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Quinn said:
I read that and thought it seemed seemed odd or at least redundant to include both "straight" and "sexual," as though someone was just desperate to create an acronym that sounded like "sarcasm." So I googled the term, and after that explanation, these were the next three results:

straight, affluent, white, cis-sexual, able-bodied, single male
Socially affluent white cis abled straight male
Straight able-bodied white cisgendered Anglo- Saxon Male

In other words, even people using the term with a straight face and no discernible hint of irony, can't seem to agree on which oppressive people it refers to. Apparently it's just shorthand for "everything we hate," wrapped up in an acronym that sounds suspiciously like a nonstandard pronunciation of a common word (which should surely be offensive to southerners, people with certain speech difficulties, and/or 3-year-olds who haven't yet learned to say their Rs right).
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Yeah, I thought the same thing, only I hadn't considered the "sexual" and "straight". Instead I zeroed in on the "straight" and "cis". Perhaps I don't have my Sj terms down yet, but doesn't't cis mean straight? I think they're trying too hard to be...um...clever and not grasping that it just comes off as childish and a bit pathetic.
 
No, cis is short for cisgender, contrasted with transgender. Transgender people can be gay, straight, or any other sexual orientation.
 
Empress said:
Yeah, I thought the same thing, only I hadn't considered the "sexual" and "straight". Instead I zeroed in on the "straight" and "cis". Perhaps I don't have my Sj terms down yet, but doesn't't cis mean straight? I think they're trying too hard to be...um...clever and not grasping that it just comes off as childish and a bit pathetic.
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I believe that "sexual" is there to contrast with those who identify as "asexual". After all, we can't leave out an important sexual identity, now can we?
 
luchog said:
I believe that "sexual" is there to contrast with those who identify as "asexual". After all, we can't leave out an important sexual identity, now can we?
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I considered that too, but it seemed to me that "straight" would already imply "not asexual." That is, unless it's possible to be straightly asexual versus gayly asexual -- "I'm not at all interested in sex, but if I were, it would be only with the opposite/same gender as me."
 
Quinn said:
I read that and thought it seemed seemed odd or at least redundant to include both "straight" and "sexual," as though someone was just desperate to create an acronym that sounded like "sarcasm." So I googled the term, and after that explanation, these were the next three results:

straight, affluent, white, cis-sexual, able-bodied, single male
Socially affluent white cis abled straight male
Straight able-bodied white cisgendered Anglo- Saxon Male

In other words, even people using the term with a straight face and no discernible hint of irony, can't seem to agree on which oppressive people it refers to. Apparently it's just shorthand for "everything we hate," wrapped up in an acronym that sounds suspiciously like a nonstandard pronunciation of a common word (which should surely be offensive to southerners, people with certain speech difficulties, and/or 3-year-olds who haven't yet learned to say their Rs right).
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Aren't they erasing the individuals with mental and emotional issues by not including something referring to them in their awful acronym?
 
Empress said:
I don't thing so, because I think cis white males don't have mental and emotional problems. Because patriarchy.
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Cis white males do have mental or emotional problems at times, but the correct social justice response is schadenfreude, because their ancestors were colonists.
 
SawcasmNT to fit neurotypical in?

Then it can look like "sarcasm" and a Windows reference at the same time.
 
I was always trying to fit "Person who needs a rabid gerbil shoved up their anus" into SAWCASM. It doesn't fit but it's the same sentiment.
 
Quinn said:
I considered that too, but it seemed to me that "straight" would already imply "not asexual." That is, unless it's possible to be straightly asexual versus gayly asexual -- "I'm not at all interested in sex, but if I were, it would be only with the opposite/same gender as me."
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Asexual does not rule out other orientation. That is, it's possible to find a member of the same or opposite sex aesthetically attractive, and even have long-term relationships; but not have any sexual desire for said person.
 
Mr. Scott said:
Cis white males do have mental or emotional problems at times, but the correct social justice response is schadenfreude, because their ancestors were colonists.
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Exactly. The issues that affect single, white, straight men now just don't matter, because some did terrible things hundreds of years ago, and there's a small number which are rather rich and powerful.
 
Well it seems that poor Ellie went full Fukushima when her mom wouldn't have any of Ellie's crap. Will Ellie grow up and move her 25 year old ass out of her parent's basement, will she escape the influences of the horrible "racists" upstairs ? Or will she continue to suck it up until she completes her correspondence degree in Disney? Only the shadow knows.

Wait...I thought black people couldn't be racist under the "sociology" definition of racism. This was content created by a black man, criticizing other black men's fashion choices, yet they call the content racist.

Check out this snippet of post by moderator Lovely.

IF you had said "there's a lot of classism in the image, too" that would be worlds apart. But you did not do that. You decided to try and compare. No one asked you to compare. No one asked for your opinion on said comparison. Instead of adding to the conversation in a helpful way you are derailing it to talk about why you think it's more classist than racist.
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Weird or what ?

There's a rumour floating around the Slymepit that ceepolk has flounced, Something about there being too many white people on the internet which, ironically leaves the A+ mod team and membership totally white.

Supremely white........
 
Whoa!! ceepolk flounced?!?! I wonder if that'll turn out to be true. There goes half the fun of that place. She's completely insane. And since she rounded on Setar I haven't seen xie posting much, so there goes that.

Right now Ellie is griping about the A/C unit being on the fritz and flooding the basement. I thought she lived down there, but apparently she has a bedroom upstairs because she's complaining about not wanting to have to move the stuff from the basement upstairs due to the A/C leak. How can she go on under such conditions?!?!

On another thread from a couple months ago that I just came across, Gaius is complaining about his grandmother being a racist. (90+ yo woman, so not surprising that she's got some racist tendencies.) He apparently has fond memories of her from childhood, and visited wherever she lives regularly. But she made some ridiculous statement that there should be a race war and all white people should kill all the black people. Assuming she actually said that, okay, obviously bad. But here's his response:

...to become so physically, psychologically, and emotionally disgusted that I couldn't bring myself to engage in conversation for over an hour, developed a migraine headache, extreme nausea and spontaneously began crying after about 30 minutes or so.

I think I actually want her to die now, certainly I can't imagine myself ever visiting that woman again, no matter how much I love everything about the place in which she lives. She essentially killed my fondest childhood memories of swimming and quahogging at the cape by making a statement that has not left my mind since it was made. I think it would have disturbed me less if she strangled a small child to death in front of me.
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So his grandmother makes an ugly, racist comment essentially wishing for something that's never going to happen, and his response is: I'd rather you strangle a real, live child than say something about wishing for a genocide. I just...don't...yikes.
 
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So his grandmother makes an ugly, racist comment essentially wishing for something that's never going to happen, and his response is: I'd rather you strangle a real, live child than say something about wishing for a genocide. I just...don't...yikes.
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I can't imagine how reality-distorting one's ego has to be in order to make a statement like that even if it were a joke. Narcissism to the point that seeing a child die would be preferable to having his "inner child" "killed"?
 
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