Bigfoot DNA

[DennyT]

Night Walker,

You must have missed it, but I said that there are skeptics on the board. Take a look at the rest.
Lars Thomas:

Lars Thomas is a Danish zoologist, cryptozoologist, author and translator who was born in Denmark’s capital city, Copenhagen. After graduating from the University of Copenhagen in 1986, with a degree in marine biology, Thomas specialized in fish morphology and has since analyzed fish artifacts from Danish and Greenlandic kitchen middens, a Scandinavian word for a location which domestic waste is dumped, as well as from the stomach contents of various fish eating animals. Though most of his writing is only available in Danish he has published articles in English for such publications as Strange Magazine, Fortean Times, Fortean Studies and Animals and Men. He has also published a study of Hans Egede’s original description of the Sea Serpent sighting, the same description on which Bernard Heuvelmans based his description of the Superotter.

Lars Thomas has traveled around the world conducting field research and searching for unknown creatures, including a 1990, seven person expedition which he organized and led called Operation Exmoor, which traveled to the south of Britain in search of the Exmoor Beast.

Paul LeBlond:

His leadership in the area of research into the enigma of the North Pacific Megaserpent, Cadborosaurus willsi, has resulted in extensive data being gathered on this animal. Along with Dr Edward Bousfield, Dr Leblond has authored Cadborosaurus: Survivor from the Deep (Horsdal and Schubert, 1995), the seminal work on this great cryptozoological marvel.

Dr Leblond resides on Galiano Island and is much-coveted speaker at many scientific and cryptozoological forums around the world. His rapier-sharp wit and gallic charm make a speaking engagement by this brilliant scientist a most enjoyable and informative experience.

Darren Naish:

“The huge number of ‘sea monster’ sightings now on record can’t all be explained away as mistakes, sightings of known animals or hoaxes,” said palaeontologist Dr Darren Naish of the University of Portsmouth.

“At least some of the better ones - some of them made by trained naturalists and such - probably are descriptions of encounters with real, unknown animals.”

Certainly by far the most important person is the editor... who actually calls the shots, who decides who is going to review the papers, who makes the actual decision to publish or not to publish.... :

Shuker is one of the leading cryptozoologists in the English speaking world. Some of his larger works include Mystery Cats of the World (1989), The Lost Ark: New and Rediscovered Animals of the 20th Century (1993; expanded in 2002 as The New Zoo), and In Search of Prehistoric Survivors (1995), as well as two worldwide bestsellers - Dragons: A Natural History (1995; reissued in 2006), and The Unexplained (1996; reissued in 2002).[3] Shuker also published Star Steeds and Other Dreams, a book of poetry which appeared in 2009.

etc etc

IMHO: A journal that has as its subjects animals that are not known to exist, and edited by a guy who is just a profiteer, is not going to publish scientific papers about animals. It's that simple.I would cite as an example the contents of the first issue of Meldrum's journal. Got skeptics on the board, doesn't he? and look what he publishes.

 

[Night Walker]

Thanks Parn.

What's the story of the International Society of Cryptozoology and their demise? Some of the best discussions on the Yowie took place in their journal in the late 80s (though now largely forgotten/ignored by internet-age Monster Hunters).

 

[skepticcat]

Contrarians beware!!!!

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

 

[Resume]

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

Get off my lawn.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

I'm all for that. Plus booze and hookers too. You get the best of both worlds that way.

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence.

What does this mean, exactly? This is just allegory.


"...and I shall use the mighty hammer of Thor upon thine forehead".

Welcome to JREF. You don't sound very skeptical. Matter of fact you got a lot of wishful thinking you need to explain. I'm all ears!

 

[BravesFan]

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

You are a skeptic yet you claim to come rub our faces in the "evidence". yeer just another loony foot bleever, please enjoy one of our parting gifts.......

 

[LTC8K6]

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

Care to document any of the above accusations?

Are you sure you couldn't find any reasonable discourse here?

Why are you insulting veterans and old people?

 

[River]

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

Do you still believe in the veracity of those DNA claims? I'm sure that main stream science will be very interested since this is "the real deal". I'm curious if you feel like this will validate a new species, or if you think its all hokey pokey.

 

[Correa Neto]

When this bigfoot DNA paper shows up to be the blunder, the fiasco that every piece of bigfoot evidence has shown to be untill now, I, for one, will not wipe footers' faces with yet another piece of evidence of how stupid bigfootery really is.

We've been doing this for years and its no longer half as fun as it was before.

Heck, footers have been doing this for much longer, since the whole bigfoot modern myth started. We just can't beat, for example, "Finding Bigfoot" on exposing how silly it actually is.

We can't beat the silliness of being always expecting to be vindicated at last by the brand new finding, by the knight in shining armor who will banish the heretic unbelievers.
Skookum cast, habituation claims, Memorial Day Film, Bulletmaker's bigfoot farm, GA Boyz, MIRP, Munns' report...
No, brother! Keep the faith! Be strong! It was not now, but soon the big one will arrive!

 

[TheJackal]

Why do you think there are snarky comments? Most of it is a function of the sideshow the Ketchum Hokum has created with their double secret DNA study. The daily teasers on Facebook, the refusal to respond to general questions because of the supposed embargo, the copyright filing for the new tribe of humans, and the pandering to the Foot community all scream puffery and hokum. True scientific research is not conducted like Barnum and Bailey, but as PT used to say, there is a sucker born every second. Bring that evidence back when it's released, and I am sure we will love to hear the arguments for Squatch existence.

 

[jhunter1163]

Do not personalize your arguments, and be civil and polite.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jhunter1163

 

[dafydd]

Ok, guys. As a skeptic myself, I come here and read up on what y'all think about the Bigfoot issue. All I find is complaining, name calling, bad mouthing, sarcastic blasting of everything about the subject. This has become a forum for snarky know-it-alls to post whatever vitriol they feel that day. How about being dignified, and professional?????!!!

When the DNA paper is reviewed and the evidence is released, I'm going to come back here and wipe your faces in the evidence. You aren't being skeptics, you are being grumpy old contrarians. If I wanted to listen to that, I'd go down to my local VA or and old folks home!!!!!

I love you guys, but sheeesh!!!!

The bigfoot believers sit up and beg for sarcasm. There will be no rubbing of young or elderly faces.

 

[The Shrike]

Potentially the greatest bigfoot post of all time has now been made in the BFF Ketchum thread, #3143. This "bigfoots-as-human" stuff has gotten so out of control, that this one concerned individual has advocated that we should educate the bigfoots, provide them with mobile hospitals, provision them with basic necessities like scissors (yes, scissors), and encourage Christian organizations to cater to their spiritual needs because their cruciform stick structures suggests that the "Sasquatch people" are Christians. Brilliant satire or bigfootery gone over the edge? I fear the latter.

 

[dafydd]

Potentially the greatest bigfoot post of all time has now been made in the BFF Ketchum thread, #3143. This "bigfoots-as-human" stuff has gotten so out of control, that this one concerned individual has advocated that we should educate the bigfoots, provide them with mobile hospitals, provision them with basic necessities like scissors (yes, scissors), and encourage Christian organizations to cater to their spiritual needs because their cruciform stick structures suggests that the "Sasquatch people" are Christians. Brilliant satire or bigfootery gone over the edge? I fear the latter.

And we are taken to task for making fun of Bigfoot believers? They do a great job themselves.

 

[Drewbot]

Here is the link directly to the post The Shrike is referring to;
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/7225-the-ketchum-report/page__view__findpost__p__568371

 

[DennyT]

Once again, comments on Ketchum's/Ramey's public page at facebook demonstrate that someone is unfamiliar with journals/peer review. I wonder how that could be?

 

[Drewbot]

umm.

 

[DennyT]

In case you wondered about how bigfoot can crossbreed (physically) with humans, the footers already have it covered.

 

[Deacondark]

In case you wondered about how bigfoot can crossbreed (physically) with humans, the footers already have it covered.

I think fantasizing about things like that actually accounts for 90% of the footers "thinking about bigfoot" time.

 

[The Shrike]

You've got to be kidding me. Ostman's ridiculous yarn as the basis for a discussion of penis size in bigfoots. "I'll retire to Bedlam!"