Badnarik: I will debate or be arrested

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Breaking news: Badnarik and Cobb were both just arrested:

http://badnarik.org/supporters/blog/2004/10/08/michael-badnarik-arrested/

Not so fast.

There is NOTHING about this on CNN or in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. I have every reason to think this loony is making it up to get publicity. Remember, this is a guy who thinks people should be allowed to cares personal nukes, who actually believed that Hawaii had seceded from the union, and who enthusiastically supports a suspected child molestor for public office.

So it is obvious that, not only is he a loony, he (and his supporters) has zero credibility. I would look for a real news source before I believed a word of this. (I'm not going to look any further because, frankly, I don't care)

 

[geni]

Not so fast.

There is NOTHING about this on CNN or in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. I have every reason to think this loony is making it up to get publicity. Remember, this is a guy who thinks people should be allowed to cares personal nukes, who actually believed that Hawaii had seceded from the union, and who enthusiastically supports a suspected child molestor for public office.

So it is obvious that, not only is he a loony, he (and his supporters) has zero credibility. I would look for a real news source before I believed a word of this. (I'm not going to look any further because, frankly, I don't care)

It happened

http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&lr=&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&q=Badnarik+and+Cobb&scoring=d

 

[shanek]

I can't believe Scrut is still persisting with his LIES (and yes, he KNOWS they're lies, too) about Badnarik and nukes, Hawaiian secession, and child molestation. Is anyone even paying attention to him anymore?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I can't believe Scrut is still persisting with his LIES (and yes, he KNOWS they're lies, too) about Badnarik and nukes, Hawaiian secession, and child molestation. Is anyone even paying attention to him anymore?

Apparently you and Geni are.

These "lies" about Badnarik are all well documented, and you KNOW it. As I have pointed out before, no matter how loud you whine and stomp your feet, or how many hissy fits you throw, the fact that Badnarik is a loony will not go away.

 

[geni]

Apparently you and Geni are.

Nope I mearly find 2rd 4th 5th and 5th party condidates more interesting than the main two since I can't vote anyway.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Nope I mearly find 2rd 4th 5th and 5th party condidates more interesting than the main two since I can't vote anyway.

Loonies are always more "interesting" than the usual blow dried phonies we have running the country. Interesting in a comical way, but nothing more.

BTW, it looks like the story is now on the Post website: Serious meets trivial outside debate

Looks like the loonies are described as "trivial". Now THAT is accurate reporting!

 

[geni]

Looks like the loonies are described as "trivial". Now THAT is accurate reporting!

I resent that. The loonies have brightened up uk elctions for years and have even beaten parties that held seats. They hold the record for the longest running leader for a uk party have have managed to poll over 1000 votes in a single consituency.

http://www.omrlp.com/

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I resent that. The loonies have brightened up uk elctions for years and have even beaten parties that held seats. They hold the record for the longest running leader for a uk party have have managed to poll over 1000 votes in a single consituency.

http://www.omrlp.com/

LOL! You know, I tried to find their website a few years ago and it had disappeared. Didn't the founder die or lose control of the party or something like that?

 

[geni]

LOL! You know, I tried to find their website a few years ago and it had disappeared. Didn't the founder die or lose control of the party or something like that?

Screaming Lord Sutch died in 1999. The cat that followed him got runover in 2002.

 

[CFLarsen]

“A majority of Americans say that I should be included in the events sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates,”

In a Rasmussen poll, 68% said Badnarik should be allowed in the debates.

Should we now decide what people can do based on polls?

“Unless I am allowed to participate, the debates become a massive campaign contribution to two of the candidates, illegal under the very campaign finance laws those two candidates have passed and signed as Senator and President.”

We await the lawsuit, then.

 

[CFLarsen]

These "lies" about Badnarik are all well documented, and you KNOW it.

Can I see this documentation?

 

[shanek]

Should we now decide what people can do based on polls?

Your hatred of me once again causes your true pseudo-skeptic nature to come out. That was a DIRECT RESPONSE to Tmy's comment that:

"A majority of americans say I should be included"!??!? I bet less than 5% ofthe country even knows who this guy is.

It was an effective rebuttal. Deal with it.

We await the lawsuit, then.

It's coming. Badnarik was actually trying to serve the CPD the papers when he was arrested. BTW, the Browne campaign made the same lawsuit in 2000. He won, but unfortunately the decision wasn't rendered until after the elections, so fat lot of good that did. One more way the system is rigged. If the arguments for the TRO are accepted by the court, then this year they could actually stop the third debate from happening. That would get a LOT of media attention and finally show the CPD for the fraud that it is and that most people now realize.

 

[Mr Manifesto]

Re: Re: Re: Badnarik: I will debate or be arrested

In a Rasmussen poll, 68% said Badnarik should be allowed in the debates.

In a poll of 1000 likely LP voters.

(ah, c'mon, you can't be serious all the time!)

 

[CFLarsen]

Your hatred of me...

Contrary to what you believe, I don't hate you.

...once again causes your true pseudo-skeptic nature to come out.

If I really was a "true pseudo-skeptic", would I ask Scrut for evidence? Hm?

It was an effective rebuttal. Deal with it.

"Effective rebuttal"? So far, I haven't actually seen this poll of yours.

Still, the question remains: Should we now decide what people can do based on polls?

It's coming.

When?

 

[Rob Lister]

"Effective rebuttal"? So far, I haven't actually seen this poll of yours.

The poll results can be found here

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Badnarik in Debates.htm

The poll was commissioned by the Libertarian Party. I'm sure it's accurate. The devil of course is in the details. I'm pretty sure they could have made up a name (rather than actually using Badnarik), and gotten much the same result. It's unlikely, reading the polling report, that very many people had ever heard of him.

Edit to add: Since I'm a Bush supporter (more or less), and after having read that polling report (carefully), I too would like to see him in the debates, though not for the same reasons Shank does.

 

[ManfredVonRichthoffen]

The poll results can be found here

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Badnarik in Debates.htm

The poll was commissioned by the Libertarian Party. I'm sure it's accurate. The devil of course is in the details. I'm pretty sure they could have made up a name (rather than actually using Badnarik), and gotten much the same result. It's unlikely, reading the polling report, that very many people had ever heard of him.

Edit to add: Since I'm a Bush supporter (more or less), and after having read that polling report (carefully), I too would like to see him in the debates, though not for the same reasons Shank does.

They didn't show the questions.

"Do you think third party candidates should be allowed to debate the main two parties?"

Is different than:

"Do you think Badnarik should be allowed to debate with the two main parties?"

The first would probably get the answer, "yes", while the second would get the answer, "Who?"

 

[Rob Lister]

They didn't show the questions.

"Do you think third party candidates should be allowed to debate the main two parties?"

Is different than:

"Do you think Badnarik should be allowed to debate with the two main parties?"

The first would probably get the answer, "yes", while the second would get the answer, "Who?"

Your opinion may differ but I find Rasmussen a fairly objective and honest polling institution. While I don't have access to the exact questions, the report implies they were specific as to the third party candidate. Like I said, I think if they had asked about third party candidates in general, they'd have gotten much the same response.

The question was most probably along the lines of, "Badnarik is the Libertarian party's candidate for President. Do you think he should be included in the Presidential Debates?"

 

[CFLarsen]

The question was:

Should Badnarik Be Invited to Presidential Debates?
Yes: 68%
No: 20%
Not Sure: 12%

It could be interesting to know if the polled asked "Who?".

 

[CFLarsen]

In a Rasmussen poll, 68% said Badnarik should be allowed in the debates.

Why did you leave out that the poll was commissioned by the Libertarian Party?

 

[Tony]

this is a sign of a governmental system that is rotten to the core, at the the federal, state, and local level.

Yep.