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Jodie said:
I know just enough about genetics to follow what you are saying. Where does hypertrichosis fit in? Is it related to this specific gene you are talking about or is it a mutation of a different gene or set of genes?
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How about you tell us whether hypertrichosis fits in. Then if you make a convincing argument that hypertrichosis has anything to do with bigfootery, it would make sense to discuss where it fits in; doesn't that make more sense?

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Apparently you entirely miss the point of the finding of human DNA "where bigfoot walks." It doesn't mean bigfoot is human.
 
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Here is a hypothetical 'squatchy' place. Pictured are all the creatures that have wandered through it recently, each one leaving behind some DNA.

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Do you see an 8 ft 600 lb animal with glowing eyes, hinged feet the size of snowshoes, no neck, conical head, never poops, can run like the wind on two legs or four, has a perfect record of evading man and man's killing machines, yet can't figure out fire, tools, shelter or clothing, not to mention how it evades natural mishaps and even death or fossilization for some 10,000 years? I don't. You want to put hair all over one of the humans? fine. makes no difference. I see known animals. The DNA lab sees the same animals I we see in the picture. You see, bigfootery is not about the animals in the picture; it's about what is in the minds of the people who report.

Oh, wait, some guy named Roger Patterson says he knows different. Stop the presses, I mean, show a little respect, after all, it's PT Barnum Roger freakin Patterson.
 
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parnassus said:
Here is a hypothetical 'squatchy' place. Pictured are all the creatures that have wandered through it recently, each one leaving behind some DNA.

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Do you see an 8 ft 600 lb animal with glowing eyes, hinged feet the size of snowshoes, no neck, conical head, never poops, can run like the wind on two legs or four, has a perfect record of evading man and man's killing machines, yet can't figure out fire, tools, shelter or clothing, not to mention how it evades natural mishaps and even death or fossilization for some 10,000 years? I don't. You want to put hair all over one of the humans? fine. makes no difference. I see known animals. The DNA lab sees the same animals I we see in the picture. You see, bigfootery is not about the animals in the picture; it's about what is in the minds of the people who report.

Oh, wait, some guy named Roger Patterson says he knows different. Stop the presses, I mean, show a little respect, after all, it's PT Barnum Roger freakin Patterson.
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There is perhaps evidence of one genetic anomaly that would need to be researched.

They are all missing feet which leads me to wonder if perhaps the nuclear powerplant on the far right might have something to do with it.. or there is a slight variation in something else. Also the one tree is much lighter in color than the others ? Which could have something to do with the flight survey teams grid maps but I am just guessing...
 
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When I played that Slim Harpo piece, my one year old came charging out of the bedroom. He's dancing on my chair right now. Great stuff.
 
I would also think that the tree to the far right would have a lot of yellow in the snow at its base during the winter fly over period ?
 
parnassus said:
How about you tell us whether hypertrichosis fits in. Then if you make a convincing argument that hypertrichosis has anything to do with bigfootery, it would make sense to discuss where it fits in; doesn't that make more sense?

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Apparently you entirely miss the point of the finding of human DNA "where bigfoot walks." It doesn't mean bigfoot is human.
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No, I think you misinterpret what I'm getting at. There are several different types of hypertrichosis caused by different mutations on different gene sets. If one of these genes happens to be the gene Cal was referring to then you can't use that as a distinction for something different. It's just a human.

This is what is bothering me about this study. Dr. Sykes is an expert with extracting ancient DNA and how the population is genetically related, and that's all fine and good, but I'm thinking from a disease diagnostic perspective.

If you have an undocumented mutation or mutations in the mtDNA there are a lot of studies that will still need to be done before you can declare it the cause of a specific genetic defect. Unless he has a genetic disease specialist to consult, I can see a lot of potential for misinterpretation here using modern samples. Some person with a benign mtDNA defect might get branded as some kind of hominid freak. Surely he will do that though, I hope so, I don't assume anything anymore with these private studies.
 
AttorneyTom said:
There is perhaps evidence of one genetic anomaly that would need to be researched.

They are all missing feet which leads me to wonder if perhaps the nuclear powerplant on the far right might have something to do with it.. or there is a slight variation in something else. Also the one tree is much lighter in color than the others ? Which could have something to do with the flight survey teams grid maps but I am just guessing...
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Ok this was good...LOLOL
 
Ray,
I thought I had provided a summary of his info, sorry if I did not. As has been posted here, Sykes has indeed confirmed that the His graduate student was eventually able to positively ID the DNA as being from from 2 different species of bear. The reason it took so long - was that it took several attempts to get rid of the human contamination, those samples had been handled alot, over a long time. I assume there was also some degrradation issues, if it's not to bad you can fix that, just takes a bit longer.

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No need for you to release information from an email, but it might be interesting to see what he's said about it. I thought maybe you had some 'facts' to share about his test results of the Bhutan hairs.

No, though in trying to separate fact from fiction, I have exchanged emails with Dr.Chris.Jeynes concerning PIXE testing, Professor Frank Poirier regarding hair analysis he was involved with, and Dr. Jeff Meldrum about the Skookum cast.

I thought it might be simple for you to give us some sort of conclusion without anyone having to travel to Oxford or visit their local library. I generally do my searching via Google, or find things in one of the many bigfoot books in my collection.

While I don't mind digging for info myself, and have done so in the past, I thought you may have some knowledge you could share. My bad.

RayG
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TheMelba describes herself as The Chosen One, and hopes everyone dies in a fire:
Dr. Melba Ketchum ...I didn't choose to research this, it chose me, regrettably due to my curiosity. I never intended for this to be so out of hand, I just thought it was interesting when I had some unexpected results, nothing more. Now that I have seen them, it is more interesting and I know volumes now, but once again, I didn't seek that out, it came to me quite unexpectedly on my lease. Though it made it real to me in a way I never dreamed, it has nothing to do with our manuscript. The manuscript is purely scientific and it is what is important to those that want to prove BF exists, not the fun I've had in the field or any photos or audio that I have obtained. I consider that a new hobby of sorts. I love nature and it is good for me to go out and enjoy it. I don't even know if I will share any of it at this point. There is no reason to do so as it will just stir the pot so to speak. It is abundantly clear that audio and video will not by itself prove anything so why bother.
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There should be a question mark after the expression "why bother."

We academics tend to be pedants because we've been taught a lot of stuff and we generally care deeply about getting that stuff right. When someone pursuing an academic exploit - you know, like discovering an extant hominin and trying to publish a paper on it - makes the same mistakes/takes the same grammatical shortcuts as your average high school student posting on Facebook, it just waves those red flags for me.
 
She's not an academic - she's a vet. I know that sounds pedantic but people keep on forgetting the huge difference between a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine and a PhD in some sort of applied science.

edited: Doctorate to Doctor.
 
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