Australian Federal political polls

[Hallo Alfie]

Exactly - an appalling record, I agree.
There is more too.

 

[amb]

Plus she's a woman.

Helen Clark is a woman too, as is the German leader, difference been they are very competent and both have done/doing a good job.

 

[lionking]

Anyone who doesn't see the sexist undercurrent in posts of the Gillard haters here aren't reading the same thread as me.

 

[Legend]

I guess that means you don't actually have any "reasonable and substantive" arguments as per your previous comment.

No, it means what you said was nonsensical.

A few more than two. Here's a reminder:

- An unpopular and distrusted leader

Zero specificity, blanket statement.

- Craig Thompson

Not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.

- sneaky backroom deals

Zero specificity, not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.

- the real Julia

Zero specificity, makes no sense.

- faceless men

Zero specificity, makes no sense.

- dismantling the Pacific Solution

Hahahaha, that was Kevin Rudd.

- a minority coalition-type government with the morons Greens and independents that lurches from disfunctional to functional at various times.

This is no reflection on her prime ministership, it's how democratic politics works sometimes.

- the new real Julia

Duplicate trying to be smart, zero specificity, makes no sense.

- An unpopular carbon tax based on deceptions and the biggest act of bastardisation backflip in Australian political history.

"Deceptions" is supposition, but aside from the potential hyperbole, I'll let you have this one.

Congratulations, you have made one point so far.

- Abject failure on border protection, boat arrivals and offshore processing.

Zero specificity, blanket statement.

- Deaths on the rocks at Christmas Island.

A heartless attempt at placing the onus of responsibility on the prime minister for a tragedy she could not control.

- East Timor

Zero specificity.

- A history of appalling delivery on projects.

Zero specificity, blanket statement, not a dot point.

- BER

Zero specificity, another implementation of the Rudd government, not the Gillard government.

- Pink Batts

Zero specificity.

- the real real new Julia

Trebling this point doesn't make it worth anything.

- Policy backflips and abandonment of Party policy

Zero specificity, blanket statement.

- The knifing of an elected prime minister

Not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.

- The Malaysian solution

This is essentially the same point you've made in other "bullet points" that you're trying to stretch into making some sense. Zero specificity.

- The NBN and overruns

Zero specificity.

- Mining tax

Zero specificity.

- one more try at a new Julia

Sigh.

- Gay marriage

She doesn't support it. Her party voted to change its position. She allowed a conscience vote. That is about the weakest criticism of her that you could possibly make.

- Peter Slipper

A very sound tactical move working within the boundaries of the Australian political system, not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.

- Union money

Zero specificity.

- Silencing of media dissent

Zero specificity.

- Australia network contracts

Zero specificity.

FINAL SCORE: 1.

¹/₂₈ = 3.6%

You have mentioned things she's done (and some things she hasn't) and have not elaborated on any of it whatsoever nor made any attempt to reason any of your points, they do not count just because you mention them. You have to make a connection to them being detrimental to Australia, otherwise you're just chanting.

Is it?
Evidence please?

Actually, repeating the same behaviour and expecting a different result, is insanity.

Are you not seeing the blatant relevance?

Obsession is making another poster's comments your signature.
Interestingly it was you I mimicked, and your words I copied. derp derp.

It would appear that you're calling half the forum obsessed.

 

[amb]

It's Labor that's on the nose and Gillard in particular. Since this government came to power, they have blown billions of dollars on ideology projects that have done absolutely nothing but get us into more debt for the country. Fancy spending over 30 billion on the NBN when it should be private enterprise who should build it if it's needed at all. And that's just the start. AA Alfie has already written a list of good money been thrown after bad.

 

[lionking]

Yes, and that idiot Labor government ensured that Australia was just about the only country not to go into recession during the GFC. Pity that.

 

[Akhenaten]

AA Alfie has already written a list of good money been thrown after bad.

It doesn't seem to be a very good one. Will you be answering Legend's rebuttal or will Alfie be doing that for you as well?



And it's "Being"!

 

[amb]

No, it means what you said was nonsensical.



Zero specificity, blanket statement.



Not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.



Zero specificity, not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.



Zero specificity, makes no sense.



Zero specificity, makes no sense.



Hahahaha, that was Kevin Rudd.



This is no reflection on her prime ministership, it's how democratic politics works sometimes.



Duplicate trying to be smart, zero specificity, makes no sense.



"Deceptions" is supposition, but aside from the potential hyperbole, I'll let you have this one.

Congratulations, you have made one point so far.



Zero specificity, blanket statement.



A heartless attempt at placing the onus of responsibility on the prime minister for a tragedy she could not control.



Zero specificity.



Zero specificity, blanket statement, not a dot point.



Zero specificity, another implementation of the Rudd government, not the Gillard government.



Zero specificity.



Trebling this point doesn't make it worth anything.



Zero specificity, blanket statement.



Not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.



This is essentially the same point you've made in other "bullet points" that you're trying to stretch into making some sense. Zero specificity.



Zero specificity.



Zero specificity.



Sigh.



She doesn't support it. Her party voted to change its position. She allowed a conscience vote. That is about the weakest criticism of her that you could possibly make.



A very sound tactical move working within the boundaries of the Australian political system, not a reflection on her performance as prime minister.



Zero specificity.



Zero specificity.



Zero specificity.

FINAL SCORE: 1.

¹/₂₈ = 3.6%

You have mentioned things she's done (and some things she hasn't) and have not elaborated on any of it whatsoever nor made any attempt to reason any of your points, they do not count just because you mention them. You have to make a connection to them being detrimental to Australia, otherwise you're just chanting.



Are you not seeing the blatant relevance?



It would appear that you're calling half the forum obsessed.

Turning a blind eye to the bleeding obvious again I see.

 

[Legend]

I'm sorry? There was one tenable point raised by Alfie in that gaudy list of his. What are you on about?

 

[amb]

You fail to see their incompetents policy on the run and the damage they are doing to this country.

 

[Hallo Alfie]

I'm sorry? There was one tenable point raised by Alfie in that gaudy list of his. What are you on about?

These are the things that help form my opinion. They are as I said earlier subjective in some instances. You might think the carbon tax is a good thing, I don't. You might think Slipper or Craig Thomson zero reflection on her performance. I happen to think they show poor judgement.

You want me to expand on each point? What for? I am pretty sure we will only disagree on them and it will just be a waste of time. Perhaps you could convince me otherwise but I sincerely doubt it. But by all means, show me something substantive.

Taken in entirety, worst PM ever.
That is my opinion.

If you don't like it, I don't care.

 

[amb]

Perhaps Legend can enlighten us with a list of what this incompetent bunch of sponges have done good for the country.

 

[lionking]

Perhaps Legend can enlighten us with a list of what this incompetent bunch of sponges have done good for the country.

Incompetent? Fine. Which country would you prefer to live in at the moment? Italy?

 

[Legend]

You fail to see their incompetents policy on the run and the damage they are doing to this country.

You do understand that labelling your opposition blind to the facts while you constantly spew paragraphs of your armchair critiques supported by nothing but your interpretation of reality, comes off as hypocritical, not relevant?

These are the things that help form my opinion. They are as I said earlier subjective in some instances. You might think the carbon tax is a good thing, I don't.

It matters not whether I think it's good, nor whether you think it's bad. What matters is whether or not the tax is detrimental to Australia, if you can prove it is or at least why you think it is, then you have yourself a point. Until that time, your ramblings have no basis.

You might think Slipper or Craig Thomson zero reflection on her performance. I happen to think they show poor judgement.

You're still not understanding, you have to show us how, not just say how you feel because that is about as irrelevant to this discussion as the eye colour of my local butcher.

You want me to expand on each point? What for?

In order for you to have something meaningful, in order for this conversation to be perpetuated. If you're not interested in doing that, then what is the point of continually blabbing about your ridiculous thoughts about the prime minister being the worst ever, and why do you make these threads? Are you just trying to provoke people?

But by all means, show me something substantive.

You really still don't get it, do you? It's not up to me to say anything substantive, it's up to you to do that. Honest to God, the fact that I've got to reiterate that to you is actually pitiful.

Taken in entirety, worst PM ever.
That is my opinion.

If you don't like it, I don't care.

And the point of this pointless garbage is what?

Perhaps Legend can enlighten us with a list of what this incompetent bunch of sponges have done good for the country.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the machinations of how arguments work. Have I argued that the government is a good or competent one? No. I don't believe they are a bad government, but that's beside the point, I'm not here making the claims, I can sit back and drink tequilas and win by default. You repeating yourself and skimping on the details reflects badly on you, not me.

If you don't get the logic of that then perhaps a discussion like this isn't the best atmosphere for you.

 

[Sceptic-PK]

It's Labor that's on the nose and Gillard in particular. Since this government came to power, they have blown billions of dollars on ideology projects that have done absolutely nothing but get us into more debt for the country. Fancy spending over 30 billion on the NBN when it should be private enterprise who should build it if it's needed at all. And that's just the start. AA Alfie has already written a list of good money been thrown after bad.

You would have been against Telecom building phone lines originally wouldn't you? Haha.

Oh noes, look at all that debt!

 

[Akhenaten]

Perhaps Legend can enlighten us with a list of what this incompetent bunch of sponges have done good for the country.

No need to impose on Legend. Here ya go.

Enjoy!

 

[Hallo Alfie]

Worst PM ever (imo).

 

[amb]

No need to impose on Legend. Here ya go.

Enjoy!

OMG. A Labor Party manifesto. Surely such an intelligent post would have another source, not Labor Party rhetoric.

 

[lionking]

OMG. A Labor Party manifesto. Surely such an intelligent post would have another source, not Labor Party rhetoric.

How about responding to Sceptic-PK's post? As much as you would hate to admit it, Australia is kicking arse. Boat people and all.

 

[amb]

Luckily because we have something the rest of the world hasn't. Resources. Because had it not been for that, we would be in a much worse position than one half of the country is in.