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Being a racist while having a soft skull

Ron Obvious said:
Amazing.
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What's amazing to me is this weird expectation that people should have thoughts that are always nice, and that anything else is "bad".

I see no issue with wishing evil upon evil, or being glad when it happens. That does not necessarily translate into support for those who committed said evil.
 
Belz... said:
What's amazing to me is this weird expectation that people should have thoughts that are always nice, and that anything else is "bad".

I see no issue with wishing evil upon evil, or being glad when it happens. That does not necessarily translate into support for those who committed said evil.
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And now the victim was "evil", seriously?

I said something about witchburners in another discussion and got dinged for it, but I can see I was right on the mark.
 
Ron Obvious said:
And now the victim was "evil", seriously?
I said something about witchburners in another discussion and got dinged for it, but I can see I was right on the mark.
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Pujols is now a...whatever weird ass description cullennz used, after this one incident. I didn't see any contestations then. What's up with that?
 
Ron Obvious said:
Amazing.
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Interesting.

You were active in the Chauvin/Floyd thread.

In that thread Skeptic Tank specifically said that it was a good thing that Floyd was dead. Repeatedly.

You didn't respond to that. You didn't admonish him. You didn't feel that that statement deserved a response. A statement of positive emotion at the brutal murder of a black man did not elicit a response from you.

Yet when SuburbanTurkey expressed some level of positive emotion of a death of a racist, you immediately, in the very next post, just had to say something. A statement of positive emotion toward the death of a racist was a statement that you just had to respond to with admonishment.

As I say, interesting.
 
I'm still only taking the 'slur' defense as provisional. Not quite enough yet to demonize some old man.

I mean, we still only have the killers word, right? It's not out of the question for Pujols to present a self-serving story (the old guy called him a m-fer or something and he took some creative license to score some sympathy.

Surely we don't usually take a killer's version of events at face value so willingly, do we?
 
JoeMorgue said:
Interesting.

You were active in the Chauvin/Floyd thread.

In that thread Skeptic Tank specifically said that it was a good thing that Floyd was dead. Repeatedly.

You didn't respond to that. You didn't admonish him. You didn't feel that that statement deserved a response. A statement of positive emotion at the brutal murder of a black man did not elicit a response from you.

Yet when SuburbanTurkey expressed some level of positive emotion of a death of a racist, you immediately, in the very next post, just had to say something. A statement of positive emotion toward the death of a racist was a statement that you just had to respond to with admonishment.

As I say, interesting.
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Repetitive.
 
Thermal said:
I'm still only taking the 'slur' defense as provisional. Not quite enough yet to demonize some old man.

I mean, we still only have the killers word, right? It's not out of the question for Pujols to present a self-serving story (the old guy called him a m-fer or something and he took some creative license to score some sympathy.

Surely we don't usually take a killer's version of events at face value so willingly, do we?
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Presumably there are witnesses. This isn't the Zimmerman case where a grown man gets into a fight with a child and only one person lives to tell the tale. The ability to tell self-serving lies seems pretty limited.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Interesting.

You were active in the Chauvin/Floyd thread.

In that thread Skeptic Tank specifically said that it was a good thing that Floyd was dead. Repeatedly.
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I posted once or twice in that thread, but wasn't really active. I think I mentioned that the level of fentanyl in Floyd's stem might lead to "reasonable doubt".

I didn't think there was a point in admonishing Skeptic Tank considering his posting history, but I see now that there are a several people in this discussion who are on the exact same moral plane as him. If the old man had been black and the young man white, I suspect he would have posted the exact same thing about how happy he was about the outcome and what a shame it was that the young man had to go to prison for it.

That's what some of you have become.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Presumably there are witnesses. This isn't the Zimmerman case where a grown man gets into a fight with a child and only one person lives to tell the tale. The ability to tell self-serving lies seems pretty limited.
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It annoys me to death that we only get partial stories with a ton of assumption and innuendo anymore, and rarely follow up or clarifications. Media is becoming more of a rumor mill every day.
 
Belz... said:
But oddly accurate.
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Well I haven't, and won't, fact check it simply because where some may see

"words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words. "

All I see, more often than not, is..

"Racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist!
 
Thermal said:
It annoys me to death that we only get partial stories with a ton of assumption and innuendo anymore, and rarely follow up or clarifications. Media is becoming more of a rumor mill every day.
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You should march into the press office and let them know your displeasure. But gently and mind your manners, we see how some uppity customers can be treated in the Sunshine State. ;)
 
bluesjnr said:
Well I haven't, and won't, fact check it simply because where some may see

"words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words. "

All I see, more often than not, is..

"Racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist!
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Calm down, sir.
 
bluesjnr said:
Well I haven't, and won't, fact check it simply because where some may see

"words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words, words. "

All I see, more often than not, is..

"Racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist!
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"Sir this is a Wendy's."
 
Thermal said:
I'm still only taking the 'slur' defense as provisional. Not quite enough yet to demonize some old man.

I mean, we still only have the killers word, right? It's not out of the question for Pujols to present a self-serving story (the old guy called him a m-fer or something and he took some creative license to score some sympathy.

Surely we don't usually take a killer's version of events at face value so willingly, do we?
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Occam's Razor. You do you, but Occam's Razor.

Pujols story has been out now for a week, there were plenty of employees in the store, and not a single one has refuted Pujols claim.

I see no reason why he would lie about just that considering it doesn't really help his case much, does it? He isn't getting a different\lower charge because of it. He didn't get lower bail because of it. In fact, you could change that "racist" word out with any other word and it doesn't change the charges at all. So, as you say, if it's to score sympathy it certainly doesn't seem to be working. Unless you think that Pujols gives a **** what a bunch of random people he doesn't know think about what he did.
 
Hey if trespassing is enough to get you running people down with cars and trucks why is suddenly trespassing while threatening people suddenly not a big deal? Aside from the obvious of course.

If only the old man could have run a bit faster and jinked he would still be alive.
 
Belz... said:
He was doing something evil at the time. You don't think racism is an evil?

(Evil as in: it does harm to others)
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Assuming the incident was as described, absolutely. He was asking for it. But a guy in his 20's punching a guy in his 70's in the face has to know the potentially lethal risk. I have no problem with some elderly, Jew-hating NOI scumbag not living anymore. I do have a problem if he/she's killed by a 20 something guy in retaliation for a racist insult.
 
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