how science is done. Essentially, if you are going to make an extraordinanry claim, you need to provide extraordinary evidence of your claim.

And the reason you provide that evidence is so that others have the information and data they need to reproduce your results.

In this case, Melba has made extraordinary claims, and for the past 3 years has provided exactly zero in the data or methodology department.

It is not scientists job to try and come up with some sort of test to try and validate Melbas work, with her hiding whatever evidence she may have.

One more time - she has made the claims, it is now her responsibility to provide the extraordinary evidence backing up her claims. !

it is also obvious to me Mulder that you do not have a very good understanding of how DNA is done, and you clearly have no understanding of the enormity of the task of dealing with 10 billion data points! that is Billion, with a B!

DNA processing is not magic, you don't throw stuff into a machine, and have it spit back an identification. It is far more complex than that. And, you also have indicated by your various posts that yopu have no concept how gen bank works, or what it is, or it's capabilities.

Given all of those clear shortfalls in your understanding of the process, you choose to try and bully people into submission using ignorance and misinformation!
Seems to me it would be much more productive for you to become undertsanding and conversant in DNA technology and techniques. I would highly recomend to you reading Dr. Sykes 7 daughters of Eve, as a start. it is now a bit dated, but will certainly increase your understanding significantly. its actually a pretty easy and entertaining read!

Now our lesson tommorrow will address the claims from Melba that she has completely sequenced 20 mitochondrial DNA sequenses. That raises and would allow for a very interesting look at the claims of highbrid. Tune in for more tommorrow
CWB

 

[Jodie]

No I read a reference to a white paper being submitted to a russian magazine. It was there last night. I know because I had to look up what the significance was of a white paper.

 

[RedRatSnake]

Now our lesson tommorrow will address the claims from Melba that she has completely sequenced 20 mitochondrial DNA sequenses. That raises and would allow for a very interesting look at the claims of highbrid. Tune in for more tommorrow
CWB

Looking forward to it

Thank you

 

[jerrywayne]

New conspiracy hot off the press from Bigfoot Lunchclub:

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/11/dr-melba-ketchum-versus-matt-moneymaker.html#moretop

"Well by now everyone has heard the news. Melba Ketchum has issued a press release containing the findings of her study.

What is most interesting about this is the timing. The Saturday after Thanksgiving Melba Ketchum issues a press release, which just so happens to fly in the face of her tight lipped nature over the past two years. Remember Ketchum went so far as to engage in a disinformation campaign in an attempt to undermine the trustworthiness of what was reported by Robert Lindsey. Now all of a sudden Ketchum issues a statement that confirms most, it not all of what Robert Lindsay has reported.

..."

Seems to me that everyone in teh footer world's going to have pie on their face before this is all done.

So the food fight begins: either skeptics will eat crow, or bigfooters will have pie on their faces.

 

[OntarioSquatch]

Like David Paulides said, it'll be published very soon. I just hope that once the public perception on Bigfoot changes, people will put aside the unhealthy type of skepticism that has been blocking investigation for so long.

 

[Jodie]

Unhealthy skepticism that blocks investigation? What on earth are you talking about? No one prevents anyone from looking for sasquatch or discussing their results. The problem with the research is unhealthy use of the scientific method on the proponents part.

 

[StankApe]

I just hope that when this is exposed to be nonsense pseudo-science that the bleever's perception changes and they will realize that there is no such thing is Bigfoot.

 

[Resume]

Like David Paulides said, it'll be published very soon. I just hope that once the public perception on Bigfoot changes, people will put aside the unhealthy type of skepticism that has been blocking investigation for so long.

Who's blocking what where? Utter nonsense. Get out there!

 

[RedRatSnake]

Like David Paulides said, it'll be published very soon. I just hope that once the public perception on Bigfoot changes, people will put aside the unhealthy type of skepticism that has been blocking investigation for so long.

I just want to know one thing ~ Is "Big Foot" the 500 Pound Hairy Ape that has been talked about for so long, or are we going to change history cause of a Half Ass report from a totally unreliable source.

 

[OntarioSquatch]

Bigfoot is seen as a taboo subject by many scientists.

 

[RedRatSnake]

I just hope that when this is exposed to be nonsense pseudo-science that the bleever's perception changes and they will realize that there is no such thing is Bigfoot.

The Union Ain't Going To Allow That.

 

[Sonny2]

JerryWayne, the mods clipped my quote from that article, as it was too long, but the rest of it said that Melba's recent announcement was an attempt to one-up Moneymaker's revelation in tomorrow night's episode of FB that they'd had BF hair analyzed and the DNA says it's definitely BF.

She had her hand forced, so to speak. But one commenter said that FB was filmed months ago and if MM had real evidence, no way he would've waited this long. Another comment quoted some kind of copyright application by Ketchum for a documentary etc. and that app. had the whole shebang of her findings synopsized. It was supposedly from 2008, that's why I asked how long this whole thing has been going on. It was an interesting comment, but I don't know how important it might be. But apparently she's had this whole thing cooked up for some time.

 

[Vortigern99]

Like David Paulides said, it'll be published very soon. I just hope that once the public perception on Bigfoot changes, people will put aside the unhealthy type of skepticism that has been blocking investigation for so long.

Present the evidence of the animal's existence and I will happily accept it (after close scrutiny and fact-checking, natch).

 

[DennyT]

Question: How long has this Ketchum thing been going on? I mean, when did she first announce she had DNA to test?

She got involved with a television program called Destination Truth back in about 2008 and appeared on the show in 2009. After that she began getting samples to test; late in 2009 she got involved with Tom Biscardi, David Paulides and Richard Stubstad. In the fall of 2010 she and Paulides started to publicly claim she had DNA proof of bigfoot.