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[Beady]

Members of Legatus are invited to monthly meetings (along with their spouses) where they learn about their faith and about the insights of the Catholic Church on a range of social issues, including business ethics.

That's just what they want you to think. In reality, Legatus is a Catholic counter to the Illuminati, and the actual meetings involve subverting the New World Order.

 

[Mephisto]

I think I've already made this joke but here it goes anyway: wanna make a quick buck? Install a vid store with a XXX section, a pharmacy selling birth control and an abortion clinic outside county lines.

Be sure to run a weekly sale on Viagra at the pharmacy, along with a Two4Tuesday where a copy of your Baptismal certificate or last week's church bulletin can get you a double dose along with a complimentary jar of hand lotion and the current month's issue of "Chunky Butts" magazine.

 

[Tony]

That might happen even if you didn't use the word. (Just kidding!) But does that dispose of the issue?

Yes.

so we're generally either not members of the group targeted by the slur, or else religious bigots, or both. That hardly helps matters.

That is a false dichotomy, and I don't see how we could be religious bigots, especially since we're not religious.

 

[sackett]

That's just what they want you to think. In reality, Legatus is a Catholic counter to the Illuminati, and the actual meetings involve subverting the New World Order.

And while we're laffing and chaffing over "papist," T. Monaghan and the boyos may be up to tricks just about as sinister as you could imagine.

I like visualizing those Legatus Project meetings: God’s plenty of fine prosperous businessmen, sittin’ down to cabbage and corned beef, with the little ladies at their own table, bedad, and layin’ out plans for the greater glory ‘n upliftin’ of Our Sacred Mother the Church. Can you think of that? Jazus and it would make your heart thrill like an alarm clock.

 

[sackett]

Papist, papist, papist! There! And you can’t stop me!

Wow, a prickly exchange over that antiquated slur!

As for T. Monaghan, if he ain’t a mackeral-snapping, ring-sucking, Latin-mangling papist mofo, then they don’t make ‘em anymore. And I’m sure he doesn’t care one little bit about us and you and me.

I looooove! religious insults. There’s nothing ethnic about them. You can’t be born a Cathlick; you have to make yourself into one, or at least consent to be raised that way, and if disparaging references to the Bishop of Rome offend you,

then I’m very sorry.

 

[ceo_esq]

Yes.

The question was sort of rhetorically intended, since correct answer is obviously "no."

That is a false dichotomy, and I don't see how we could be religious bigots, especially since we're not religious.

As to the first part, it was your dichotomy (either "non-Catholic" or "anti-Catholic"). I didn't make it. As to the second part, obviously "religious" in that context means something like "with respect to or on the basis of religion".

 

[Cleon]

Well, if anyone doesn't think "Papist" is derogatory, I would ask them to take a stroll around The Falls road in Belfast and ask someone if they're a Papist. I'm sure the response will be interesting.

The question of whether it's appropriate to this forum, considering we use "woo" and "fundy" regularly, is another question.

 

[sackett]

Well, if anyone doesn't think "Papist" is derogatory, I would ask them to take a stroll around The Falls road in Belfast and ask someone if they're a Papist. I'm sure the response will be interesting.…QUOTE]

Reading you number one, Cleon. But let’s remember that those people have little else going for them but their Catholic identity. Further, they still live in a seventeenth-century world of genuine religious war.

As for Tom Monaghan: Sure and it would be uncharitably wrong of us to hint that the bold Tommy has a wee little streak of the dictator in him, begob.

Google on this Little Brother of the Poor and you get 67,600 sites. He’s well known here in Michigan. I want to make a remark about a puffed-up tradesman who made money and now is utterly cocksure that everything he wants should come to him, with no questions asked, no opposition, and no dirty damned Protestant laws getting in his way – but that might give offense to a luking Catholic or two, and bring shame upon JREF.

 

[ceo_esq]

Reading you number one, Cleon. But let’s remember that those people have little else going for them but their Catholic identity. Further, they still live in a seventeenth-century world of genuine religious war.

Not to stray even further from the topic, but the Troubles are not really a religious conflict.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Not to stray even further from the topic, but the Troubles are not really a religious conflict.

How many religious conflicts really are religious conflicts, and not political or economic ones where one or both sides grabs religion as an excuse? Sunni versus Shiite in Iraq, for example...is it really about interpretations of Islam, or is it about control of the country (and all that delicious calorie-rich oil!)?

 

[Elind]

You knew that the emboldened term is an offensive slur, right? I strongly recommend not using it here.

Stongly recommend away, all you want.

Papist was meant as slur to those who think they should build their own little ghettos to get away from all the nasty influences of others.

Do you know what you should do if you don't like hearing that "here"?

 

[ceo_esq]

Do you know what you should do if you don't like hearing that "here"?

Encourage you to meditate on the membership guidelines and on the relationship between the JREF's wider interests and the appearance of sectarian slurs on the forum? No? Are we setting the bar too high?

 

[ceo_esq]

How many religious conflicts really are religious conflicts, and not political or economic ones where one or both sides grabs religion as an excuse?

Good question - possibly many - but I'm not sure that the participants in the modern Northern Ireland conflict even grab religion as an excuse, by and large, although there are surely religious bigots on both sides.

 

[Mark]

Jeb Bush has already come out in favor of this. Just so you know.

“This is a historic day, not only for Ave Maria University and Town, but also for Collier County and the State of Florida,” Governor Bush said. “This new town is the result of many years of work and partnership between state and local government and landowners to develop the Rural Lands Stewardship Program in Eastern Collier County. We thank the leadership of Ave Maria University for choosing Florida as the home for this new world class academic institution.”

http://www.naples.avemaria.edu/newscenter/newsdetail.asp?newsID=130

 

[Complexity]

Papist Papist Papist Papist Papist

All the Papists just want to have their own millionaire ghettos so they can get away from everyone else.

You knew that the emboldened term is an offensive slur, right? I strongly recommend not using it here.

ceo_esq - Quit being a control freak and a woo. Are you a papist, too?

The damned papists have nearly wet themselves in their haste to consign me to hell. You 'strongly recommend' that we not use an accurate term, 'papist', to describe them because it might offend them.

I hope it does.

Freedom of speech includes the freedom to offend.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Nobody's saying you can't offend. Just that we ought to be civilized about it.

The term "papist" is inappropriate in an argument against the Catholic stance on homosexuality anyway, as it is a specifically Protestant epithet used to express their disdain for the Catholic doctrine of having a pope.

 

[sackett]

Once an English missionary was walking down a street in Chendu, China. A little Chinese boy ran behind him, crying out “Foreign devil! Foreign devil!” At last the missionary rounded on the child, and in perfect Mandarin scolded him for his rudeness. When he finally ran out of wind, the boy looked at him and asked, “Well, if I can’t call you a foreign devil, what can I call you?”

But I concede that when it comes to epithets denoting nationality, race, or creed it’s the receiver, not the sender, who gets to call an out-of-bounds. I just imagined that “papist” was so very old-fashioned, even obsolete, that nobody could get huffy over it.

That was my fault and I admit it. I know better than anyone that Cardinal Ceo can home in on a Catholic topic like a – like a hawk on a chicken. Yeah, that’s a fairly flattering simile.

 

[ceo_esq]

ceo_esq - Quit being a control freak and a woo.

That's the first time anyone's ever described me as a "woo", to my knowledge. I realize, of course, that you're a relative newcomer here and may not understand what the term woo generally signifies.

Are you a papist, too?

Oh, please. You should hear what you sound like now. What kind of question is that? If I'd suggested that it might not be a good idea to throw around anti-Jewish epithets on this forum, would you now be asking me "Are you one too? Or just a Jew-lover?"

Freedom of speech includes the freedom to offend.

Technically true, but irrelevant in this context. Sounds good, though, doesn't it?

 

[sackett]

Department of Free Advice

Don't try it on with ceo_esq unless you're having a really good day.

He smile like a angel but he bite like a gator. Or the other way around? Anyway.

 

[joobie]

No kidding. Domino's tastes like cardboard with tomato sauce.

well yeah, but you can buy 3 of them for $15.