Bigfoot DNA

[calwaterbear]

OK, running samples - anyone want to watch / participate

OK everyone,
I will be processing purported Bigfoot saliva samples next week. Looks to be Thursday, depending on promised date of delivery of required chemicals.

Contrary to Melbas lying and secrecy and NDA etc, any and all who would like to watch are welcomed. You may even be asked to volunteer your DNA (via mouth rinse) as part of the control, if you are interested.

As far as waiting for results - well assuming we isolate DNA, the sequence will be available by June 20th, 1 week after original processing.

If anyone is in contact with Melba, please tell her she is invited, and I can instruct her on protocols that actually work, and produce sequence! I cannot however help her in her desperate, but failed attempt to somehow twist negative results into her pre conceived conclusion. That would be outside the realm of science, in fact, exactly the opposite.
So anyone in Central California that wants to see this - you are more than welcome to attend and participate.

CWB

 

[jhunter1163]

Our intentions have always been to submit the results of the bigfoot DNA project to a scientific journal and to have our results peer reviewed. If other scientists of international notoriety give the paper their blessing, there is then no basis for refusing to accept the validity of the results. Protocol in this process is mandated, scientists (participants) can never release results of the testing until the paper is peer reviewed.

"International notoriety"? Like the Bentham Open Access Journal?

 

[Jodie]

OK everyone,
I will be processing purported Bigfoot saliva samples next week. Looks to be Thursday, depending on promised date of delivery of required chemicals.

Contrary to Melbas lying and secrecy and NDA etc, any and all who would like to watch are welcomed. You may even be asked to volunteer your DNA (via mouth rinse) as part of the control, if you are interested.

As far as waiting for results - well assuming we isolate DNA, the sequence will be available by June 20th, 1 week after original processing.

If anyone is in contact with Melba, please tell her she is invited, and I can instruct her on protocols that actually work, and produce sequence! I cannot however help her in her desperate, but failed attempt to somehow twist negative results into her pre conceived conclusion. That would be outside the realm of science, in fact, exactly the opposite.
So anyone in Central California that wants to see this - you are more than welcome to attend and participate.

CWB

I hate it that I'm clear across the continent, I'ld love to watch and help. Reading about it and actually doing it are two different things.

 

[TheJackal]

Cal, I would be worried to volunteer some DNA, I am one of the "known" hybrids ... I just can't figure out if I am part Reptilian or Squatch.

All kidding aside, nice to see that something will be done "in the open" with no double secret crap, and hopefully no pictures of sticks. Of course, pictures of sticks are always entertaining. Sort of a Rorschach test for habituators. Is it a shelter or a birthing station, perhaps even food storage.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

OK everyone,
I will be processing purported Bigfoot saliva samples next week. Looks to be Thursday, depending on promised date of delivery of required chemicals.

Contrary to Melbas lying and secrecy and NDA etc, any and all who would like to watch are welcomed. You may even be asked to volunteer your DNA (via mouth rinse) as part of the control, if you are interested.

As far as waiting for results - well assuming we isolate DNA, the sequence will be available by June 20th, 1 week after original processing.

If anyone is in contact with Melba, please tell her she is invited, and I can instruct her on protocols that actually work, and produce sequence! I cannot however help her in her desperate, but failed attempt to somehow twist negative results into her pre conceived conclusion. That would be outside the realm of science, in fact, exactly the opposite.
So anyone in Central California that wants to see this - you are more than welcome to attend and participate.

CWB

Are you allowed to talk about who sent them and what the alleged encounter was?

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Exactly what Melissa Hovey did with her bigfoot picture.

Hi Castro

I was not following this closely enough to say, but Peter did not taint himself in ways she has appeared to. Peter listened to stories and sallied forth to look for the critter where people said it was. And golly gee whiz he never found one, but he's sure willing to keep looking for cash.

He did claim to have found footprints, and he did smuggle a piece of a hand out of Tibet, but he didn't risk his reputation by saying it definitely was a hand, and he had incredible style by having actor Jimmy Stewart do the smuggling.

She's concealing where she got it, which although is not something I indicated important - it definitely is. Peter very loudly provided chain of custody from the Monestary to him to Stewart, and then to some scientists who examined it.

I'm happy to be corrected because I don't know this case so well, but I think the location and the supplier of the photo have been concealed. One of the other interesting "reveals" is that if a game cam took a shot that close then there should be footprints corroborating the story.

I have what I call "indicator sticks" out on the trails and the reason I put them there is to better determine when whatever it was passed by. I have two set right now. I don't need a picture because I can see the prints. I'm pretty good about determining how old they are but there's nothing like knowing exactly when you put the indicator stick across the trail to establish the oldest time the tracks can be, and if you did it after they already bedded down for the night then you know it was that morning.

 

[calwaterbear]

Are you allowed to talk about who sent them and what the alleged encounter was?

Well, i have not been "banned" from doing that, but i think that is probably bad form. I would rather they come out with it. i will though try to get their blessing to post the whole story here, but I'm not really in the business of debating and scrutinizing. i'm taking what is proported to be a sample, and trying to determine what species it comes from.

Lets wait till the results come back, then we will see where we need to go!

 

[DennyT]

OK everyone,
I will be processing purported Bigfoot saliva samples next week. Looks to be Thursday, depending on promised date of delivery of required chemicals.

Contrary to Melbas lying and secrecy and NDA etc, any and all who would like to watch are welcomed. You may even be asked to volunteer your DNA (via mouth rinse) as part of the control, if you are interested.

As far as waiting for results - well assuming we isolate DNA, the sequence will be available by June 20th, 1 week after original processing.

If anyone is in contact with Melba, please tell her she is invited, and I can instruct her on protocols that actually work, and produce sequence! I cannot however help her in her desperate, but failed attempt to somehow twist negative results into her pre conceived conclusion. That would be outside the realm of science, in fact, exactly the opposite.
So anyone in Central California that wants to see this - you are more than welcome to attend and participate.

CWB

of course you had to tell us the day AFTER I buy two tickets to the US Open. Golf.

 

[Jodie]

I'm trying to remember the details when she posted on the BFF. I believe she said it was an old photo and whoever sent it to her did not give her any details about the area. It was also sent to her 3-4 years prior, I think. She said all she had was an e-mail address regarding the identity of the owner of the photo.

Here is where I get foggy on the story, evidently she got permission to copyright the photo from this person, but I'm not sure how since she claimed to only have an e-mail address. Can an anonymous e-mail handle give permission to publish a photo if you aren't sure that the person you are dealing with is really the owner? The back story never made any sense to me so I figured she didn't want to provide the source. I never could figure out why she couldn't just say that instead of giving the other explanation.

 

[calwaterbear]

of course you had to tell us the day AFTER I buy two tickets to the US Open. Golf.

Parn, it's thursday, nothing of import will go down then. assuming you are to Chicken to show up, I will give you the blow by blow account.

This will definitely determine if the samples have DNA, and should sort out if it's human or some other animal, depending on the results I get, i will then look at going after other genes, per sykes, but no reason for me to spend that money unless I see evidence of something interesting! I'm paying for this out of my pocket, didn't want anyone trying to use that to taint the results, but if it does appear to be interesting - we will ramp it up. The sample contains lots of "stuff", so i wont run out of source material, but I need to determine if it's even worthy of a second look.
I can tell you that if i get a negative finding - it won't matter to these guys, they would just ignore it in their "accounts" They claim sightings, habitation sites, campground harrassment, etc. But if the DNA did turn out to be something between humans and chimps - they would have their reality show!

wow - never dawned on me, theres alot of money in this for me to fake it, or just go into "lead on" "just over the next hill" mode.

Unfortunately, i suspect the results will not allow me that luxury. I predict mammalian quadruped, so feared that it is often burned at the stake, or alternately, the steak is burned!
CWB
golf - really?

 

[DennyT]

I chose the event, my wife chose the day. If mom aint happy, nobody's happy.

Tiger, lefty and bubba are in the same foursome on Thurs and Fri. Somebody she's never heard of may be in the lead on Sunday. I can't argue with her logic. it was in the paper today so everyone and his dog will be following that group.

 

[calwaterbear]

Case closed - Big foot proof, we can all go home now!

will the last guy here turn out the lights please
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/06/robert-lindsay-photo-of-bigfoot-steak.html?spref=fb

Robert Lindsey posts a photo of the "sierra Steak (which looks like a leftove part of a coyote hide in winter coat to me - but what do I know?) He also also says it's ID is confirmed by DNA!
So now we apparently have some sort of known voucher specimen we have DNA from to compare it to the sierra steak. how come nobody told me about this!
This explains Melba pulling her facebook - obviously her job is done!

Congratulations Melba!

 

[GT/CS]

There are some hilarious comments on that site.

The hide looks exactly like wolverine fur.

 

[Jodie]

The fur doesn't look the way that Justin described it, I thought he said it was gray. I don't see any gray in that hunk of fur/hair.

From what Justin told me, the DNA came back 37% human which means nothing to me since a daffodil has 25% of its DNA in common with humans.....evidently it was one of the three samples chosen for sequencing.

 

[AttorneyTom]

Gosh.. it is a really good thing he TradeMarked it ?! Or plastered his name on the photo and a date. Good grief.

 

[AttorneyTom]

The fur doesn't look the way that Justin described it, I thought he said it was gray. I don't see any gray in that hunk of fur/hair.

From what Justin told me, the DNA came back 37% human which means nothing to me since a daffodil has 25% of its DNA in common with humans.....evidently it was one of the three samples chosen for sequencing.

Really ? That is funny !

 

[Jodie]

Really ? That is funny !

Well it is what he said, I knew it was coming from someone who had a poor understanding of what someone told him who in turn that probably didn't understand what they were talking about.

The thing is he distinctly told me it was gray, that hair is not gray. Whatever that is a picture of isn't what was described, if it ever existed at all.

 

[calwaterbear]

The fur doesn't look the way that Justin described it, I thought he said it was gray. I don't see any gray in that hunk of fur/hair.

From what Justin told me, the DNA came back 37% human which means nothing to me since a daffodil has 25% of its DNA in common with humans.....evidently it was one of the three samples chosen for sequencing.

That 37% number means absolutely nothing in this context. Is that 37% of the bases the same? of what section of the DNA? through what methodology. none of this means anything.
as for chosen for sequencing. I get my sequences done from 3 - 8 bucks a sample - depending on what i am looking at. why would you "select" 3, why not run everything you have? BTW - who "chose" the 3? from how many total? selection criteria?

i'm not familiar with or recalling Justin? is he the guy who shot it? Man would I love to wire up his brain and watch it fire up when he tells the story!

CWB

 

[GT/CS]

If the results come back as something that's not legal to shoot someone is going to jail.

 

[calwaterbear]

If the results come back as something that's not legal to shoot someone is going to jail.

first you would have to prove what it is, second you would have to prove he's not lying about shooting it. this whole "afraid of being prosecuted" is another convienient dodge for these "truthbenders" intent on gaming the system!

first he was afraid to report it because he was afraid of it being "human" now we see the hair - what do you think? If you saw that hair covering the body, would you believe it was human?