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Astrology as a God decree, Million Dollar Challenge

Mark --

I'm not a representative of JREF, but let me suggest a protocol to you:

You are given ten (10) birthdates of people who are unknown to you, listed 1 through 10, by a JREF representative. You generate your astrological results (for simplicity's sake, I will call them "readings"). Make sure that you do not reference the actual birthdate in the readings; simply label them 1-10.

You then give these to a different JREF representative (not the one who prepared the original list; rather, someone who will be unaware of which numbers match up to which birthdates and which people). This person distributes copies of all ten to each of the persons in the test pool.

Each person provides that representative a response: "Reading x is my reading" (where "x" is a number 1-10).

The representatives compare their results.

Is this possible, using your methodology? If so, how many out of ten would have to be correct? (In other words, what's your accuracy rate?)
 
I also want to add this:

Like everyone else has said, read the rules. This is really important, so I'll repeat it: read the rules.

Do you have media presence and academic support?
 
My mother likes to dabble in astrology, and I constantly point out the errors of her "readings". I don't want to call you, due to the same reasons that LossLeader expressed about cold reading, but I will post my birthdate information if you want to attempt a reading. Post everything here about me you can get.

Birthdate: December, 15, 1976.
Time of Birth: 11:37 am
Location of Birth, Bayshore Memorial Hospital, Pasadena, Texas (approx. 29 degrees 40' N, 95 degrees 10' W) Zip 77501
 
Nursefoxfire said:
For anyone interested, a quick Google search revealed Mark's Myspace blog:
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From the blog:

Mark said:
The Seven day Sabbath or Saturday is a code for Saturn and is Sabbado in Spanish. Saturn brings us change and is here to make us think and bring us to Christ. The Seven days are the seven visible close bodies in the heavens. Sun moon mercury venus mars jupiter saturn = 7. I can see the moons of Jupiter. But I have the eyes of 1 in 10,000 people. The rest of you can only see 7 heavenly bodies.
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Oh. My.
 
Hokulele said:
From the blog:


The Seven day Sabbath or Saturday is a code for Saturn and is Sabbado in Spanish. Saturn brings us change and is here to make us think and bring us to Christ. The Seven days are the seven visible close bodies in the heavens. Sun moon mercury venus mars jupiter saturn = 7. I can see the moons of Jupiter. But I have the eyes of 1 in 10,000 people. The rest of you can only see 7 heavenly bodies.
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Oh. My.
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Yeah.

I copy/pasted his drivel into a Word document so I could actually READ it. I think Astrology is his venue to attempt to pick up women.
 
astroman818 said:
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I am here to collect the Million Dollar Prize. To prove that there is a God and we were created beings.
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The JREF does not accept claims like yours for the Challenge because they are not falsifiable.

Also, you will need a media profile and a signed affidavit of an academic person to have your application accepted. Please read this.
 
astroman818 said:
I also did not believe in Astrology myself. I studied it to find answers. I found many. Two divorces made me check it for relationship related stuff. I found out who has sex with who and when. That has been the most interesting thing to know yet. I have kind of been lost in the women for years. Now that I know who is mine. I am only alone by choice.
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Let me try my hand at little cold reading. One, or both, your divorces involved your wife cheating with some other guy. You were hurt, but rather than look inside to learn something about yourself, you looked elsewhere to place the blame. You found the answer in astrology. But that "answer" hasn't helped you in the relationship department so you are alone and unhappy about that. To distract you, you taken the astrology stuff way too far and, without any feedback to control your thinking, you've bought into your own schtick full bore and now want to evangalize everyone else.

How am I doing so far, astroman818?
 
I just have a moment here and I want to thank all of you for being so kind to say hello and give your response to this. I promise this will be interesting as we go. Interesting how you already found me online I have been hiding for years. Just doing my research. Yes I did study people on Myspace.
 
If you haven't come up with a testable protocol by the end of the second (50-post) page of this thread, previous experience tells me you never will.
 
astroman818 said:
Interesting how you already found me online I have been hiding for years. Just doing my research. Yes I did study people on Myspace.
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First rule of hiding online, always use your real name on social networking sites!

The stars are telling me that the JREF forums will leave you in an eviscerated heap. ;)
 
Mark said:
Saturday is a code for Saturn
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It's not really much of a code, is it? I mean, "Saturday" is just a corruption of the phrase "Saturn's Day."

Monday is Moon Day
Sunday is ... um ... Sun Day

The only one that's the least bit difficult to figure out is Tuesday and that's because people are generally unfamiliar with the fact that there was a Norse god named Tyr.

My birthday is 10/3/70, Mark. I'm waiting for you to tell me whatever you can.
 
astroman818: welcome to the forum. I'm glad that you want to take the challenge. You may find many of us here skeptical, because many folks have made claims on the forum that weren't backed up with evidence, or the claims were too vague, etc. I would love it if your claims were legit. I would strongly suggest carefully reading the Challenge rules, as well as the forum here.

Good luck!
 
astroman818 said:
I just have a moment here and I want to thank all of you for being so kind to say hello and give your response to this. I promise this will be interesting as we go. Interesting how you already found me online I have been hiding for years. Just doing my research. Yes I did study people on Myspace.
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I respectfully suggest that we not get "interesting as we go".

Several posters have pointed out what needs to be done.

First, you must read the challenge rules. Secondly, you must develop a test. People here have offered suggestions.

If you're serious about the challenge, an interesting discussion is just a waste of time. If you want interesting discussion, I'd recommend you post in the paranormal forum.

Please, let's get down to brass tacks and start developing the outlines of a test.

If you're not going to do that now -- not later -- and if you're not going to read the challenge rules, you'll find that people here will become a lot less helpful and friendly because, well, you're just wasting our time.
 
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