Bad Effects of Allopathic Medicines?

Mojo said:
You're playing a dangeous game here. These clowns are dishonest enough to quote people out of context and claim that they support homeopathy even when it's obvious that they don't. And I'm not sure that they know the meaning of the word "irony" either.
By Jove! I wouldn't put that beyond them. Reminds me of the time I saw Hawking misquoted to sound like he believed in God.
 
Vikram said:
By Jove! I wouldn't put that beyond them. Reminds me of the time I saw Hawking misquoted to sound like he believed in God.
There's a delightful misquoting of Mark Twain on the NCH Pakistan Forums on this thread .

Quote as described by homeopathic proponents:
Mark Twain said
Quote: "The introduction of homeopathy forced the old school doctor to stir around and learn something of a rational nature about his business. You may honestly feel grateful that homeopathy survived the attempts of allopaths (the orthodox physicians to destroy it."

The actual full quote:
"When you reflect that your own father had to take such medicines as the above, and that you would be taking them today yourself, but for the introduction of homoeopathy, which forced the old school doctor to stir around and learn something of a rational nature about his business, you may honestly feel grateful that homoeopathy survived the attempts of the allopathists to destroy it, even though you may never employ any physician but an allopathist while you live."

Kind of gives a different impression when you hear the whole thing and don't selectively quote chunks.

In this whole recent exchange I have generally found the homeopaths to behave appallingly childishly, and now they have reached new levels in resorting to the shock tactics of this thread.

They have done their cause no good at all.

Well done Dr. MAS. Well done all NCH Pakistan members. You have disgraced yourselves publicly.

It seems like it is just the arrogance of wanting to play doctor, without giving a damn about the welfare of patients, or wanting to actually study medicine or science, and in fact to actively question and ridicule proven scientific remedies.

This whole thing is really very unpleasant.
 
Rolfe said:
Maybe one of the human-type medics here could hazard a guess as to what disease the poor lady in the picture is actually suffering from? Leprosy?
Does look like it. That, or a particularly bad case of Photoshopitis.
 
Vikram said:
Does look like it. That, or a particularly bad case of Photoshopitis.
One point against this being leprosy: she has no amputated digits. Such extensive facial involvement with intact fingers would be very rare.

She could have cutaneous Donovanosis but this wouldn't be a typical presentation at all. Furthermore, it wouldn't require resection of the nose.

Though I could be mistaken, I'm personally inching towards Photoshopitis, especially considering how black the area where her nose ought to be is. One would expect to see at least some remnants of the inner nasal septum. Also, the face looks more like an amateurish smudge job than a real illness.
 
Vikram said:
"Vikram's ............. ................will be terrible

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You said it!
 
Re: Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Nucular said:
India (where Pranayam-yoga was invented by Baba Ramdev):
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 60.0/63.0
Adult mortality m/f (per 1000): 283/213

United Kingdom (where probably no-one practises Pranayam-yoga):
Life expectancy at birth m/f (years): 76.0/81.0
Adult mortality m/f (per 1000): 103/64

Moral #1: don't practice Pranayam-yoga
Moral #2: spend the money you were going to spend on Pranayam-yoga "Camps, TV channels, cassetes & CDs, books etc." on food, shelter & proper healthcare
Moral #3: make Baba Ramdev donate his presumably vast profits to developing a proper health service in India
Moral #4: shut up

But Still one of the most populated...bad luck. :D

Does somewhat alike this happen in nature for "Surrvival of Fittest", "Nature's balance" or "Natural selections"? Is it better/natural to carry forward all good or bad or just the fittest???

His work also may also be against the nature or agaist the modern age indication or try balancing by natural means of created much imbalances by unnatural means. May homeopathy or other ancient systems be alike it & your's might be best entitled to handle created modern imbalances by unnatural means.
;)
 
Re: Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Ashles said:
Excellent. Well no doubt we will soon suddenly see a massive improvement in India's appalling levels of healthcare, infant mortality and life expectancy figures.

Yes? This is his GOAL/MOTTO, but.....what will happen to Nature's balance?:D

Incidentally, why are so many people turning to Baba Ramdev? Is homeopathy not working out for them?

Or is this alternative alternative medicine?


Probably these may be from other than homeopathic community.:) So many modern people still are out of homeopathic community. However some can also go there from homeopathic community BUT may bring/attract much more along with them, who will have "alternative" taste but may become lazy to practice/work much--a common human nature of modern world. ;) :p

" Many "alternatives" can attract by will BUT few/one can drag/pull by unwill alike rape " :D
 
Re: Re: Re: Next Wonder of Natural/ancient/alternative system>>

Kumar said:
But Still one of the most populated...bad luck. :D
What's the relevency of that? You'd rather live somewhere crowded than healthy?

Does somewhat alike this happen in nature for "Surrvival of Fittest", "Nature's balance" or "Natural selections"? Is it better/natural to carry forward all good or bad or just the fittest???
Well humans are social animals and looking after each other increases chances of our DNA propogating. So keeping each other alive is pefectly natural.

But if that is what you think about the importance of letting the unfit or unhealthy die then I now think I understand your continued support of homeopathy

His work also may also be against the nature or agaist the modern age indication or try balancing by natural means of created much imbalances by unnatural means. May homeopathy or other ancient systems be alike it & your's might be best entitled to handle created modern imbalances by unnatural means.
;)
Homeopathy isn't 'natural', and it isn't 'best entitled' to handle any medical complaint.
That's really as simple as it gets.
 
Are we making ourselves, our children or destroying? Are we making other species or destroying them by suggesting thier natural balances, prunings, thinning etc? Are we naturally balanced/fittest/in perfect hormony or jungle/natural inhabitants? Is our selfishness making us or destroying us ultimately?? Whather modern system can balance us as per nature or ancient systems? What is what??
 
Kumar said:
Are we making ourselves, our children or destroying?
Depends. What do you teach your children?
Are we making other species or destroying them by suggesting thier natural balances, prunings, thinning etc?
How does one suggest a natural balance?
Are we naturally balanced/fittest/in perfect hormony or jungle/natural inhabitants?
Define "perfect harmony." Then find one point in time for one humanity when it has been in "perfect harmony."
Is our selfishness making us or destroying us ultimately??
What selfishness?
Whather modern system can balance us as per nature or ancient systems?
Why would we want them to?
What is what??
"What" is a Unix program used to find the revision code of a command.
 
I sincerely believe I've seen that picture before. I want to say in a National Geographic or something, however, I'm not entirely sure and as it's a "belief" you should all probably take with as much seriousness as you do such statements as, "Homeopathy is wonderful and it works."
 
Homeo Man said:
blah blah blah

This story is a fabrication, pure and simple.... As someone who works in the medical field, I know of NO ANTIBIOTIC that causes nasal polyps or cancer. Furthermore, I don't know ANY doctor or surgeon that would make such a claim.

Even your reference to "WARM" allopathic medicines is total bunk. Western medicine has no classification of "warm" medications.

I mean, seriously... if you're going to make up a such a silly story about western medication, I'd think you'd AT LEAST do a bit of research so that it's at least a bit plausible....

:rolleyes:
 
Kumar said:
Are we making ourselves, our children or destroying? Are we making other species or destroying them by suggesting thier natural balances, prunings, thinning etc? Are we naturally balanced/fittest/in perfect hormony or jungle/natural inhabitants? Is our selfishness making us or destroying us ultimately?? Whather modern system can balance us as per nature or ancient systems? What is what??

Kumar, are you still taking your insulin?
 
This is a perfect example of the reasoning behind my "read no posts with a question mark in the subject line" New Year's Resolution this year.

I didn't keep it, of course, but this thread makes me wish I had.
 
Rolfe said:
Maybe one of the human-type medics here could hazard a guess as to what disease the poor lady in the picture is actually suffering from?
No. Let's cut to the chase. "Homeo Man" has resorted to shock tactics and attacking what he regards as proper medicine because he is fully aware that he has no explanation for homeopathy and no evidence that homeopathy works. He is a fraud and a troll (and possibly a sock).

In vino veritas.
 
And by the way, Kumar, by trolling in this thread you have confirmed yourself as being the pathetic excuse for a human being that I have for a long time suspected you of being.
 

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