Bigfoot DNA

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Following the video precedents, all of the DNA will be blurry.

 

[LTC8K6]

The entry of Meldrum (not to mention Stubstad, Ed Smith, and who knows else) into the DNA field insures that hope will never die for the 'footers. There will always be samples to submit, multiple labs to process material, encouraging letters and emails from lab owners, polymorphisms to hype, papers being endlessly written and rewritten, power point presentations phoned in, press embargos that last for years, publications in 3rd rate journals, blurry videos and images, reports of encounters, campaigns to save the bigfoot, descriptions of bigfoot family life, diet, shelters, communications, and footprints; and nine year olds reporting bigfoot sightings in Wisconsin school yards. The one thing there will never be... is an actual bigfoot.

Snelgrove lake.

Enough said about Meldrum and DNA.

 

[DennyT]

Snelgrove lake.

Enough said about Meldrum and DNA.

On April 28, 2012 Dr. Jeff Meldrum and Dr. Bryan Sykes had lunch to discuss among other things the possibility of the hybridization of sasquatch. Sykes, who is very familiar with the mixing of ancestral genes in humans, was curious about the possible hybridization of Sasquatch. During the lunch Dr. Meldrum advised Dr Sykes, "It was extremely unlikely that such hybridization had occurred," Meldrum continued, "and the evidence was non-existent at this point, but the question was out there and was worthy of examination."

Translation: "You say bigfoot is human..game on, Melba! I see your veterinary lab and raise you the Relict Hominoid Inquiry The National California/Oregon Trail Center Idaho State Oxford University."

I have to believe Meldrum is going for the Sierra Steaks (and the Olympic project business), both of whom must be running out of patience with TheMelba and her cosmic embargos. I imagine Sykes could dispose of the Sierra steak in about three weeks.

 

[DennyT]

Following the video precedents, all of the DNA will be blurry.

That's hilarious and actually somewhat true, if you look at the gels.

 

[DennyT]

Following the video precedents, all of the DNA will be blurry.

That's hilarious and actually somewhat true, if you look at the gels.

 

[DennyT]

This is why I think the paper will be called "Variations in MC1R as yet seen in Genbank" (or wtvr) there will be no mention of unknown primate nor Bigfoot.

BUT, when she explains this to the Footers she will explain how this "proves" Bigfoot and how" groundbreaking " it is. It's the perfect way to get it published in a decent journal, yet still spin it to the footers

I agree, but the paper then becomes almost pointless. The problem with that is that she doesn't have any phenotypes ie no bodies/individuals, to show the expression of these mutated genes ie what does an individual look like with this polymorphism?. So it becomes a "so what?" paper. There are dozens of polymorphisms in that gene. Do you think every single one gets a separate publication, especially with no phenotype?

Literally and figuratively, the journal might say, "Where's the meat?"
jmho.

ps is BravesFan/whoever now banned? what is the story there?

 

[GT/CS]

The paper may not be pointless because it will still win her favor from the 'footers.

BravesFan
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236140

 

[DennyT]

The paper may not be pointless because it will still win her favor from the 'footers.

BravesFan
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236140

I meant pointless in terms of scientific interest and therefore a journal wanting/not wanting to publish it, because there are other more interesting/deserving papers.

Let me also say and clarify, in this regard, for the benefit of any bigfoot believers who might read this, that I do not think that Meldrum/Sykes will be helpful/supportive to what Ketchum/Paulides is/are seemingly up to. Au contraire. I think it likely that M/S will be adding this to their lab equipment.

It is interesting to me that Meldrum has not associated with Todd Disotell in this effort, whom he recruited for the editorial board of the Relict Hominoid Inquiry. I expect there may be already be some friction there, based on the quality of stuff that has been published.
jmho.

 

[HarryHenderson]

That's hilarious and actually somewhat true, if you look at the gels.

Following the video precedents, all of the DNA will be blurry.

That is hilarious!

 

[HarryHenderson]

...
It is interesting to me that Meldrum has not associated with Todd Disotell in this effort, whom he recruited for the editorial board of the Relict Hominoid Inquiry. I expect there may be already be some friction there, based on the quality of stuff that has been published.
jmho.

If Disotell is a legitimate scientist doing legitimate science, there's no ******* way he and Melsdumb could still be on the same page. And that's regardless of what Melsdumb actually 'believes' regarding Bigfoot.

What should be obvious to everyone now, including the BFF faithful types, is Dr. Melsdumb isn't a Bigfoot science dissident, he's an unrelenting charlatan. Note how his colleagues barely allow his name spoken in their presence. They'd rather piss in the dean's shoes than endorse the lump. YET, it's true that a guy like him - one going against the grain - who was on the right track to something would absolutely have a quantifiable amount of fellow scientist followers if he was really on to something worthwhile. Even if mainstream science hadn't yet 'accepted' it. Meldrum can't even get his childhood friend, lifelong buddy and fake-doctor-thief "Dr. Steal" to endorse him. Even the ones with the dubious titles don't wanna get mixed up in that ****.

For Melsdumb, the 'guise of science' is just a cover for his shameless hustling. And his shameless hustling is just a cover to get more chicks. And cash. His wife hates more chicks. Loves cash.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

The chicks say he has a mid-pecker break.

 

[TheJackal]

All of the various DNA studies either underway or under discussion will still prove nothing without a body. They can collect all the hair, toe nails, ear wax, feces, etc. they want, but until you have a body, all you have is some interesting DNA (assuming the DNA even tests out as something beyond a known creature or modern human). Either capture one alive, or bring back a body of one that has died of natural causes or lead poisoning. Until then, I will still firmly believe that Bigfoot is a mythological creature of modern creation.

 

[HarryHenderson]

The chicks say he has a mid-pecker break.

<unabashed bashing>
So at just before the 2 inch mark it 'breaks' left or right?
</unabashed bashing>

 

[River]

Welll..... you guys should already know as skeptics that "if" there were any "human" dna /steak whatever present that LE would be all over it. It would no longer be a NDA situation. Period.

So, what are the alternatives? Something naturally occurring, or there would be an official investigation. Period. Next?

Meldrum disappoints me lately. I feel like he is allowing his clouded objectivity to persuade dollars from marks in a sometimes direct fashion, and sometimes indirect. If he can't solve the Wallace mystery or the Patterson one given the evidence he's been handed, I'd have to say bluntly that he hardly deserves the title he holds.

I could change my mind if he would actually step up and be willing to eat a little crow. (especially on the footprints from the pgf which he published a paper on) He might surprise me, but I think he's lost care for the truth. JMHO


As for Ketchum? lol... shes going to keep taking the test dollars until someone stops paying. duh.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

The break at 2" renders the rest the organ flaccid for the remainder of its entire inch Harry

River - we didn't see Merldumb stepping out with is own bigfoot hoaxing until he already had tenure, which is a demonstration of how calculating his deceit is. So I wouldn't expect him to come clean unless bigfoot fell from popularity. It's a P.T. Barnum philosophy - as long as people will pay admission there isn't any reason to cancel the show.

 

[DennyT]

The bleevers have kind of mangled, in their own special wishful way, and to fan the flickering flames of DNA, most of the information about Bryan Sykes, Meldrum's new partner in the DNA/bigfoot business. Firstly, they want to recall that he processed a specimen that showed an unknown animal DNA. Actually, the DNA turned out later to be bear, and this was written up in an unpublished thesis by a grad student, according to Wikipedia's Yeti entry.

One well publicized expedition to Bhutan reported that a hair sample had been obtained that, after DNA analysis by Professor Bryan Sykes, could not be matched to any known animal.[59] Analysis completed after the media release, however, clearly showed that the samples were from the Brown bear (Ursus arctos) and the Asiatic black bear (Ursus thibetanus).[60]

Chandler, H.C. (2003). Using Ancient DNA to Link Culture and Biology in Human Populations. Unpublished D.Phil. thesis. University of Oxford, Oxford.

Secondly, the "president"of "bigfootology" a certain "Rhettman A. Mullis, Jr., MS, MHP
Academic and Field Researcher," says Sykes is going to write a book and make three one hour documentaries, yet they haven't collected the specimens yet??

Dr. Sykes is writing a book on the findings and their invitation for us to be a part of this project is the equivalent of having Dr. Stephen Hawkings ask to help identify a new star, or Einstein asking us to be a part of developing quantum-mechanic theories. We are honored and privileged to be included. So Dr. Sykes will write his book, but they are also filming a documentary that will be three one hour shows about the event. Soon we will be asking for DNA samples from all over the world and Bigfootology will assist in the accumulation of those samples. We are also in the process of reaching out to some known hybrid-offspring of human and Bigfoot joining. Because this work is being done by scientists using scientific method and Bigfootology being the only actual scientific organization, the outcomes will not be questioned or doubted critically, because the scientists involved are at the top of their field.

Cough, cough.

Actually I think that he is referring to a new book by Sykes

Professor Sykes latest book DNA USA: A Genetic Portrait of America is now on sale in the US. It has already received excellent advanced reviews. ...
British geneticist Sykes, whose account of his discovery of the "clan mothers" of Europe The Seven Daughters of Eve (2001), became a bestseller, wondered what a genetic protrait of America would look like. He gamely embarked on a coast-to-coast DNA-collecting adventure and learned that the collision between genetics and people's sense of identity can be explosive. After cogently explaining how "the record of the past" is "written in DNA" and how it is interpreted, he presents startling findings about Native American ancestry, which stand in profound conflict with traditional beliefs and reopen old wounds. African Americans, by and large, have embraced the revelations of DNA as a remedy to the rupture and erasure of the slave trade, and Sykes was able to reconnect individuals with heretofore lost legacies rooted in specific African regions. ... Human genetics energetically elucidated, entertaining travel writing, the fascinating personal stories of DNA volunteers, and Sykes' candid musings on his awakening to the complex emotional and social implications of hidden biological inheritances make for a milestone book guaranteed to ignite spirtied discussion"

This has nothing to do with bigfoot.

 

[DennyT]

The bleevers have kind of mangled, in their own special wishful way, and to fan the flickering flames of DNA, much of the information about Bryan Sykes, Meldrum's new partner in the DNA/bigfoot business. Firstly, he is no longer a professor at Oxford, he retired. He's emeritus. He may be running a for profit operation now.

Secondly, they want to recall that he processed a specimen that showed an unknown animal DNA. Actually, the DNA turned out later to be bear, and this was written up in an unpublished thesis by a grad student, according to Wikipedia's Yeti entry.

One well publicized expedition to Bhutan reported that a hair sample had been obtained that, after DNA analysis by Professor Bryan Sykes, could not be matched to any known animal.[59] Analysis completed after the media release, however, clearly showed that the samples were from the Brown bear (Ursus arctos) and the Asiatic black bear (Ursus thibetanus). Chandler, H.C. (2003). Using Ancient DNA to Link Culture and Biology in Human Populations. Unpublished D.Phil. thesis. University of Oxford, Oxford.

Thirdly, the "president"of "bigfootology" a certain "interesting" gentleman named "Rhettman A. Mullis, Jr., MS, MHP "Academic and Field Researcher," ( had his first encounter at age ten, and once chased a female bigfoot through the woods for an hour. Imagine that. Cough, cough) says Sykes is already writing a book and will make three one hour documentaries, yet they haven't collected the specimens yet?? and they are reaching out to some hybrids??

Dr. Sykes is writing a book on the findings and their invitation for us to be a part of this project is the equivalent of having Dr. Stephen Hawkings ask to help identify a new star, or Einstein asking us to be a part of developing quantum-mechanic theories. We are honored and privileged to be included. So Dr. Sykes will write his book, but they are also filming a documentary that will be three one hour shows about the event. Soon we will be asking for DNA samples from all over the world and Bigfootology will assist in the accumulation of those samples. We are also in the process of reaching out to some known hybrid-offspring of human and Bigfoot joining. Because this work is being done by scientists using scientific method and Bigfootology being the only actual scientific organization, the outcomes will not be questioned or doubted critically, because the scientists involved are at the top of their field.

I think that he is a little confused and probably the book he is referring to is a new book by Sykes

Professor Sykes latest book DNA USA: A Genetic Portrait of America is now on sale in the US. It has already received excellent advanced reviews. ...
British geneticist Sykes, whose account of his discovery of the "clan mothers" of Europe The Seven Daughters of Eve (2001), became a bestseller, wondered what a genetic protrait of America would look like. He gamely embarked on a coast-to-coast DNA-collecting adventure and learned that the collision between genetics and people's sense of identity can be explosive. After cogently explaining how "the record of the past" is "written in DNA" and how it is interpreted, he presents startling findings about Native American ancestry, which stand in profound conflict with traditional beliefs and reopen old wounds. African Americans, by and large, have embraced the revelations of DNA as a remedy to the rupture and erasure of the slave trade, and Sykes was able to reconnect individuals with heretofore lost legacies rooted in specific African regions. ... Human genetics energetically elucidated, entertaining travel writing, the fascinating personal stories of DNA volunteers, and Sykes' candid musings on his awakening to the complex emotional and social implications of hidden biological inheritances make for a milestone book guaranteed to ignite spirtied discussion"

This has nothing to do with bigfoot.

Well, whatever, he's got to be a halfdozen steps up from whatever the last clown was who promised proof of bigfoot. I expect he will put a speedy end to this bigfoot is a modern human stuff. Which is what Meldrum wants.

 

[Jodie]

It's called "Bigfootology" now? I leave for two weeks and bigfoot world got a new name? I guess that is no different than styling oneself a "researcher" with no facts to base research on......bigfootoology=scientology, or mythology, or reflexology? Whatever "ology" you want to tack on to it does not denote validity. A pile of crap still smells whether you call it excrement, feces, or ****.

 

[DennyT]

It's called "Bigfootology" now? I leave for two weeks and bigfoot world got a new name? I guess that is no different than styling oneself a "researcher" with no facts to base research on......bigfootoology=scientology, or mythology, or reflexology? Whatever "ology" you want to tack on to it does not denote validity. A pile of crap still smells whether you call it excrement, feces, or ****.

It's just that one guy's "organization." There are many others that are similar.

 

[Jodie]

I think the less I know the better off I am, it is kind of painful to hear about it.