Basis of Immortality?

[Little 10 Toes]

Singularity.

Define "Singularity".

 

[Loss Leader]

4. Or otherwise?

The individual atoms currently making up your body are probably the longest lived thing about you. About half your protons will still be around in 1.29x10³⁴ years. But even they will decay eventually.

Of course, not one single atom in your body gives a damn whether you live or die. So, it's sort of a losing proposition in total.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

At the moment there is no scientific base for immortality.

Nothing is nature is immortal. Even bacteria, which long were thought to be functionally immortal, have by now been show to have finite life spans.
I suspect biological immortality is impossible without a radical re-engineering of our genetics.

Maybe, just maybe, we will eventually be able to copy our consciousness and memories onto a form of computer and achieve functional immortality that way, but whether we'd be able to cope with that is a different matter.

 

[barehl]

Sorry, but it may be a reason to take or gift death to many in name of mercy killing, unuseful life even without wish of dying person. Somewhat murder in real sense. But believing, whole individual is just brain and brain can not be regained or revived--can be bit odd. Still, don't we take care of our relatives with memory loss or in coma or become mad? It can take more time for revival(just feeling logically). Moreover stem cell techniques are also there, nearby. Probably, natural enhancement/stimulation of out god/nature gifted stem cell mechanism may also come. At least we can make his clones & children by Test tube technique. So we should wait till death. Death is not a thing for which we may be entitled to gift.

Souls and ghosts: put a last minute big photo of a person, near to death and after death and display in your house prominently, you may get some impression of these, probably.Reincarnations: to be understand, what can be real logic behind it, our last live spectrum transfer, our work, our children, by our remains or otherwise.

I can't understand any point you are trying to make in response to my post. I think I was quite clear: ghosts, souls, or spirits don't exist and this can be proven. This has nothing at all to do with someone with brain damage or children. Your reply is gibberish.

 

[barehl]

Maybe, just maybe, we will eventually be able to copy our consciousness and memories onto a form of computer and achieve functional immortality that way, but whether we'd be able to cope with that is a different matter.

No, that can be disproved as well. You can't copy your consciousness and memories to a computer.

 

[barehl]

The individual atoms currently making up your body are probably the longest lived thing about you. About half your protons will still be around in 1.29x10³⁴ years. But even they will decay eventually.

Based on what? Proton decay has never been detected. It's one of the grand failures of scientific theory along with the search for ether wind.

 

[Kumar]

Define "Singularity".

The initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang.

 

[Kumar]

The individual atoms currently making up your body are probably the longest lived thing about you. About half your protons will still be around in 1.29x10³⁴ years. But even they will decay eventually.

Of course, not one single atom in your body gives a damn whether you live or die. So, it's sort of a losing proposition in total.

Thanks.

What we shall be at the time of Big Bang?

 

[Kumar]

At the moment there is no scientific base for immortality.

Nothing is nature is immortal. Even bacteria, which long were thought to be functionally immortal, have by now been show to have finite life spans.
I suspect biological immortality is impossible without a radical re-engineering of our genetics.

Maybe, just maybe, we will eventually be able to copy our consciousness and memories onto a form of computer and achieve functional immortality that way, but whether we'd be able to cope with that is a different matter.

Thanks. That can still be secondary or partial immortality.

Btw, this question again: What wiil be our form at Big Bang?

 

[Kumar]

I can't understand any point you are trying to make in response to my post. I think I was quite clear: ghosts, souls, or spirits don't exist and this can be proven. This has nothing at all to do with someone with brain damage or children. Your reply is gibberish.

Yes but I think. ghosts/souls, even if possible, can not be in materialistic or physical form. These can either be in some energy form or illusionary emotional form or in image form.?

Others was for different angle i.e. giving so much importance to brain.

 

[Mojo]

What we shall be at the time of Big Bang?

Btw, this question again: What wiil be our form at Big Bang?

Kumar, you do realise that the "Big Bang" is an event that took place in the past, and long before we existed, don't you?

 

[Kumar]

Kumar, you do realise that the "Big Bang" is an event that took place in the past, and long before we existed, don't you?

Yes, but does not it have some role in making us at our most prime level?

Whether photons are eternal?

 

[Mojo]

Yes, but does not it have some role in making us at our most prime level?

The definitions of "prime", "energy state", "Big Bang state", and "singularity" you have posted in this thread mean that you are asking whether the Big Bang had some role in the Big Bang. This is not a useful question.

 

[Kumar]

The definitions of "prime", "energy state", "Big Bang state", and "singularity" you have posted in this thread mean that you are asking whether the Big Bang had some role in the Big Bang. This is not a useful question.

I do not know, how you calculated it. I am just feeling, our ultimate should be somewhat big bang singularity form and that form should be eternal (but can stll change or modify in different forms).

In sense, can't energy transformation into different forms or photon absorption & emition in different wavelength be somehow be related to reincarnation ?

 

[StackOverflow]

I do not know, how you calculated it. I am just feeling, our ultimate should be somewhat big bang singularity form and that form should be eternal (but can stll change or modify in different forms).

In sense, can't energy transformation into different forms or photon absorption & emition in different wavelength be somehow be related to reincarnation ?

You are totally ignoring the fact that a formless void serves immortal space time events.

 

[Mojo]

I do not know, how you calculated it. I am just feeling, our ultimate should be somewhat big bang singularity form and that form should be eternal (but can stll change or modify in different forms).

In sense, can't energy transformation into different forms or photon absorption & emition in different wavelength be somehow be related to reincarnation ?

This is nonsense.

 

[Kumar]

You are totally ignoring the fact that a formless void serves immortal space time events.

Yes, I ignored it. However I am not sure, if we can be anyway be primarily converted into these? Still, in any calculation zero and even a dot also has importance.

It is also their in some religions:

Nirguna and Saguna

Two Aspects of God

God can be experienced in two aspects – as NIRGUNA and SAGUNA .

NIRGUNA[propertyless] is the eternal all-pervading and omnipresent divine consciousness.
SAGUNA[with proprty] is the manifestation of God in form.
https://www.chakras.net/yoga-principles/21-nirguna-and-saguna

 

[Sideroxylon]

Self replicating robots on interstellar journeys mining the void for precious atoms to fuse into their ever-expanding metal bodies.

And mindlessly trashing the home planet of sentient beings who can do nothing to stop them.

We would be proud to see the day.

 

[Brainache]

And mindlessly trashing the home planet of sentient beings who can do nothing to stop them.

We would be proud to see the day.

Well, you can't launch a space fleet of unstoppable marauding robots without breaking a few eggs. After all, these robots will be our descendants and kids will be kids...

 

[Kumar]

This is nonsense.

Inflation and baryogenesis

Main articles: Cosmic inflation and baryogenesis

The earliest phases of the Big Bang are subject to much speculation. In the most common models the universe was filled homogeneously and isotropically with a very high energy density and huge temperatures and pressures and was very rapidly expanding and cooling. Approximately 10−37 seconds into the expansion, a phase transition caused a cosmic inflation, during which the universe grew exponentially during which time density fluctuations that occurred because of the uncertainty principle were amplified into the seeds that would later form the large-scale structure of the universe.[18] After inflation stopped, reheating occurred until the universe obtained the temperatures required for the production of a quark–gluon plasma as well as all other elementary particles.[19] Temperatures were so high that the random motions of particles were at relativistic speeds, and particle–antiparticle pairs of all kinds were being continuously created and destroyed in collisions.[5] At some point, an unknown reaction called baryogenesis violated the conservation of baryon number, leading to a very small excess of quarks and leptons over antiquarks and antileptons—of the order of one part in 30 million. This resulted in the predominance of matter over antimatter in the present universe.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

I think, going to above level, shall be like, losing our individuality and getting our universality. Although, it can be bit odd to discuss but I feel understanding of real/absolute sense of Immortality may not possible without it.