Ave Maria Florida

[JamesM]

I take it that 'Romish Pumpkin' is also beyond the pale?

 

[Zbu]

I was just down there a week ago, and I can see why. I don't know what the average income is, down there, but property values are literally through the roof. Took a tour, and the average home I saw was probably in the $1 million range. Ann Arbor salaries probably are going to be inadequate for normal living.

Actually, Ave Maria is located in Ypsilanti, Michigan, right next to Eastern Michigan University. Despite being close to each other, Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti are very different when it comes to living. Ann Arbor (especially around the University of Michigan) is very high priced--for very little reason, IMO) and Ypsilanti is pretty much a low-income ghetto once you get out of EMU campus and the farther from Ann Arbor. Thanks to urban sprawl, you can get cheaper housing but everything popping up around here in Washtenaw County starts at $150,000 and goes screaming upwards. But Ave Maria isn't in Ann Arbor, it's a crappy little one-story building that sits right on the eastern side of EMU campus. Occasionally you'll see someone in a habit going back and forth on the campus while going to class.

But honestly, Ave Maria University up here is notorious for having money problems and not getting attendance. I don't fancy their chances in a town of its own making which seems to want a giant hand in how its run but if they want to waste their money and time on making, filling up, and then dealing with the resultant lawsuits, let them. It just seems doomed to failure.

 

[TragicMonkey]

OK. So we get to the nitty gritty (old enough term for you?)

You are disinterested in discussing what I wanted to discuss, but instead wish to gnaw on how I said it, whatever.

I'm so sorry you feel the need to control a conversation. If you don't want people to take issue with terminology, employ different terminology.

It seems to me that you have a problem with sensitivity to what is commonly called PC. No antibiotics available for that I'm afraid.

PC is a terrible affliction, I'll admit. Clouds everything in a fog of conflicting emotions.

I would hardly characterize a objecting to a single offensive term as "PC". But it is a very convenient ad hominem to throw out when someone takes you to task for using the vocabulary of bigotry. If you wish to present a case for me being an advocate of "PC" or "PC language", feel free to scour the board for my other posts.

There is however a way to a cure, and it's called understanding context and intent. Unfortunately, however, if one is incapable of distinguishing context and intent from one's own preconceived anticipations of context and intent, then one is truly screwed. The world will continue to revolve around one's own fantasies in a narrowing spiral until the very end

Yes, it's so ridiculous for me to think a word means what it means, and that a single individual can't redefine any given word at his whim, and strip it of whatever history or connotation it has.

You're an idiot. But don't complain to the mods; you don't know how I mean the word "idiot". Perhaps I've redefined it to mean something else, and taking offense at it would be a ludicrous example of "political correctness" run amok. Fatty.

 

[mgidm86]

I admit that the teram Papist is new to me, so I consulted Dictionary.com.

****** (censored by the BB)
Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a Black person

Papist
Offensive. Used as a disparaging term for a Roman Catholic.

Disparaging
To speak of in a slighting or disrespectful way; belittle

Note that the term "Papist" is not censored above, for whatever that is worth. I personally doubt that this term carries the same weight as the 'n' word in most places, but perhaps I am wrong. Maybe Elind is unaware, as was I, as to the magnitude of offense that this term carries. It seems so after reading this thread, though I don't want to speak for Elind. As I stated, I have never even heard the term.

As for the actual topic of this thread, I just learned of this new "town" today on the radio and came here to learn more and read some opinions. I'm afraid I don't have much to add yet, except that at first glance, some of this sounds unconstitutional.

 

[Meadmaker]

While I tend to agree that "papist" is an offensive term, it's no more offensive than "fundie".

I find it amusing that several references in the various threads about Ave Maria, Florida, have referred to the Catholics who might live there as "fundies". Now that's offensive.

It's a fairly offensive term in Ireland, where it is generally used by Protestants in folksongs sung on the 12th of July.

Well Bob the deceiver he took us all in.
He married a papist name Bridget McGinn
Turned Papish himself and forsook the old cause,
that gave us our freedom religion and laws.

 

[Elind]

You're an idiot. But don't complain to the mods; you don't know how I mean the word "idiot". Perhaps I've redefined it to mean something else, and taking offense at it would be a ludicrous example of "political correctness" run amok. Fatty.

I've been around long enough to know I'm not an idiot . And I'll have you know I'm pretty buff too, hardly fatty

But I thank you for this couple of sentences, and part. Made my point very well. Cheers.

 

[Elind]

I take it that 'Romish Pumpkin' is also beyond the pale?

As I said, before. Aging adds spice to words. Got any more?