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Being a racist while having a soft skull

SuburbanTurkey said:
Again, I would likewise be happy if something truly accidental had killed this POS. Had he got hit by a bus I would likewise be gloating, but I would not consider myself an advocate of traffic accidents.

Sometimes bad things happen to bad people and you just have to cherish the little gifts.

I'm touched you single me out on advocating violence, but that's being a bit stingy towards other members. There was a long running thread debating the merits of punching nazis.
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Didn't single you out. You just happened to have a conveniently-available post that illustrates my point.

And I would consider you to be advocating political violence, even deadly violence, by whatever means you think you could get away with.
 
Belz... said:
Consistently, however, which raises questions.
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Messing around I can believe. "Just" messing around, not so much. Explicitly advocating illegal acts gets you insta-banned here. But it's no accident that ST and others are consistently as close to that line as possible without crossing it.
 
plague311 said:
A comment with regards to the trespassing. I'd assume it's a legal grey area.

This wasn't just a Dunkin Donuts building. It was a gas station with a Dunkin Donuts counter\drive-thru. Just because Dunkin asked him to leave does not mean he couldn't be on the premises, just that they wouldn't be serving him. At this point, there's nothing to at all to say the older man was trespassing. Read the article, it states the setup in the article I linked.
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Even if the mini-mart thingy and the Dunkin were combined, the manager could have still had the authority to tell the man to leave. And if he had other purchases, then to tell the man to buy his things and leave.
 
Belz... said:
Only slightly more extreme than charging a manslaughter offender with murder.
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There's not much difference between manslaughter and murder. I don't actually think it's felony murder in this case - that was me entirely "messing around", as ST might say. But consider this: Deaths that occur during the commission of a felony are counted as murder. Certainly attempted manslaughter is a felony.

Fortunately the legal system is not a system of formal logic.
 
theprestige said:
We don't even like the death penalty for murderers. "Less racism" doesn't seem like a good reason to celebrate someone's death at the hands of another.
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I'm not celebrating the death of someone at the hands of another. I'm just celebrating someone's death.

A bit disproportional, sure, but evil happening upon evil people is sweet to me.
 
Fighting words.

Tresspassing. I had a long conversation with a prosecuting attorney after serving as a jury foreman on a trespassing case, and this case meets the requirements of trespassing as the old man was asked to leave.

Breach of the peace, don't be using no racial slurs in public, please.

Put me on the jury, something will be hung.
 
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theprestige said:
No.

He got snuffed out because the cashier couldn't resist the urge to repay words with physical violence.

As abhorrent as the victim may be, his death was not his fault.
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Neither is it fully the fault of the cashier then, as he didn't plan this murder, and in the heat of the moment he felt he had to react violently, probably based on his upbringing and life experiences, just as the old man felt he had to be confrontational with his racist outburst instead of resisting his urge.
 
plague311 said:
Sibrel asked Aldrin to come there under the guise of filming an interview for a Japanese children's show. Then poked him repeatedly with a bible, and harassed him.
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[aside]

And the result was...

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(Sorry, just had to share this again. Its so satisfying to see Sibrel get exactly what he had coming to him)


PhantomWolf said:
No, you are incorrect. This is not the definition of Felony Murder.
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Indeed.

Felony Murder is a broadening of murder, not a means of turning manslaughter into murder. When an offender kills in the commission of a crime such as an armed robbery or a home invasion, and one of the offenders kills someone or even if one of the offenders is killed, the accomplices, may be found guilty of felony murder. Even someone who planned the crime and wasn't even at the scene can be charged with felony murder.
 
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The OP can cheer this on, but it’s obviously murder (or at the very least manslaughter).

So one person dead, one person jailed for the best part of his life. One amused Suburban Turkey.

Not the optimal outcome is it?
 
Pujols might be able to use Florida State Statute 782.03 as a defence

782.03 Excusable homicide
Homicide is excusable when committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent, or by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, without any dangerous weapon being used and not done in a cruel or unusual manner.​
 
PhantomWolf said:
No, you are incorrect. This is not the definition of Felony Murder.
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Fair enough. It's not a hill I intend to fight on. I'd almost fight on the "political violence is bad and should be condemned" hill, but we had that fight already in the "nazis" thread. This is just the same people signaling the same "virtue" as before.
 
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