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[P.J. Denyer]

Whilst I don't like Farage and diasgree with his politics, I think that comments made in the school yard are irrelevant, the man should not be blamed for childhood sins. I do think there is something distasteful about this rehashing of childhood memories. As a skeptic we should know that memories are malleable, everytime you remember something you remake the memory. I don't believe that memories from forty years ago will be accurate. I for one have no recall of my mother's womb. Eye witness testimony is unreliable. False memories are common, and easily induced.

False memory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That would be more of a concern if there wasn't written evidence from the period (not to mention corroboration from other pupils).

Nigel Farage branded 'racist' and 'fascist' by his teachers

High school teachers said Nigel Farage's behaviour should prevent him being made a prefect

theweek.com

 

[smartcooky]

Good. Now get back to Farage's demonstrated racist and anti-semitic comments at Dulwich...

Evidence?

 

[zooterkin]

Evidence?

Look up.

 

[smartcooky]

He was 17, hardly a child.
He was the school bully

Evidence?

 

[smartcooky]

Look up.

The claimant's burden, not mine.

 

[smartcooky]

Not sure the relevance of the womb, no-one is claiming memories go that far back. When 20 different people have corroborating memories of the same thing, I think we can conclude it's quite likely that there's some truth to it.

And when 20 different people have corroborating memories that differ from the first 20, that calls the accuracy of every one of their memories into question

 

[smartcooky]

That would be more of a concern if there wasn't written evidence from the period (not to mention corroboration from other pupils).

Nigel Farage branded 'racist' and 'fascist' by his teachers

High school teachers said Nigel Farage's behaviour should prevent him being made a prefect

theweek.com

So what? Why is that relevant decades later?

I wouldn't want to have some of the things I did at school made public. I'll bet every single one of you here either told and/or laughed at Jewish jokes and/or Irish jokes when you were school kids....and anyone who claims otherwise is a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar.

 

[zooterkin]

Evidence?

So what? Why is that rekevant decades later?

 

[smartcooky]

So asking for evidence is moving the goalposts? Your standards for skepticism really have plummeted.

 

[plague311]

It's funny how when people defend right-wing talking points, they turn into those right-wing personalities too.

"Open Border", childish nicknames, insulting anyone who differs repeatedly, calling them "low IQ" and "low intelligence", etc.

Why, one might even say it's very Trumpian.

 

[Lithrael]

....and anyone who claims otherwise is a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar.

Excuse you? Have you considered the possibility that your experiences are not universal?

 

[catsmate]

So what? Why is that relevant decades later?

Isn't that blindingly obvious?

I wouldn't want to have some of the things I did at school made public. I'll bet every single one of you here either told and/or laughed at Jewish jokes and/or Irish jokes when you were school kids....and anyone who claims otherwise is a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ liar.

No. Not everyone is as unpleasant and bigoted as you appear to have been.

 

[smartcooky]

Isn't that blindingly obvious?

Nope, it isn't. The past is another county - they did things differently there!

No. Not everyone is as unpleasant and bigoted as you appear to have been.

There are two types of people in this world...

1. Those who were different people, with different political views, and different attitudes in the past than they have now.
2. Those who lie about it.

Everyone is either one or the other.

 

[smartcooky]

Excuse you? Have you considered the possibility that your experiences are not universal?

Nope, because it isn't even a possibility... and you know it

 

[smartcooky]

It's funny how when people defend right-wing talking points, they turn into those right-wing personalities too.

Well that isn't me. You must be mistaking me for someone else

I will defend all sides' talking points, left and right, if those talking point are valid or the truth. ANYONE here who knows my posting record over the last 13 years will know this. They will know that I have defended, and indeed promoted, left wing talking points... multiple times.

"Open Border"

That the far left want open borders is a fact, not a meme. They have actually public stated as much!

childish nicknames, insulting anyone who differs repeatedly

Not very self-aware are you. Have a look in the mirror sometime - I differ with you a lot, and you have insulted me plenty of times.

calling them "low IQ" and "low intelligence", etc.

You put those words in quotes, you you'll be able to show me where I used those exact words to describe other forum members...

I'll wait

Why, one might even say it's very Trumpian.

Now I KNOW you know nothing about me. I have been one of The Fat Orange Turd's fiercest critics on this forum, and that is in the record (I suggest you peruse the USA Politics threads). I hardly even refer to him by name.

 

[Lithrael]

Nope, because it isn't even a possibility... and you know it

What in the actual hell? No, for real. The closest I got was something something a blonde using tipp-ex on a computer monitor.

 

[plague311]

Well that isn't me. You must be mistaking me for someone else

I will defend all sides' talking points, left and right, if those talking point are valid or the truth. ANYONE here who knows my posting record over the last 13 years will know this. They will know that I have defended, and indeed promoted, left wing talking points... multiple times.

I have been here as long, if not longer, than you have. I'm very familiar with your posting style and your history.

That the far left want open borders is a fact, not a meme. They have actually public stated as much!

The ◊◊◊◊ it is. We both know it's not. That's a ridiculous thing to claim, but this is you now.

Not very self-aware are you. Have a look in the mirror sometime - I differ with you a lot, and you have insulted me plenty of times.

I don't call people childish names, I directly insult their arguments in detail...but that's who I am all of the time. It's not who I all of a sudden become because of an individual topic. You and ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ trans stuff, man. It's absolutely insane. If given the opportunity I would create a thread where I post nameless posts of our extreme right wingers and the stuff you post in this thread, and I assume in the trans thread, right next to each other. I bet no one would know the difference. I bet they couldn't figure out which one was you and which one was a Trump minion in most cases. They're identical.

You've insulted me plenty of times as well, in this thread alone. ◊◊◊◊, you insult me for not participating in a thread that I have no desire to participate in because it's literally your identity now. It's all you are. It's all you do.

You put those words in quotes, you you'll be able to show me where I used those exact words to describe other forum members...

You've called people intellectual cowards throughout this entire thread. You can ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ look it up your God damned self. I don't owe you my time. You know you've done it, why even bother denying it?

I'll wait

Wait as long as you ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ want, I hope you packed a lunch.

Now I KNOW you know nothing about me. I have been one of The Fat Orange Turd's fiercest critics on this forum, and that is in the record (I suggest you peruse the USA Politics threads. I hardly even refer to him by name.

Yet you sound exactly like him. Crazy, isn't it?

 

[smartcooky]

What in the actual hell? No, for real. The closest I got was something something a blonde using tipp-ex on a computer monitor.

Well there you go... by the logic of the Loony left, you are now, and forever, labelled as a misogynist!

 

[smartcooky]

I have been here as long, if not longer, than you have. I'm very familiar with your posting style and your history.

And yet, you get it so wrong

The ◊◊◊◊ it is. We both know it's not. That's a ridiculous thing to claim, but this is you now.

Migration Policy - Green Party Asylum and Migration Policy Working Group

migration.greenparty.org.uk

"Principles

MG100. The Green Party wants to see a world without borders"

That's the far-left for you. Anyone left of the Green Party, at least in the UK, will fall of the edge of the cliff

 

[plague311]

And yet, you get it so wrong

If that's what gets you through, buddy. All the more power to you.

Migration Policy - Green Party Asylum and Migration Policy Working Group

migration.greenparty.org.uk

"Principles

MG100. The Green Party wants to see a world without borders"

That's the far-left for you. Anyone left of the Green Party, at least in the UK, will fall of the edge of the cliff

Wow, you're even down to ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ cherry picking.

The Green Party in government will:

1. Implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration
2. Treat all migrants as if they are citizens
3. Give all residents the right to vote
4. Help families to be together
5. Dismantle the Home Office
6. Abolish the No Recourse to Public Funds condition
7. Abolish the ten year route to settlement
8. Stop the profiteering from application fees
9. Stop putting people in prison because of their immigration status
10. Accept our responsibility for the climate emergency and support the people forced to move

◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ literally the ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ first ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ point says ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ managed ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ immigration.

Seriously.