plague311
Great minds think...
Gee...who also uses that term? I can't quite put my finger on it. Chunky guy, falls asleep a lot, terrible comb over...man. I just can't quite come up with it. It's on the tip of my tongue.
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Gee...who also uses that term? I can't quite put my finger on it. Chunky guy, falls asleep a lot, terrible comb over...man. I just can't quite come up with it. It's on the tip of my tongue.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
How Farage’s response to racism claims is straight out of Trump’s populist playbook
Reform UK leader’s legal threats, denials and attacks on the media are tactics often deployed by US president
www.theguardian.com
You asked for evidence, which was provided, and then you say "so what?".
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist
How very Trump-like.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Yes... all ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊-well geared towards ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊-well achieving the FIRST ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ STATED PRINCIPLE - a world without ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ borders!
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Maybe I don't find that evidence... convincing!
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smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
I was using the term "Loony Left" when you were still in nappies, and The Fat Orange Prolapsed Anus was dodging the draft by claiming bone spurs
(incidentally, The Fat Orange Turd doesn't use that term, he calls them the "radical left")
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plague311
Great minds think...
Congratulations for being old. Should that mean something? I've never seen you use it around here until recently. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence though. I'm so forgetful. It appears the term was first ever recorded in 1977, you must have been the first one to use it, eh?
Yet you two still find yourselves using the same verbiage to describe those who disagree with you. Isn't that something?
Completely different I'm sure. The pedant complaining about the pedantic. c'est la vie
plague311
Great minds think...
Ok, you'll have to point out the "FIRST ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ STATED PRINCIPLE" because I quoted from the actual list and here's an image to the link you shared:
I'm not seeing any stated principle above the words "1. Implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration". I'm seeing "fair and humane alternative" and something about treating all migrants like "potential" citizens but nothing about "a world without ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ borders".
I'm sure it's a problem on my end though. Perhaps you shared the wrong link, or the website is different in America and the screen that you see that pops up in your area starts with "a world without ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ borders" but I'm just not seeing it. I'm sure you'll easily point out where I am making the mistake though.
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smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Really? I mean really? ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ unbelievable!! You looked at the link I provided, and you don't know how to SCROLL DOWN!!
Here are the principles YOU completely ignored and are trying to pretend do not exist.. This is on the page I linked to, that YOU quoted from - all you had to do was SCROLL DOWN!!!!!
NOTE: Screenshot at the bottom of the post for those who donlt know how to scroll a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ webpage
FIRST PART OF THE FIRST STATED PRINCIPLE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
MG100 - The Green Party wants to see a world without borders
For the wilfully blind in the room... this is the ultimate goal of the Green Party-- to have no borders, and to allow anyone to go to any country whenever they like, without question.
SECOND PART OF THE FIRST STATED PRINCIPLE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PURPLE
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MG100 - until this happens the Green Party will implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration where people can move if they wish to do so.
For the wilfully blind in the room... this is how they will achieve the first part of the first principle, by allowing anyone to come from any country at any time.
SECOND STATED PRINCIPLE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK
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MG101. The Green Party believes that migration is not a criminal offence under any circumstances.
Again, for the wilfully blind in the room...Yup, its not a typo - you read that correctly. The Green Party's immigration policy is that when someone arrives in your country, with no passport or ID documents, they haven't committed a crime. They will automatically be allowed to stay, and need not apply for asylum (because there will in effect, be no such thing as asylum).. anyone can come or go, willy nilly.
This immigration policy is sheer madness and naive in the extreme. It means that you will never know who is entering or leaving your country, no passports of visas would be required, because there would be no borders.
This policy is both a criminal's and a terrorist's unilateral wet dream!!
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smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Congraturaltions. Seems you don't know everything after all!
Yeah it is something all right... that something is known as "normality"... an aspect of life you will learn as you grow up.
Everything is not cut and dried the way naive idealists think it is. Those naive idealists exist on both the far left, and the far right of politics. They completely and unquestioningly buy into the everything their idealist cult tells them to buy into. However, out here in the real world, things are not that simple. You will find that it is perfectly possible to totally disagree with a party or a politician about one or more of their policies, and yet totally agree with that same party or politician about another of their policies. I only have my own philosophy and experience to go by, so I will share how this works for me
NZ Green Party:
Support their policies on the environment, renewable energy, climate change, animal rights and the winding down of fossil fuels.
Oppose their policies on immigration, nuclear power, genetically modified foods, and transgender ideology
NZ Labour Party:
Support their policies on social welfare, climate change, the environment, renewable energy
Oppose their policies on Capital Gains Tax, transportation, and 15 minute cities, education and transgender ideology
NZ National Party (Tories):
Support their polcies on business development, lower income taxes and deregulataion
Oppose pretty muich everyting else
And as for The Fat Orange Turd:
Support SOME parts of his stand on transgender ideology.
Oppose everything else he stands for, including some parts of his position on transgender ideology.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
What is the NZ Labour Party policy on 15-minute cities, and what do you oppose about it?
When I search Google, it says "The concept of "15-minute cities" is an urban planning model, not an official policy of the New Zealand Labour Party", so I assume you think it should be an official policy?
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P.J. Denyer
Penultimate Amazing
Conveniently located services and facilities are woke!
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Yeah, the nearest toilet should be at least a mile away.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
You have to remember that the Raving RightTM think "15 minute cities" means nobody being allowed to travel further than a 15-minute walk.
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You do understand that this is the same sort of strawmanning as taking a statement like 'it is our belief that nobody should be denied access to healthy food' and saying 'for those of you who are stupid, this means they want everyone to be allowed to come into your house and raid your fridge. It's right there in black and white!'
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
As I said, wilfully blind. Its right there in the principles and policies - the number one Principle... "a world without borders!"
P.J. Denyer
Penultimate Amazing
Yeah, and that one should be closed!