Merged Barry Jenning's Tale

You placed Jennings and Hess in a northeast stairwelll of WTC 7. They could not have seen the Twin Towers from this vantage.

The explosion was not a bomb.

What are you talking about?

Jennings never said he saw the Twin Towers from the stairwell. He said he went up to the 8th floor and looked out the windows. If he had stayed in the stairwell, the firemen would never have seen him.
 
from another thread, MaGZ has asked this question:

"Could you please show me where you think Jennings and Hess were in you timeline when these events happened?
1) the second plane hit WTC 2
2) the collapse of WTC 2
3) the collapse of WTC 1
Also, when do you think they were rescued by the Fire Dept.?"
http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showpost.php?p=3823618&postcount=267

From listening to what Barry says, this is easy:

1) he was near WTC 7 when the first plane hit, and was inside before the 2nd plane hit.

2) he was on the 23rd floor when the 2nd plane hit.

3) he was on the 8th floor trying to flag down firemen when WTC2 fell.

4) same as 3)

WTC1 fell at 10:28, and Jennings did an interview at 11:34 a half mile from WTC 7 (some claim this was at 11:59).

The rescue would have taken some time, but was likely going on about halfway between these two events, so around 11 or 11:15.
 
How did he see the towers from the north?

JenningsWindow.jpg
 
How did he see the towers from the north?

[qimg]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/JenningsWindow.jpg[/qimg]

Easy, he saw them from the other side of the building. They walked around on the 8th floor, before going to the north side where there was less smoke. That's where they saw the firemen run from the collapsing towers.

Jennings never he said he saw the towers fall, only that he saw the towers "still standing", and then later saw the firemen running.

That's all you got?
 
How did he see the towers from the north?

[qimg]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/911/JenningsWindow.jpg[/qimg]

PS

your photos show the fire started by the explosion described by Hess and Jennings.

If anyone was wondering how debris hitting the SW and south side of WTC 7 started a fire on the NE and north side, now ya know. It didn't.
 
Norseman, here has found some evidence to help support Barry Jennings:

http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showpost.php?p=3820617&postcount=225

First of all, Barry Jennings says he was on the 23rd floor when the 2nd plane hit.

According to the testimony of Zarrillo, Nahmod, and Yakimovich, all three of these people had not even gotten to WTC 7 by the time the 2nd plane hit. They were still in route. So that means by the time they got up to the 23rd floor, Jennings and Hess were already gone down the stairwell.

Hess and Jennings made phone calls while on the 23rd floor. Hess was freaking out and trying to get ahold of Ghouliani. Someone close to Ghouliani told Hess to get out of there, which fits in with Ghouliani's behaviour, as Ghouliani never made any attempt to get to WTC 7. Hess and Jennings evidently got a warning to leave before the fireman did, because the firemen had no direct contact with Ghouliani's staff.

Zarrillo says he went down the stairwell later. Since Jennings went down the east stairwell, and there had been an explosion that destroyed the landing, Zarrillo went down the west stairwell.

Peruggia, before the 2nd plane hit, said he talked to someone who said they had been told the OEC was "operational", prior to the 2nd plane hit.

This means that if the OEC were "operational", then it was in error, or someone else had gone there and started things up, turned the lights or computers on, or whatever it means to make the OEC "operational".

If this is what happened, whoever did this was not there when Jennings & Hess arrived at about 9:03, or if they were, they were out of sight of Jennings and Hess. The OEC is the size of a football field. More likely, whoever turned on the lights and whatever, went down to the lobby to meet people he was expecting for help, like Zarrillo, Nahmod, Peruggia, and Yakimovich, and left their coffee and sandwiches in the OEC.

Because the 2nd plane hit caused a power irregularity, Jennings and Hess went down the east stairwell, were they were almost killed by a bomb on the 6th floor. Then they went up to the 8th floor and looked out the windows. They saw the Twin Towers standing and flagged down a fireman. The firemen were coming to help when WTC 2 fell, and Jennings saw the firemen run for cover. Then the firemen came back, but had to run again when WTC 2 fell. Finally, the fireman came back again and rescued Jennings and Hess at around 11 AM. Jennings and Hess went down to the street, and did a TV interview at 11:34 about a half mile from WTC 7.

The bomb at the 6th floor started a fire in WTC 7, which could later be seen out the window of the 7th floor on the north face, east end.

This exploision was one of the initial blasts that were later used to blow up WTC 7, by taking out core columns 76, 77, 79, or 80.

These explosions left hotspots of over 1000 degress five days after 9/11, near the explosion.

The east stairwell was in a protected area on the north edge of the WTC 7, far away from debris from WTC 1, and protected from debris by core columns #74 and #75. According to NIST, there was no debris damage in the east stairwell.

Its also important to note that virtually every witness on 9/11, and I have read through statements by hundreds of people, frame their narrative around the two plane hits and the two building collapses. Almost every single person uses these guideposts to pin down and give accurate timelines. Jennings is no different than hundreds of brave first responders in that he gives accurate testimony, framed around the significant events of that day. The only difference for Jennings is that he had a 5th important event, the exploision which almost killed him, which he also uses to frame the timeline of his testimony, and ensure its accuracy.

Jennigs said he told NIST the same thing he told Dylan Avery. We need to get the recording of Jennings interview with NIST. Jennings and Hess both said it was an explosion, NIST's thirdhand report says dust and debris settled into the stairwell. The NIST lies have been exposed.

Finally, the fire alram in WTC 7 was turned off at 6:47 AM. If it hadn't, the explosion in the east stariwell would have been reported immediately, rather than almost forgotten. Thanks to 9/11 hero and first responder Barry Jennings, that bomb will not be forgotten, and whoever set it, may one day be brought to justice.

The silence is deafening. Not one good debunking point in several hours. My reasoning is air-tight. The psuedo-lions & tigers jump out for the easy prey, but when GALILEO SPEAKS, the rats scurry into their little corners. I can only imagine 1000 debunkers, twisting and concocting, in an attempt to refute the mighty GALILEO! YOU ARE VANQUISHED YE ALL!!!

:cool:
 
What are you talking about?

Jennings never said he saw the Twin Towers from the stairwell. He said he went up to the 8th floor and looked out the windows. If he had stayed in the stairwell, the firemen would never have seen him.

It is my understanding that Jennings and Hess were trapped in the stairwell and broke a window for attention to be rescued. If they could roam the 8th floor of WTC 7 then why could they not find another exit from the building?
 
It is my understanding that Jennings and Hess were trapped in the stairwell and broke a window for attention to be rescued. If they could roam the 8th floor of WTC 7 then why could they not find another exit from the building?

There were only two stairwells in WTC 7. The other one was way over on the other side of the building, they probably didn't know where it was.

I'm waiting for the alleged army of JREF archie debunkers to procure a witness who was on the 23rd floor at 9:03, now getting close to 24 hours since my request.
 
Norseman, here has found some evidence to help support Barry Jennings:

http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showpost.php?p=3820617&postcount=225

First of all, Barry Jennings says he was on the 23rd floor when the 2nd plane hit.

According to the testimony of Zarrillo, Nahmod, and Yakimovich, all three of these people had not even gotten to WTC 7 by the time the 2nd plane hit. They were still in route. So that means by the time they got up to the 23rd floor, Jennings and Hess were already gone down the stairwell.

Hess and Jennings made phone calls while on the 23rd floor. Hess was freaking out and trying to get ahold of Ghouliani. Someone close to Ghouliani told Hess to get out of there, which fits in with Ghouliani's behaviour, as Ghouliani never made any attempt to get to WTC 7. Hess and Jennings evidently got a warning to leave before the fireman did, because the firemen had no direct contact with Ghouliani's staff.

Zarrillo says he went down the stairwell later. Since Jennings went down the east stairwell, and there had been an explosion that destroyed the landing, Zarrillo went down the west stairwell.

Peruggia, before the 2nd plane hit, said he talked to someone who said they had been told the OEC was "operational", prior to the 2nd plane hit.

This means that if the OEC were "operational", then it was in error, or someone else had gone there and started things up, turned the lights or computers on, or whatever it means to make the OEC "operational".

If this is what happened, whoever did this was not there when Jennings & Hess arrived at about 9:03, or if they were, they were out of sight of Jennings and Hess. The OEC is the size of a football field. More likely, whoever turned on the lights and whatever, went down to the lobby to meet people he was expecting for help, like Zarrillo, Nahmod, Peruggia, and Yakimovich, and left their coffee and sandwiches in the OEC.

Because the 2nd plane hit caused a power irregularity, Jennings and Hess went down the east stairwell, were they were almost killed by a bomb on the 6th floor. Then they went up to the 8th floor and looked out the windows. They saw the Twin Towers standing and flagged down a fireman. The firemen were coming to help when WTC 2 fell, and Jennings saw the firemen run for cover. Then the firemen came back, but had to run again when WTC 2 fell. Finally, the fireman came back again and rescued Jennings and Hess at around 11 AM. Jennings and Hess went down to the street, and did a TV interview at 11:34 about a half mile from WTC 7.

The bomb at the 6th floor started a fire in WTC 7, which could later be seen out the window of the 7th floor on the north face, east end.

This exploision was one of the initial blasts that were later used to blow up WTC 7, by taking out core columns 76, 77, 79, or 80.

These explosions left hotspots of over 1000 degress five days after 9/11, near the explosion.

The east stairwell was in a protected area on the north edge of the WTC 7, far away from debris from WTC 1, and protected from debris by core columns #74 and #75. According to NIST, there was no debris damage in the east stairwell.

Its also important to note that virtually every witness on 9/11, and I have read through statements by hundreds of people, frame their narrative around the two plane hits and the two building collapses. Almost every single person uses these guideposts to pin down and give accurate timelines. Jennings is no different than hundreds of brave first responders in that he gives accurate testimony, framed around the significant events of that day. The only difference for Jennings is that he had a 5th important event, the exploision which almost killed him, which he also uses to frame the timeline of his testimony, and ensure its accuracy.

Jennigs said he told NIST the same thing he told Dylan Avery. We need to get the recording of Jennings interview with NIST. Jennings and Hess both said it was an explosion, NIST's thirdhand report says dust and debris settled into the stairwell. The NIST lies have been exposed.

Finally, the fire alram in WTC 7 was turned off at 6:47 AM. If it hadn't, the explosion in the east stariwell would have been reported immediately, rather than almost forgotten. Thanks to 9/11 hero and first responder Barry Jennings, that bomb will not be forgotten, and whoever set it, may one day be brought to justice.

Over 24 hours and no response. This place sure clams up when they're on the wrong side of the facts. I will take this as a confirmation that Barry Jennings timeline is correct, and pass the information on to the 9/11 Truth movement.

btw

Someone claimed that some mechanics in WTC 7 contradicted Jennings, but I checked that out, and they never went to the 23rd floor, so what they say is irrelevant.
 
Galileo,
Apologies, I haven't read the entire thread and this may have been brought up already, but does anyone have the exact time of Michael Hess's audio interview. This little snippet appears to have disappeared from the internet recently and I think it is important in determining the timeline of events. By the way, the silence is deafening.:)
 
Galileo,
Apologies, I haven't read the entire thread and this may have been brought up already, but does anyone have the exact time of Michael Hess's audio interview. This little snippet appears to have disappeared from the internet recently and I think it is important in determining the timeline of events. By the way, the silence is deafening.:)

The time of the interview is not as important as the fact that Jennings and Hess were on the 23rd floor at 9:03. The interview was at 11:34. Some claim it was at 11:59.
 
Day # 3.

Still no intelligent response to the Barry Jennings timeline. Give up, go home, and sulk, is the new motto of the JREF conspiracy forum.
 
You two geniuses must have missed this:

Quiet the contrary Galileo, every rationale and honest person reading through the interviews I linked will understand that your post is a piece of fiction. Once again Galileo, Nahmod and Zarrillo responded together from Brooklyn after the first plane hit. While driving over the Brooklyn Bridge they saw the second plane hit. In other words they entered the OEM several minutes after the second plane had hit.

The OEM was staffed 24/7:

Source: RICHARD J. SHEIRER

But to handle a full scale emergency the OEM needed be staffed with additional personnel:

Source: RICHARD J. SHEIRER

This interview with firefighter Timothy Brown confirms that the OEM was manned before the first plane hit in accordance with its daily function as described by Sheirer. Timothy Brown was attached to the OEM staff on the 23rd floor. He was down in the cafeteria on the third floor eating breakfast when the first plane struck. He went back up in the OEM to check that the OEM communications were properly supervised. Satisfied that so was the case he went over to WTC 1.

After the first plane they activated the EOC in the OEM and called in the additional personnel required to man it. Among these were Nahmod and Zarrillo who arrived in the OEM well after the second plane had hit. The OEM was evacuated because of a report of a possible third plane heading for New York. This occurred around 09:30. Jennings timeline is wrong. He arrived with Hess in the OEM after the evacuation and some time before the collapse of WTC 2. They were trapped on the 8th floor by the collapse of WTC 1. End of story.

It was posted three hours after Galileo's original post, and well before Galileo's multiple and erroneous claims that no one had responded to that post. I can certainly understand how Galileo could have missed it, busy as he is dodging other threads where's he's been cornered.
 
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Day # 3.

Still no intelligent response to the Barry Jennings timeline.

Yes, you have yet to give an intelligent response. You have seen your BS obliterated, by Norseman and others. All the while claiming "victory", where you have none! Funny, your pal bumped it, showing how bad you FAILED!



 
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The time of the interview is not as important as the fact that Jennings and Hess were on the 23rd floor at 9:03. The interview was at 11:34. Some claim it was at 11:59.

You can only say they was there around 9:03. Jennings and Hess did not react to the crash of the second plane because they were experiencing the explosion at 9:03 in the stairwell when the plane hit WTC 2. I think the were on the 23rd floor about 9:00.
 
Sam Caspersen is another name for the list. He was called into the OEM as part of "20 predesignated representatives of different agencies." That means he was called about the same time as Barry Jennings. Caspersen was en route to the center when is was evacuated at 9:30 am.

He also went over records of the OEM's actions. Besides calling in these agencies, the OEM was also contacted area hospitals to make sure they were aware and getting prepared for what was expected to be hundreds or thousands of victims. After the second plane hit the South Tower, they were also in contact with federal authorities to try and get air coverage over the city.

Caspersen gave a long interview to the authors of "Grand Illusion." He asked to go over the transcript and gave them eight pages of notes with supplemental information and corrections.
 
You two geniuses must have missed this:



It was posted three hours after Galileo's original post, and well before Galileo's multiple and erroneous claims that no one had responded to that post. I can certainly understand how Galileo could have missed it, busy as he is dodging other threads where's he's been cornered.

None of this has anything to do with what Barry Jennings says.

Brown says he left the OEM. That makes sense, since when Jennings and Hess got there they found hot coffee. Brown left his coffee.

The testimony of Zarrillo is later. Jennings never says he was at the OEM at 9:30, Jennings sasy he ws there at 9:03.

Zarrillo never mentions hot coffee. By the time he got there, the coffee had cooled down to near room temperature.

Sheirer is not a witness to what was going on at the OEM at 9:03.
 
None of this has anything to do with what Barry Jennings says.

Whether that's true or not is entirely irrelevant. You claimed there were no responses to your post. Clearly there was. So you either have issues with reading or the truth.
 

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