Atheism Plus/Free Thought Blogs (FTB)

[Stout]

so, aplus is all about reaching out to POC, but it is wrong to support atheism for ' brown people'?

Yes, so it would appear.

I don't know where they stand when it comes to supporting atheism for brown Christians who live in the English speaking world.

 

[Stout]

I would think it can be thought of as intersex is about anatomy and genderqueer is about psychology and identity.

I've come to that conclusion as well.

 

[s_pepys]

Excellent video. I had no idea how divorced from reality these people were.

hello absurdwalls

you should check his channel. thunderf00t has an informative, well presented and unique way of putting issues into context most of the time.

lxxx

 

[Dani]

finally thunderf00t breaks his recent (understandable) silence on the issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKQdJR7F_I

lxxx

Hilarious, especially when the protagonists are the defendants of this nonsensical type of feminism.

Take for example the bit that starts at 7:00 more or less:

"Your right to do something ends the second that what it is you're doing hurts somebody else. You can wave your arms around but that right stops when you hit somebody in the nose. That also applies to things like language. I can say all manner of words, you know, I have the right to do that, I have the freedom of speech, but my right to do that ends the second that someone was affected by those words used."



Yeah, sure, that's a great idea!

 

[dasmiller]

Take for example the bit that starts at 7:00 more or less:

"Your right to do something ends the second that what it is you're doing hurts somebody else. You can wave your arms around but that right stops when you hit somebody in the nose. That also applies to things like language. I can say all manner of words, you know, I have the right to do that, I have the freedom of speech, but my right to do that ends the second that someone was affected by those words used."



Yeah, sure, that's a great idea!

"Freedom Of Innocuous Speech"

I'm sure that if America's Founding Fathers had been a more diverse, thoughtful group, that's what the 1st Amendment would have said.

 

[mijopaalmc]

The queerness of the Gödelqueer would itself be queer, the question is whether the queer queerness would then become straight?

Either that or I don't remember Gödel that well. Höfstadter was a waste of time anyway.

You might consider reading other popular works on Gödel, such as Gödel's Theorem: An Incomplete Guide to its Use and Abuse or Incompleteness: The Proof and Paradox of Kurt Gödel. Both spend some time trying to correct idealogically driven intrepretations of the theorems.

 

[Mr. Scott]

Originally Posted by APlusser
Are you saying atheists should not be working to "tear down" Islam or Hinduism?
response

Originally Posted by APlus mod
yeah, that's what she's saying.
and i agree. thhere's waaaay too much colonialism and white supremacy in our culture to even THINK about addressing the religion of brown people, the end.

So, religions of "brown people" get a free pass from APlussers? A more appropriate label would be A-.

Someone remind them that Christianity was originally a brown people religion.

The historically white religions, Germanic Paganism, Greco-Roman polytheism, etc. are all dead.

Christ as he might actually have looked if he existed:

More non-white Christs:

 

[Stout]

So, religions of "brown people" get a free pass from APlussers? A more appropriate label would be A-.

Someone remind them that Christianity was originally a brown people religion.

The historically white religions, Germanic Paganism, Greco-Roman polytheism, etc. are all dead.

Christ as he might actually have looked if he existed:

Acknowledged

They seem to be reverting to the standard social justice meme of not condemning a religion or culture outside of the one(s) they reside in unless those people being oppressed by that religion or culture specifically ask them to.

So A+ wouldn't condemn something like witch burning in Tanzania unless those who are currently on fire ask A+ for help. Then...they can condemn the burnings without worry of being labelled racists.

 

[AbsurdWalls]

McCreight's out, not that she ever did anything with A+ after suggesting it anyway.

Jennifer McCreight ‏@jennifurret
I'm sick of writing about feminism because I know too many people who have become Portlandia's feminist bookstore parody

Jennifer McCreight ‏@jennifurret
@JerryConlon @eclint leave me alone. I haven't looked at the atheism+ forums since they were made. I don't care. I've moved on from atheism

Jennifer McCreight ‏@jennifurret
@D4M10N No, hence why I have nothing to do with it. I can't stand any of you atheists any more, even the "liberal" ones

Jennifer McCreight ‏@jennifurret
@idebunkforme @JerryConlon @eclint I'm still an atheist, I'm just sick of the atheist movement

Also interesting to discover that the Slymepit, which I was taught to fear and disdain, is actually pretty similar in tone and attitude to this forum. Who knew?

 

[Paulhoff]

Paul

 

[devnull]

McCreight's out, not that she ever did anything with A+ after suggesting it anyway.

Funny.

So, she tries to shoehorn a bunch of unrelated stuff into the atheist "movement", finds that not everybody agrees with her, then spits the dummy. Mature.

About the only issues I can see that could be logically tied to the atheist "movement" would be separation of church and state, and improving the general public's view of atheists. After that, you're just going to cause arguments. Why is this not absolutely clear to everybody?

 

[Wildy]

McCreight's out, not that she ever did anything with A+ after suggesting it anyway.

Which is part of the problem. She creates this movement, does nothing to further it or even push it in the directions she envisioned, and now complains that the bigoted people who most people would consider straw activists are now pretty much in charge.

Don't know about you guys but I don't feel any sympathy for McCreight.

Also interesting to discover that the Slymepit, which I was taught to fear and disdain, is actually pretty similar in tone and attitude to this forum. Who knew?

When you think of it that way the only difference is that they can say "****" and it's not censored.

 

[Stout]

McCreight's out, not that she ever did anything with A+ after suggesting it anyway.

So she's just throwing the baby in the dumpster then. Strange, one would think that if the pressures of going out there in the world and telling people they suck only to have those people defend themselves, are getting to her she might want to retreat to the safe space where she could carry on like that yet be protected by the environment.

 

[Walter Ego]

Call The Traffic Police!

Matt Dillahunty is recording videos in his car again (in response to Thunderf00t)... while driving!

No one should do that! (Or record videos of themselves talking, either, even in a parked car.) Can this menace on our public roads be stopped?

 

[squealpiggy]

Matt Dillahunty is recording videos in his car again (in response to Thunderf00t)... while driving!

No one should do that! (Or record videos of themselves talking, either, even in a parked car.) Can this menace on our public roads be stopped?

He starts saying that TF is being dishonest then spends half the video making excuses for the things that TF was apparently being dishonest about.

I'm quite surprised at him actually, given that he experienced first hand the shrill paranoia of the very subjects of Tf00t's video. Oh well.

In other news I checked out the Slymepit and really saw nothing wrong with it. I too was expecting a seething hotbed of woman-hatred and I was surprised to see nothing of the sort. It must be my privilege showing.

 

[Walter Ego]

I checked out the Slymepit and really saw nothing wrong with it. I too was expecting a seething hotbed of woman-hatred and I was surprised to see nothing of the sort. It must be my privilege showing.

I'm registered on the Pit were I've been posting sporadically since I'm disgusted with JREF at the moment (don't ask). You can post as a guest without registering.

I like it because they keep me up to date on the latest hypocrisies from FtB, A+, Skepchick, et al, saving me the trouble of reading that crap myself.

Linkypoo: http://www.slymepit.com

 

[Krikkiter]

I checked out the slympit a while ago when all this A+ broohaha first hit the interwebz and I rather enjoyed the fact that they obviously don't take themselves too seriously. A+ on the other hand....

 

[RebeccaBradley]

I'm registered on the Pit were I've been posting sporadically since I'm disgusted with JREF at the moment (don't ask). You can post as a guest without registering.

I like it because they keep me up to date on the latest hypocrisies from FtB, A+, Skepchick, et al, saving me the trouble of reading that crap myself.

Linkypoo: http://www.slymepit.com

Ditto - registered way back, and sporadically post. I'd post more often, but the main thread moves so dadgummed fast that I can't keep up. Some very fine discussions, though, and not a woman-hater in sight.

 

[AbsurdWalls]

I checked out the slympit a while ago when all this A+ broohaha first hit the interwebz and I rather enjoyed the fact that they obviously don't take themselves too seriously. A+ on the other hand....

Is the slympit like the slymepit except you have to jog on the spot while you're reading it?

 

[Krikkiter]

Is the slympit like the slymepit except you have to jog on the spot while you're reading it?