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I think we would have picked up on the poor grammar and spelling if that were the case.
 
TheJackal said:
I know it was mentioned in the podcast, but you have to wonder if the coauthors were not informed that their names were being used is there recourse to address any potential damage to your professional reputation? It is one thing to self inflict with this craziness, but to be an unsuspecting participant and to potentially realize damage to your credentials is a scary thought.
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Yes it is, and if it were me, I would go after her in a heart beat.
 
Jerrymander said:
Is Ketchum suggesting that humans bred with lemurs or just any prosimian? The latter did exist in NA.

Either way, its just dumb. A human breeding with a prosimian is about as plausible as a cat breeding with a dog.
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She talks about the lemur aspect of the DNA here: http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/03/listen-to-dr-melba-ketchum-talk-about.html#moretop

She doesn't explain how/where the mating occurred. My guess is one of the samples submitted was lemur hair, and Ketchum (DVM) is going with a 500lb Lemur Lothario seducing a lemur curious babe some +/- 15000 years ago.

ETA: Though Ketchum (DVM) continues to insist they're (Sasquatch) people.
 
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According to wiki: "Despite their size, the giant lemurs shared many features with living lemurs, including rapid development, poor day vision, relatively small brains, and lack of male dominance."

Doesn't sound like Bigfoot's dad contributed much to the mix.
 
You would have thought that if it was a hoax they would have done a better job of it at least. :\
 
TheJackal said:
I am feeling a new episode of Ancient Aliens and Bigfoot Part II coming up with Melba as the lead theorist on the episode. Let me mess my hair up and give this a whirl. Bigfoot is an alien-human hybrid genetically engineered 15,000 years ago to serve as the "Workers" for the various Pre-Columbian civilizations in the Americas. They were engineered to have massive size and strength to move the stones used in the construction of those various cultures. Once the civilizations collapsed, the "Workers" escaped into the jungles and forests of the Americas. They have an instinctive fear of humans, based upon years of mistreatment at the hands of humans during the construction of their temples, pyramids, etc. Chimera myths support the belief in the "Workers", and the cutting edge DNA work done by Ketchum is the keystone in the theory. I am sure I can find some cave drawings or statues to misinterpret to conclude that it is evidence of the "Workers". Heck, even the Nephilim in the Bible support this theory. This would explain the bizarre DNA and the human hybridization. Really, can it get any stranger than a giant Lemur ? Maybe, just maybe. This whole DNA thing is the gift that keeps giving.
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That's a SyFy channel movie script if I ever saw one!
 
clayflingythingy said:
The truly sad part is some posters on BFF are STILL holding out hope for the Ketchum hoax.

:jaw-dropp
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Yep, it looks as if some footers are now ready to wait five more years for Melba's hypothetical raw data :rolleyes:. I'm not really surprised; after all, isn't it how bigfootery always works?

PS: Hey! Ciao Parnassus and Tim! I have sincerely appreciated your posts. Thanks to both of you.
 
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TheJackal said:
I am feeling a new episode of Ancient Aliens and Bigfoot Part II coming up with Melba as the lead theorist on the episode. Let me mess my hair up and give this a whirl. Bigfoot is an alien-human hybrid genetically engineered 15,000 years ago to serve as the "Workers" for the various Pre-Columbian civilizations in the Americas. They were engineered to have massive size and strength to move the stones used in the construction of those various cultures. Once the civilizations collapsed, the "Workers" escaped into the jungles and forests of the Americas. They have an instinctive fear of humans, based upon years of mistreatment at the hands of humans during the construction of their temples, pyramids, etc. Chimera myths support the belief in the "Workers", and the cutting edge DNA work done by Ketchum is the keystone in the theory. I am sure I can find some cave drawings or statues to misinterpret to conclude that it is evidence of the "Workers". Heck, even the Nephilim in the Bible support this theory. This would explain the bizarre DNA and the human hybridization. Really, can it get any stranger than a giant Lemur ? Maybe, just maybe. This whole DNA thing is the gift that keeps giving.
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Well, it's there for the asking! :D
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/36891-the-ketchum-report-continued/page__st__980
post #994
"What I'm referring to is the growing opinion that there were civilizations of man more advanced than we to have lived on the Earth. Evidenced by many things we can't explain, or rather flimsily try too such as the pyramids, Nazca Lines, etc. Some people go the alien route, while some are beginning to go the route I bring up. Perhaps one of these civilizations created the chimera which is bigfoot?"
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Robin lynne Pfeipher Haynes addes 2 more names

It appears as if Our favorite secret editor of the De Novo Journal, and better known as melbas publicist, and most widely acclaimed as the blueberry lady, appears to have added new work to her resume.

After searching fruitlessly for weeks for "Casey Mullins" the supposed editor of the non existant "Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology" which even though it was non existant, apparently sold out to Melbas "De Novo" because of non existant peer reviews, and made up legal issues. That by the way is a way to log totuatously twisted sentence, I need an experienced editor to straighten that one out - any suggestion?

any way dear old casey was no where to be found. How does a professional editor of a peerr reviewed science journal have absolutely no presence in any search engine?

so, Since being questioned here and in other forums and other sources repeatedly on that issue, the Melba camp was very quite on the issue, Until this morning. , when Robin (IMHO) , rose from the ashes like a phoenix, and aparently declared herself to now be Casey Mullins, and went on a twitter rampage, defending Melba, and announcing her founding of a new society registered in the Bahamas devoted to supporting scientific research by non scientifically qualified liars ( i had to read between the lines to understand the last part of that)

https://twitter.com/mullins_casey

So heres the way it works, Robin casey Haynes pfeifer mullins lynne will read this here, raise the alarm with Melba, who will then direct her to go answer on twitter, but in a way that trys to respond to this critisism without actually citing the source!

You would think Robin would read this last part, and just to be sly, not take to twitter, but it's like a moth to flame, she can't help herself!

Hey Robin, why not recruit that family of Bigfoots to shovel snow for you? bury the bagels in the snow.

And just to be 100 % crystal clear. Melba released less than 1% of those data she claimed to have. The data she did release has been demonstrated to be exactly the same as the Smeja samples, Bear and human.
end of story.
And the supposed "second review of her data" was never done, and will never be done - exactly as i predicted within 45 minutes of Melba claiming that indeed a second review was under way!
CWB
 
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"...exactly as i predicted within 45 minutes of Melba claiming that indeed a second review was under way!"
CWB

CWB,

A number of seasoned BF watchers here on the JREF had this pegged as a fraud early on. :D

Cause, ya know, there ain't none of them there bigfoots in existence! :D
 
CWB, Casey Mullins has how many followers ? What's great is the lack of capitalization in the term "Editorial secretary of foundation". You would assume that an editor would know to capitalize their title .... outstanding.
 
clayflingythingy said:
"...exactly as i predicted within 45 minutes of Melba claiming that indeed a second review was under way!"
CWB

CWB,

A number of seasoned BF watchers here on the JREF had this pegged as a fraud early on. :D

Cause, ya know, there ain't none of them there bigfoots in existence! :D
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I was not refering in any way to whether BF exists or not. The point i am trying to make is that this is just another example, in a very long line of examples, where MK has demonstrably not told the truth.
That long list of "misspeaks" does indeed cast a bright light on her "science", but it does not prove or disprove the existance of Bigfoot.

And IMHO, we need to be careful about the use of the word fraud. One completely plausible explanation of her claims lies in her just being incapapble of understanding the results she got. That, in my book, is not fraud, it is incompetence.

Another possible interpritation, and IMHO the most likely, is that she simply tried to "shoehorn" whatever data she could understand, to try and support a pre existing "conclusion". That is not science, in fact it is the opposite of science, but not nessisarily fraud.

There is also of course the possibility of a complete fraud, but for me, i do not see that evidenceas of yet. i do however see clear evidence of her defrauding financial backers, but thats pretty darn hard to prove, and the only ones with any case there, are the individuals financially harmed by that fraud.

of course this is just my opinion, and i'm sure i wil get slammed by the true non believers here, those who do not have an open mind, nor understand the significance of the reality of the scientific method, which can in fact never prove the non existance of bigfoot!
 
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