Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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Marduk is the ugly one. .
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I'm the one with the funny hat.

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Zack Hamilton saw one and took a picture. But it takes an old new dude to bring out the details. The poster "AtlantiS" joined BFF on Feb 20, 2007 and has only made 28 posts. I guess it was worth waiting for all of his posts.

Then you have "Digger44" who is another sleeper poster who joined on Feb 28, 2007 and has only made 30 posts. He makes a big detailed post on the Yeti DNA thing.

Weird.
 

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The actual 'story' of that Bert's Bigfoot Suit Rental™ photo is only a little bit more interesting than it suggests in that the producers/purveyors of it are notorious BF 'celebrities'. In my formerly nicotine stained fingers is a an actual Dec/73 issue of Saga™ magazine (60 cents) which contains the article where that famous 'I-didn't-believe-it-was-a-photo-of-a-real-Bigfoot-then-and-I-was-only-12-in-1973' photo was initially unveiled to the public. Its parents were none other than Ivan Marx and Tom Biscardi. Such a surprise! Two Bigfoot knuckleheads. The necessary, but misleading title of the article is 'THE MOST SENSATIONAL BIGFOOT PICTURES EVER TAKEN!'. There are actually two PBF (Purported Bigfoot™) pictures in the story, shown below.

Some selected quotes (in the story) by Tom 'BS Isn't Just For Bulls Anymore' Biscardi:

  • "Ivan Marx took those early one morning, near dawn. He shot them at 280 yards with a telephoto lens."
  • "You're looking at the clearest pictures of a Sasquatch ever taken."
  • "You take Patterson and his movie. The man had experts view it and analyze it. He was getting too close - and he was struck down."
Wha?

Independent of the CTs and the 'clear photos', the article is as if it were written yesterday (at least in the context of Bigfoot). Or maybe more like what was written yesterday is the same as this stuff written 36 years ago. It's sooo funny to me that whatever Bigfoot is, in the last 36 years it's yet to become even a molecule 'clearer' than it was in 1973. Amazing! And that's with Tom Biscardi 'on the case' the entire time.
 

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Responding to a post of Melissa's from the MRP thread here where it is appropriate...

Part of the reason for that would be mainly due to reports of sightings or whatnot in these types of areas. Yes, our group went to Salt Fork, but we were honest about that. Yes, there were other researchers in the area, but we were honest about that. Yes, we collected audio and tracks, but we were honest about that and have not called any of these items collected proof of the animals existence in Salt Fork State park, and we have not asked for the world to offer an opinion as to what the evidence is that we collected. We have not even uploaded the audio for discussion or debate. The audio is most likely other researchers, which we said. Big difference in how we handled ourselves.

And yet Billy Willard clearly indicated that your group felt they had the track of a littlefoot. He never "what I think it is", rather, "what we think it is."

I can not say this enough. I am a bigfoot researcher. People may find that silly or whatever, but responding to witness sightings is what I do, regardless of where the sighting happened (within reason). I will not investigate a sighting at the local Walmart in isle 9. :)

The 23 square mile recreational Salt Fork State Park in Ohio is not within reason as a place for Bigfoot to be existing unconfirmed by modern science. It's every bit as silly as aisle 9 at Walmart. Aisle 9 is not reasonable because there are people everywhere. SFSP is just as ludicrous. There are people everywhere and massive wood apes making a niche for themselves where even bears do not in a manicured McPark is foo foo talk.

In fact, scratch that. Walmart is a far better place for Bigfoot to blend in.

John has not provided me with "evidence" of an encounter. John has provided me with information about an encounter he states he has had. I analyze statements different from actual evidence (which is the proper way of handling information witnesses) I do not know what John seen that day. I think he did in fact see something, what he seen for sure, I do not know because I was not there.

I believe John did see something that shook him to the core. But, I have never even told John that I "believe he seen a bigfoot". I believe he had an encounter of some kind, what exactly I can not say. That is as honest as I can be.

But you know, John does not need or want me to "believe" him. He would rather I have a sighting of my own. I think that will be his vindication. :)

1) I may not know what John did or didn't see, but I can say with all confidence he did not see a 9x6 ft behemoth sasquatch. I can say that because there is no such thing. I can say it just like I can say it for someone who says they saw Jesus, a Grey, whatever. Why can I say they don't exist? Because if there were giant wood apes roaming about in Ohio, North Carolina, etc, they would be confirmed as one of the largest North American fauna. They don't get to be special and screw with everything we know about biology, zoology, etc.

2) I really want to help you with just a little thing, Melissa. What is the object that can be seen here?
 
1) I may not know what John did or didn't see, but I can say with all confidence he did not see a 9x6 ft behemoth sasquatch. I can say that because there is no such thing. I can say it just like I can say it for someone who says they saw Jesus, a Grey, whatever. Why can I say they don't exist? Because if there were giant wood apes roaming about in Ohio, North Carolina, etc, they would be confirmed as one of the largest North American fauna. They don't get to be special and screw with everything we know about biology, zoology, etc.

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You can say what you THINK I did or did not see, but you cannot prove that I am lying anymore then I can prove I am not. You want to pay for a lie detector test? Drop the money down and I will be there. Who made you my moral compass? You get your jollies from calling people names on a internet message board. Please keep my name out of your conversations.
 
You can say what you THINK I did or did not see, but you cannot prove that I am lying anymore then I can prove I am not. You want to pay for a lie detector test? Drop the money down and I will be there. Who made you my moral compass? You get your jollies from calling people names on a internet message board. Please keep my name out of your conversations.

Easy now. I did not say you were lying. Nor did I call you or anyone else names. I said though I do not know what you did or did not see, I am confident you did not see a 9x6ft sasquatch in North Carolina. I will surely never know what you did or didn't see back in 1982. It isn't much of a mystery to me. I don't need to prove you are lying about saying you saw Bigfoot. I don't know if you are or not. I can point to the no Bigfoots in America, Canada, or anywhere else in the world to assure me you did not see Bigfoot. I can point to people who swear they saw Reptoids, Jesus, Greys, whatever and again point out the no Reptoids, Jesus, or Greys anywhere.

Bigfoot does not exist in North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio or anywhere else because it is a myth. Real animals are not myths. Real animals we can examine and study. There is no precedent ever for a massive land mammal living across a continent in two of the world's most industrialized nations without a type specimen. People believing they saw something that does not exist is very easy to explain. Bigfoot is real but no type specimen is not.

Chupacabra is winning.
 
Attention Dogswitcher Fan Club members....


Tom Burnette has just created a video of himself describing his Bigfoot encounters. He will show you some pictures and you get an invitation to come visit and stay in the cabin on his property - but only if you have a gentle spirit. Macho types stay away. Nobody likes that including Bigfoot.

"they will disable a frog..." says the Dogswitcher when mentioning the behavior of his resident Bigfoots.
 

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Attention Dogswitcher Fan Club members....


Tom Burnette has just created a video of himself describing his Bigfoot encounters. He will show you some pictures and you get an invitation to come visit and stay in the cabin on his property - but only if you have a gentle spirit. Macho types stay away. Nobody likes that including Bigfoot.

"they will disable a frog..." says the Dogswitcher when mentioning the behavior of his resident Bigfoots.

Oh Sweet Zombie Jesus.

I always thought this was him calling in on the various Bigfoot blogtalk shows. If Johnny Wintercrack there rolled up to me in his ride, I'd run till my shoes fell off. :boxedin:
 
Dogswitcher video highlights...

- Picture of a bear's ass.

- "If you do the research into Gigantopithesis, the hands and the feet are exactly the same."

- Huge pixel photo could-not-even-be-called-pareidolia Teaberryeagle-style insanity.

- "I always refuse the frog."

- "They found out I like feathers."

- "I will take you on a guided tour into the mountains, but don't bring any guns." :boxedin:

- "We want people who are interested in some of the mysteries in life."

Umm... Mr. Dogswitcher, would one of those mysteries involve putting lotion in a basket?
 
You can say what you THINK I did or did not see, but you cannot prove that I am lying anymore then I can prove I am not. You want to pay for a lie detector test? Drop the money down and I will be there. Who made you my moral compass? You get your jollies from calling people names on a internet message board. Please keep my name out of your conversations.

Neither kitakaze nor anyone else here has ever called you a liar. You maintain you saw a creature that simply cannot exist according to everything we know about North American forestry and zoology... but that doesn't mean you're lying.

Hallucination is a known, studied and documented phenomenon, and your written account of your sighting is typical of dream-state hallucinations experienced by otherwise normal, healthy and sane people the world over (including kitakaze, by his own admission, and my wife!).

That you refuse to acknowledge this scientifically valid phenomenon as descriptive of your experience indicates an unwillingness to let go of an emotion-based belief system... but it does not mean you're lying.
 
Attention Dogswitcher Fan Club members....


Tom Burnette has just created a video of himself describing his Bigfoot encounters. He will show you some pictures and you get an invitation to come visit and stay in the cabin on his property - but only if you have a gentle spirit. Macho types stay away. Nobody likes that including Bigfoot.

"they will disable a frog..." says the Dogswitcher when mentioning the behavior of his resident Bigfoots.

since i am a female, do i qualify as non-macho? (i guess mentioning my time in the military might make me less than a gentle spirit.)
disable the poor frogs? i am against this completely!
what if bigfoot tries to disable me? do i stand there and wait for it, or shoot to kill? hmmm, so many decisions so little time. :D
 
Neither kitakaze nor anyone else here has ever called you a liar. You maintain you saw a creature that simply cannot exist according to everything we know about North American forestry and zoology... but that doesn't mean you're lying.

Everything YOU know. I am quite sure that there are members of Fish & Game who have seen things that simply do not fit into known zoology.
 
This could certainly be mis-identified as a bigfoot. Wait for the 2nd half of the video. Absolutely amazing.

BTW, the mosquito is part of the video; it's not buzzing your head.
 
I was driving down a country road late on a foggy night when I saw something about seven feet high shambling along the opposite edge of the road, coming in my direction. It was a kind of dark brown, and it had a weird, tiny head for its height.

Then something clicked and I saw that it was a guy with a kid riding on his shoulders. They had a long dark raincoat draped over the kid's shoulders and hanging down open, framing the guy's face. But for a second there--well, you know.

I've had enough misperceptions, including a contrail at sunset that, for several seconds, looked like a metallic flying saucer seen edge on, that I have to attribute a lot of sightings of bigfoot, lake monsters, UFO's ghosts or whatever to people simply misinterpreting something else that they saw. I would also note that every hunting season in Colorado, there is at least one incident of a hunter shooting a moose because he thought it was an elk. Moose and elk resemble each other only in that both are big and brown (and very different shades of brown, and a moose is quite a bit bigger), have four legs, and the males of both species have antlers (but radically different antlers). If somebody can think a moose is an elk, I have no difficulty with the idea that somebody can think a bear is a bigfoot.
 
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This could certainly be mis-identified as a bigfoot. Wait for the 2nd half of the video. Absolutely amazing.

BTW, the mosquito is part of the video; it's not buzzing your head.

It's interesting. Before watching that video, I "knew" that bears rarely walked bipedally, and were pretty clumsy when doing so. It looks like it was one of those things that I know that ain't so.
 
It's interesting. Before watching that video, I "knew" that bears rarely walked bipedally, and were pretty clumsy when doing so. It looks like it was one of those things that I know that ain't so.

Most bears probably are clumsy when walking on 2 lets but since this one lost a foot it probably found that walking on 2 legs easier than walking on 3.

I wonder if the cub will learn that behavior, pass it on, and in a few dozen generations we'll have hundreds or thousands of bears walking on 2 legs. That would create quite a spike in bigfoot sightings.
 
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