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Bigfoot DNA

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Jerrymander said:
Looks like bigfooters may have to hope for the Ketchum study.
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LOL. Rare American black bear fur found in Russia and folks are screaming "Bigfoot"? This is a hoax, you idiots.

Not an escaped foreign bear terrorizing the neighborhood. It's a scam.
 
William Parcher said:
LOL. Rare American black bear fur found in Russia and folks are screaming "Bigfoot"? This is a hoax, you idiots.

Not an escaped foreign bear terrorizing the neighborhood. It's a scam.
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I take all BF anything as a scam first ~ But! This bear thing has the more logical explanation, let's say these people have been seeing something like a Yeti, we know yeti's don't exist so why not rule out a black bear, not native to the area at all, sure they got bears but do they act the same as a trained bear, standing up and making faces, playing with humans, it is logical ain't it.

Tim :)
 
It is not logical, rational nor reasonable to think that an escaped and tame American Black Bear is walking around Russia causing significant numbers of people to think and report that they are seeing a Yeti. All the while with nobody realizing that it is what it is, and also the owners might want it back.

These kinds of news stories out of Russia and China should be first met with the highest order of skepticism. First prove that the story isn't a complete fabrication from the very beginning...

LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Resume said:
So what if Smeja's sample doesn't (conveniently or not) match Ketchum's sequence?
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Ketchum has no out. She can't deny they match if they do, because that will come out, you can be sure of that. But, to avoid the appearance of hanky panky, it would be possible to bypass Ketchum and send it to the lab that did the sequencing for her.

If they don't actually match, then it may be Smeja's driver's or someone else. regardless, as the experts will tell you, it will still be plain ole human.
 
William Parcher said:
There may be truths, so to speak. The primary one is most ironic. It goes like this...


The longer that the world goes without Bigfoot confirmation the more people become convicted with their belief that it exists. The opposite is supposed to happen.

I'm partly basing this on the unmeasured observation that there are more Bigfoot believers now than there were 10 years ago. If that isn't true then I'll rethink this.

There are 2 different factors. The popularity of belief as a percentage of the total population. And the total number of believers.

The world population is always on increase so the total number of believers can rise steadily while the percentage of believers remains stable. I'm curious about what trends there are for those factors.

The passage of time has not caused Bigfoot belief to disappear.

With each passing year we have no confirmatory evidence.

With each passing year we have brand new faces declaring their conviction that Bigfoot exists. Last year, those same people would not have declared their conviction.

Bigfootery is not stopped by the passage of time. That is a "truth" about Bigfootery isn't it?
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Some of the early Bigfooters in the late 1950's and the 1960's, like Dahinden and Green, were quite optimistic that they were on the cusp of discovering the North American Ape. In their minds, they uncovered enough evidence and were "on the trail" and it was only a matter of short order time that the beast would be captured or killed. It is an example of tenacious faith that Green still thinks Bigfoot exists.

As to more and more people believing in Bigfoot: they are new converts because of the media they watch. It hasn't dawned on them that this sideshow has been playing on the midway since before they were born.
 
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I think Green is the same type of snake oil salesman as most bigfooters. He owns rights to the PGF in Canada and has aquired his "fame" through bigfoot hucksterism. Dahinden is another animal and it would not surprise me to find that he had given up on bigfoot as a real animal.
 
William Parcher said:
These kinds of news stories out of Russia and China should be first met with the highest order of skepticism. First prove that the story isn't a complete fabrication from the very beginning...

LOLOLOLOLOL
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You got that right and I don't believe any of that stuff, I am sure a bear is responsible for many BF sightings here and over there, whether it is escaped or not is another thing, let's remove the word Logical and replace it with Practical, that seems like it fits better to me.

Tim :)
 
jerrywayne said:
As to more and more people believing in Bigfoot: they are new converts because of the media they watch. It hasn't dawned on them that this sideshow has been playing on the midway since before they were born.
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I think you got that right on, I would have to say I was there myself, new kid on the block rehashing old info, as for Green and the old timers, I have this feeling that this new breed of footer hasn't learned a thing from their work, they also didn't produce the monkey so their work is not relevant in this day and age, the diehards just want anything BF they can get, if it ain't positive it's just in the way.

Tim :)
 
William Parcher said:
There may be truths, so to speak. The primary one is most ironic. It goes like this...


The longer that the world goes without Bigfoot confirmation the more people become convicted with their belief that it exists. The opposite is supposed to happen.

I'm partly basing this on the unmeasured observation that there are more Bigfoot believers now than there were 10 years ago. If that isn't true then I'll rethink this.

There are 2 different factors. The popularity of belief as a percentage of the total population. And the total number of believers.

The world population is always on increase so the total number of believers can rise steadily while the percentage of believers remains stable. I'm curious about what trends there are for those factors.

The passage of time has not caused Bigfoot belief to disappear.

With each passing year we have no confirmatorky evidence.

With each passing year we have brand new faces declaring their conviction that Bigfoot exists. Last year, those same people would not have declared their conviction.

Bigfootery is not stopped by the passage of time. That is a "truth" about Bigfootery isn't it?
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Bigfootery has an inherent problem with the truth, it keeps getting in the way of dealing with reality. The reality is Bigfoot doesn't exist and they cannot bring them selfs to admit it.

The only truths that are guaranteed in the realm of bigfootery is greed, gullibility, culpability of the conveyance of the perceived truth.
 
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SmithfromOkla said:
Bigfootery has an inherent problem with the truth, it keeps getting in the way of dealing with reality. The reality is Bigfoot doesn't exist and the cannot bring them selfs to admit it.

The only truths that are guaranteed in the realm of bigfootery is greed, gullibility, culpability of the conveyance of the perceived truth.
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Hi

Welcome to the JREF

Have you had any experience with the footers?

I am an old bff forum member myself along with a few other BF forums, I have given up on the thought of BF and have focused on the people involved, the greed and ego stuff along with the drama and just craziness of it all.

Tim ~ :)
 
Let me introduce myself I am Ed Smith of MaBRC fame or infamy depending on which side you are on at that certian forum. So yes I have had experience with footers.
 
It isn't faith that makes good science, Mr.Smith, it's curiosity. Sit down, please. There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.

So many have claimed to see this thing, why do you think BF does not exist?

Tim ~
 
GT/CS said:
Let's make sure this thread doesn't go completely off-topic.
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You are right ~ how about we pick this up in the Follies Thread? We just got this DNA thread thing back under control didn't we, don't need another derail from outside or inside again :(

Sorry guys you know how I like to play along.

Tim :)
 
RedRatSnake said:
It isn't faith that makes good science, Mr.Smith, it's curiosity. Sit down, please. There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you.

So many have claimed to see this thing, why do you think BF does not exist?

Tim ~
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Fifty plus years nothing of value for evidence and thousands of sighting reports all flawed in one way or another. No body(s) No parts of body (s) no photos no film no hair that con be labeled BF no tracks that can be attributed to BF with any verifyible certainty no no no none.

Bigfoot is not real. It is a product of an unstable segment of society known as footers in a land called Bigfootville.

RRS ask questions, there needs to be a discussion about the past weeks months years, BTW the discussion has been quashed at the BFF.

The only question in my mind is which thread should this take place?
 
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