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Being a racist while having a soft skull

I don't disagree, nor do I think the world is much worse off without Floyd, who held a gun to a pregnant woman in a home invasion.

"According to court records in Harris County, which encompasses Floyd’s hometown of Houston, authorities arrested him on nine separate occasions between 1997 and 2007, mostly on drug and theft charges that resulted in months-long jail sentences."

Not all the crimes resulted in prison time, but rather jail sentences; no evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant;

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/
 
Then we covered variations of it just a couple of days ago.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying the other day. I didn't imply that the insult cullennz used for Pujols was racist. It wasn't a variation. I just couldn't remember the weird ass insult he used because it wasn't one that wasn't common in US English. I just want that clarified. It was odd, not racist.

I don't disagree, nor do I think the world is much worse off without Floyd, who held a gun to a pregnant woman in a home invasion.

You're absolutely welcome to think that and should anyone have any objections to it, they're totally welcome to call you out on it. I find the two situations to not be comparable at all. That's just me.

Whether it was alleged or not, a racial slur isn't justification for physical assault. I've been called racial slurs before, that doesn't mean I can draw my gun and kill them out of anger.

Ok, sure. I haven't really seen anyone imply different, but I don't have a lot of arguments here.

Posters are expressing glee about the death of one scumbag, my question was whether it was inappropriate to feel glee for the death of another scumbag.

Feel glee all you want. Go in the Floyd thread and express, in no uncertain terms, that you're pleased at the fact Floyd is dead because he was a criminal. Have a blast.
 
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"According to court records in Harris County, which encompasses Floyd’s hometown of Houston, authorities arrested him on nine separate occasions between 1997 and 2007, mostly on drug and theft charges that resulted in months-long jail sentences."

Not all the crimes resulted in prison time, but rather jail sentences; no evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant;

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/

Great point. So lets assume she wasn't pregnant.
 
Feel glee all you want. Go in the Floyd thread and express, in no uncertain terms, that you're pleased at the fact Floyd is dead because he was a criminal. Have a blast.

I am actually not pleased that Floyd is dead. He was convicted, tried, and punished for what he did in 2007, and then he was murdered, and denied due process in 2020.

I'm pointing out the racist double standard that martyrs a black home invader like Floyd, but condemns a white (alleged) racist and pedophile.
 
I think you misunderstood what I was saying the other day. I didn't imply that the insult cullennz used for Pujols was racist. It wasn't a variation. I just couldn't remember the weird ass insult he used because it wasn't one that wasn't common in US English. I just want that clarified. It was odd, not racist.

:thumbsup: No worries.
 
No problem. Just make sure that you fact check in future, before posting right-wing, racist memes.

Sure thing, just as soon as you figure out that whether the allegation that George Floyd's home invasion victim (her name is Aracely Henriquez) was pregnant or not is irrelevant to the fact that Floyd committed an armed home invasion robbery with a gang of five other men, that ended up with her being injured as a result, as well as numerous other crimes for which he was convicted.

I guess neither one of us will be holding our breath.
 
If anyone needs a lecture on relevance it’s the guy who brought it up to begin with.
 
Sure thing, just as soon as you figure out that whether the allegation that George Floyd's home invasion victim (her name is Aracely Henriquez) was pregnant or not is irrelevant to the fact that Floyd committed an armed home invasion robbery with a gang of five other men, that ended up with her being injured as a result, as well as numerous other crimes for which he was convicted.

This has bugger-all to do with the thread.
 
Interesting.

You were active in the Chauvin/Floyd thread.

In that thread Skeptic Tank specifically said that it was a good thing that Floyd was dead. Repeatedly.

You didn't respond to that. You didn't admonish him. You didn't feel that that statement deserved a response. A statement of positive emotion at the brutal murder of a black man did not elicit a response from you.

Yet when SuburbanTurkey expressed some level of positive emotion of a death of a racist, you immediately, in the very next post, just had to say something. A statement of positive emotion toward the death of a racist was a statement that you just had to respond to with admonishment.

As I say, interesting.

This is exactly the issue that I replied to earlier. I disagree pretty strongly with basically everything SkepticTank says. I've seldom interacted with him though, because I don't see any point in doing so. Plenty of other people are making clear his errors, so what good would come from my adding to the chorus?

There's plenty of racism out there in the world, and as Belz pointed out to me, discussions on this board are about the racism out there, but they don't actually address it. My (or Ron Obvious) quoting SkepticTank and writing a post about how wrong he is, isn't likely to do much good, either to change his mind or anyone else's. If no one else were responding to him, I might think it was worthwhile to do so, but everything worth saying has actually been said. This is what I meant by the distinction between the problem of racism on this forum and racism in the world: the racist posters are actually having their arguments countered, there's no hole there to fill. Whereas if I'm out with friends and one of them makes a racist remark, I'll probably start arguing with them because there's no one else already doing it.

The problem of SkepticTank's racism is actually being adequately addressed here. Not feeling the need to reply to it isn't actually a sign of racism.
 
It annoys me to death that we only get partial stories with a ton of assumption and innuendo anymore, and rarely follow up or clarifications. Media is becoming more of a rumor mill every day.

Sorry but it used to be so much worse, you simply wouldn’t hear anything in the newspapers or on TV and radio after the event to refute any of the innuendo, assumptions and rumours in initial reports.

The “journalism” media has always chased the headlines to be first at breaking a story and the sensational has always lead. Today we have access to so much more, and often you can find a whole slew of follow-ups away from the mainstream. Indeed this forum often has such follow-ups.
 
Sorry but it used to be so much worse, you simply wouldn’t hear anything in the newspapers or on TV and radio after the event to refute any of the innuendo, assumptions and rumours in initial reports.

The “journalism” media has always chased the headlines to be first at breaking a story and the sensational has always lead. Today we have access to so much more, and often you can find a whole slew of follow-ups away from the mainstream. Indeed this forum often has such follow-ups.

Which in most cases can be quite helpful.

In this one not so much.

Young fit dude hits 50 years older dude in the head for calling him alleged names with no evidence apart from punchers word is basically it.

Some people think it's warranted for some reason.

Personally find it odd, but not American, so don't get the seemingly instant aggro some of them seem to think breaks some kind of code or something, if it is certain words which apparently justify it.
 
This is exactly the issue that I replied to earlier. I disagree pretty strongly with basically everything SkepticTank says. I've seldom interacted with him though, because I don't see any point in doing so. Plenty of other people are making clear his errors, so what good would come from my adding to the chorus?

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The problem of SkepticTank's racism is actually being adequately addressed here. Not feeling the need to reply to it isn't actually a sign of racism.

Because this isn't a game where the losing side gets a handicap to keep the score being a blowout.

"Plenty of people are telling the racists he is racist, I'll assume the role of 'Making sure people are too mean to the racist'" isn't how reality works.
 
Because this isn't a game where the losing side gets a handicap to keep the score being a blowout.

"Plenty of people are telling the racists he is racist, I'll assume the role of 'Making sure people are too mean to the racist'" isn't how reality works.

There's still no point in repeating the same arguments everybody else have already made. Skeptic Tank is not going to turn anyone here into a racist even if we didn't address any of his posts.
 
I called him a thug for punching someone 50 years older than him in the head

Right, and if a one-time, lost-temper action like that is enough to call a guy a thug, then I don’t see why the use of a racial slur on somebody while pissed off should not be enough to call a guy a racist.
 

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