Bigfoot DNA

[Castro]

I don't think it could happen that way since they can't find any Neandertal mt DNA in our lineage.

According to John Hawks, The lack of Neandertal MtDNA in "us" is due to selection that occured after the interbreeding :

"Selection. Selection. Selection.
...
The mtDNA of Neandertals is gone because it conferred some disadvantage. There are many reasons to suspect this -- the Neandertal variation is itself apparently recently derived; the human variation is clearly in disequilibrium, especially outside Africa; the mtDNA genes affect functions that differ greatly in Neandertal and recent populations, including energetics, longevity, and brain; there are clear signs of mtDNA selection in many recent human populations."

 

[Jodie]

http://www.pnas.org/content/108/37/15129



The Shrike's scenario seems credible to me, at least with the hypothesis #1 :
A few tribes of Humans and a tribe of Neandertals share the same territory. They hate each other and avoid direct confrontation, but when it happens ... Shrike's scenario here.

I can see the scenario happening as laid out but the heredity indicates that the only combination that probably produced viable off spring was female human/male Neandertal. The abstract you linked essentially said the same thing the article I linked said regarding the statistical model that they used to guesstimate the likelihood of reproduction occurring except they concluded that matings were a rare occurrence.

It's more likely only certain combinations resulted in viable offspring IMO. I know people from dealing with them in the STD clinics, sex is a big priority, and if you can't find a partner of choice you'll love the one you are with. I'm leaning towards the lack of viable off spring as the reason rather than an encounter being a rare occurrence to explain the low percentage of Neandertal genetic material present in today's population.

Now what I find even more fascinating when you really read these articles and studies is that the 2-4% of Neandertal genetic material present in the current populations across the middle east and Asia are different. I wonder why? I can't wait to see what further research has to say about that one.

 

[River]

Things like this still amuse me. This a quote from Melba Ketchums facebook before it was shut down. I find it amusing that we silly humans cant find a beast of this purported size roaming our neighborhoods and forests. What a joke! lol...

Below is an image someone made a long time ago (maybe someone can credit the maker if they remember) to compare an 8, 10, and 12 foot squatch to a typical human. Melba claims to have seen a 10 footer...

Melba Ketchum from facebook:

I am glad I didn't see them until after most of the data was in. I needed to prove it scientifically to myself first as a former skeptic before hitting the field and actually observing them. I had no fear, the ones I encountered were peaceful and gentle. I keep going back. I know why so many people love doing this now.I saw one silhouetted between me and a white gooseneck trailer in bright moonlight at about twenty-five yards. It was about ten feet tall as it walked by. I was awed at the appearance, so graceful and silent and so tall. You cannot appreciate all that they are until you see for yourself. I hope that when our data is out, it will afford protection for our hairy friends. They do not deserve to be hunted or captured. Everyone needs to step back and take a Jane Goodall approach.

 

[OntarioSquatch]

It's no joke. They normally range from 7-9 feet tall so it would make sense that the tallest would be over 10 feet. I don't understand why people continually complain about not finding them. They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

 

[Correa Neto]

Simple answer:

Bigfoot are not real.

 

[River]

It's no joke. They normally range from 7-9 feet tall so it would make sense that the tallest would be over 10 feet. I don't understand why people continually complain about not finding them. They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

Oh yes it is. (a joke) Just not to "footers" and not to the people making money off of them.

I supposed all of those other animals cataloged "chose to show themselves". But ole bigfoot, he only shows himself to believers, and to people without cameras. Sounds a lot like other social constructs. In fact, it perfectly matches the profile. Bigfoot is a ghost.

What specifically convinces you OntarioSquatch? I'm indeed curious.

 

[Jodie]

OS- something is rotten in Denmark if you can't find a 10 foot tall bigfoot.

 

[I am Bigfoot]

It's no joke. They normally range from 7-9 feet tall so it would make sense that the tallest would be over 10 feet. I don't understand why people continually complain about not finding them. They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

There's a reason no one has captured a unicorn yet. Their blood makes great hair conditioner. It would be a mistake for them to show themselves.

 

[Robrob]

It's no joke. They normally range from 7-9 feet tall so it would make sense that the tallest would be over 10 feet. I don't understand why people continually complain about not finding them. They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

And since we know animals (or humans) never make mistakes...

 

[AttorneyTom]

Things like this still amuse me. This a quote from Melba Ketchums facebook before it was shut down. I find it amusing that we silly humans cant find a beast of this purported size roaming our neighborhoods and forests. What a joke! lol...

Below is an image someone made a long time ago (maybe someone can credit the maker if they remember) to compare an 8, 10, and 12 foot squatch to a typical human. Melba claims to have seen a 10 footer...




[qimg]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x379/127007/twelveftSasq002.jpg[/qimg]

I love this "photograph" !! The BF's seem to be either thoughtfully pondering about themselves .. perhaps from the Human's question ? Or maybe they are sensing that an electronic device was nearby ?.. Or... they have sensed a Zagnut Bar might be forthcoming ?

 

[Voodoosix]

They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

we know this to be true because Squatches trained the Vietcong how to cover their tracks, drag off their dead and skootch along on their butts as not to leave tracks when reaching into a muddy fruit trap.

ive been saying it for years, we should stop the search for large hairy ape like creatures and be on the lookout for forest ninjas.

coincidence?

 

[OntarioSquatch]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

 

[Vortigern99]

No amount of disbelief that it doesn't not un-exist makes it not a fact that it doesn't exist.

 

[River]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

My bolded: Tell them theres a bigfoot in the woods, and that its a ninja. Impossible to catch/hunt/photograph/prove.

 

[Vortigern99]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

With a backlog of 157 (and counting) nonsensical posts, this has got to be the champion of absurdist, surreal, 2+2=-0 thinking yet put forward by OntarioSquatch.

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them.

You do? Well I think that's an incredibly stupid thing to say/write/think. A 10-foot-tall ninja ape that ninjas its scat and bones into oblivion. Awesome.

How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools?

What does this sentence even mean? Who is "we" in the opening clause? What "human" is being referred to here, the "human bigfoot" that is currently subsuming bigfootery? If so, how can you possibly reconcile a non-tool-using, 10-foot-tall, hair-covered forest-dwelling ape with the term "human"? Do you have any grasp of the human fossil record? Have you ever so much as skimmed an anthropology textbook?

Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it.

And yet you believe the PG film shows a real one. Hookay.

When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

Only if the same tactics work on unicorns or a free lunch.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

I'm fascinated by the hunting insights.

Hunters look for game. Do you think we could apply that to bigfoot? Look for one?

 

[captain koolaid]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

This thing is hunting us. All of us. You know that.

It's no joke. They normally range from 7-9 feet tall so it would make sense that the tallest would be over 10 feet. I don't understand why people continually complain about not finding them. They would have to make a mistake somehow or choose to show themselves.

Like the chameleon, it uses the jungle.

 

[Resume]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

Ninja-Footie now?

This is a performance art piece, correct?

 

[Voodoosix]

i think Gigantonijacus is the missing link between sasquatch and Gigantopithecus, if it crossed over from Asia then it must follow logically.

 

[LTC8K6]

I think a ninja would be a good way to describe them. How can we fool a human whose intelligence is built for survival without the use of tools? Of course one might make a mistake and somehow be seen, but I wouldn't count on it. When hunters want to get within shooting range of animals they usually either look for one, try to fool one or wait for one to show up. Will any of these tactics work with Bigfoot?

If looking for one won't work, your mission is going to be very hard to complete...

And, complaints about "science" not looking for one are then void...since looking for one is apparently a wasted effort...

What you apparently have to do to get near bigfoot is tromp through the woods making a lot of noise. This drives all the regular critters far away from you and your group, clearing the field for a bigfoot encounter.