Assistance required for telepathy proof

Hitch said:
Are you saying that you walk down the street and random people who you've never met and never spoken to call you a freak?

Or do they wait until after you start accusing them of reading your mind and lying about it to call you a freak?
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So he's a telepathetic then.....
 
nathan said:
I'd step away.

Sledge, I don't think you're mocking golfy. I think you're trying to have a rational conversation with him, and I have no argument with that. BH's attitude is no different to picking on the ginger haired kid at school.
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When one approach doesn't work...

The problem is golfy is either screwing with us, or mentally ill. If he is mentally ill ( a distinction that no one here, or anywhere for that matter can make online.) , encouraging his delusions is a bad thing. If he is screwing with us, he deserves it.

Either way you slice it, there is nothing really that can be said for treating him with kid gloves.

But all this is beside the point that if he wanted to he could prove us wrong, but isn't. He continually comes back knowing we are not going to accept his level of proof. If anything we could say would push him "over the edge" he should not have access to the internet.
 
nathan said:
I'd step away.

Sledge, I don't think you're mocking golfy. I think you're trying to have a rational conversation with him, and I have no argument with that. BH's attitude is no different to picking on the ginger haired kid at school.
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Ha, yeah. That used to be fun too, didn't it.
 
golfy said:
As for the sport thing, I have many examples but here is one for you to now deride and ask me to prove when I can't as it happened a long time ago. It is a fact non the less.

I caused the only multiple false start in F1 in 1999 at the Nurburgring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4W17xMVErw

You will see Eddie Jordan who owned Jordan F1 (the yellow car) looking into the camera with a glare of derision. This is Eddie telling me off for causing the false start by shouting "Go!" before the lights went out. I was in Ipswich, England watching it live.

People can hear a lot about me, when I talk, when I think etc. If I hear it then they do. I could write hundreds of examples but what good will that do – you will never accept that as reality unless I can back it up with objective evidence.
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It occurs to me that if golfy genuinely believes what I've quoted here, this could be the basis of a much easier, cheaper and more reliable test protocol than anything discussed so far.

Obviously taking credit for whatever cockups happen to occur after the event won't fly, but what if golfy specifies in advance a particular sporting event he is going to affect? It would need to be one that is televised, and where the effect of a momentary loss of concentration is quantifiable. I suggest this year's Wimbledon Tennis tournament.

In the course of the tournament golfy would select several matches which are going to be shown live, specifying the match and the particular player he is going to target on this thread before the match starts. At least one other poster will record the match in question (I have a Sky 1TR box and could do this easily).

For each match the procedure would be as follows:

1. golfy will target the 2nd, 4th (and 6th, 8th ... depending on how long the set lasts) service game of the chosen player in the first set, and their 1st, 3rd (5th, 7th ...) service game in the second set.

2. During each first service of each point in the targetted games, golfy will do his best to disturb the player's concentration by mentally shouting obscenities etc. At all other times golfy will quieten his thoughts (mute/look away from the TV) in order to disturb the players' concentration as little as possible

3. After the match the recording will be reviewed, and the percentage of successful first serves made by the targetted player in both targetted and untargetted games will be calculated. The percentage success rates can then be compared.

Unless the match is very one-sided we should have at least 20 targetted first services to compare to at least 20 untargetted ones in each match. I suggest a success criteria of at least 25% more faulty first services in at least 75% of the matches.

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Pixel42 said:
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Well, Golfy has claimed that everyone on this mudball can hear what he thinks 24/7. So since he cannot control his outpourings at all, anything that happens anywhere is what he personally chose to do. I would need to know what he predicted before any event, and not after.

So Golfy, back into yout court. Predict the event that Pixel42 just proposed, and then use your mental brilliance to do it. Better yet, predict how you have an effect on Sports, since you have already claimed to do so. Plenty of Tennis Tournaments, Soccer Matches, Rugby Matches, Australian Rules, Baseball, Cricket, Car races etc. Then we will all become true believers.

Since you have already made a similar claim about a Sport, you should have no trouble replicating it and convincing everyone here. So pick a future date and and a specific match/race, and go for it. You have alrady made a claim to be able to influence a car race, so now we know your power. All you need to do is tell us what you will do in a future Sports event, and we will wait until it comes true.


Here is your chance to provide evidence of your power. You have already told us that your thoughts can effect events.

Norm
 
Pixel42 said:
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Tennis matches are notorious for inconsistent play during games so there may be too many ambiguous hit/miss claims made regardless of whether there was influence or not. Too much opportunity for 'get out of jail free' card.

Why not get golfy to prevent any first serves for a given player in a given match. Perhaps try to affect player A in set 1 then player B in set 2?

The F1 season has also just got under way, seeing as golfy has already claimed success here, it would make sense to get him to try to false start the same driver on each race (next one is next Sunday)
 
FG10 said:
The F1 season has also just got under way, seeing as golfy has already claimed success here, it would make sense to get him to try to false start the same driver on each race (next one is next Sunday)
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In fact, he's claimed that he is responsible for the only time there was ever more than 1 false start. If this is true, then it should be trivial to make each and every Grand Prix have 2 false starts. It's a rare occurrence, if it's only happened once in all the years of F1, so if it happens in every race, then that strikes me as a good indicator that there's something to it.
 
I did another heads, tails and cat ship, tree, grass and car, truck test(s) today and had a few disappointing results.

In the first 5 tests the answers were all predicted correctly apart from the second test which the RX made a mess of.

The sixth one was about 50:50 on the lights and I could not reliably tell which answer was being indicated correctly and guessed wrong. After that there was a string of indications that were the other way. The answers became predictable, if the GSR gave a good indication that the answer was cat, then it would be ship. Within a few tests I knew what every answer would be but had to follow the protocol and started to get more predicted answers wrong than correct overall from the start of the test.

Statistically this shows that I am not telepathic, but reading deeper I would say that the last 5 answers that were 100% reversed and giving good readings on the GSR were unlikely to happen unless the RX was manipulating the GSR to give the wrong answer. He could only do that if he can hear me telepathically.

I know that you will stick with the statistics and say I have proved myself wrong, but all I see is the need for a more accurate, unmanipulatable test or try and learn what the RX was doing and find countermeasures for it.

golfy
 
golfy said:
I did another heads, tails and cat ship, tree, grass and car, truck test(s) today and had a few disappointing results.

In the first 5 tests the answers were all predicted correctly apart from the second test which the RX made a mess of.

The sixth one was about 50:50 on the lights and I could not reliably tell which answer was being indicated correctly and guessed wrong. After that there was a string of indications that were the other way. The answers became predictable, if the GSR gave a good indication that the answer was cat, then it would be ship. Within a few tests I knew what every answer would be but had to follow the protocol and started to get more predicted answers wrong than correct overall from the start of the test.

Statistically this shows that I am not telepathic, but reading deeper I would say that the last 5 answers that were 100% reversed and giving good readings on the GSR were unlikely to happen unless the RX was manipulating the GSR to give the wrong answer. He could only do that if he can hear me telepathically.

I know that you will stick with the statistics and say I have proved myself wrong, but all I see is the need for a more accurate, unmanipulatable test or try and learn what the RX was doing and find countermeasures for it.

golfy
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Everyone who predicted that you would interpret any result as successful and indicating that you are telepathic have a 100% success rate.
 
golfy said:
I know that you will stick with the statistics and say I have proved myself wrong, but all I see is the need for a more accurate, unmanipulatable test or try and learn what the RX was doing and find countermeasures for it.
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You've been given a protocol for a perfect, entirely accurate, entirely unmanipulable test. Tomorrow morning at 8AM, live on BBC 1 is the Malaysian Grand Prix. You have claimed that you can cause 2 false starts live on a Grand Prix while watching it on television. Repeat this. Tomorrow morning, cause 2 false starts on the Malaysian Grand Prix.

If you can do it, then you can do it again next week. Do it 4 races in a row and we can call it a successful test.

That's all you've got to do - repeat something that you already believe you've done, something which is a rare enough event that nobody else can put down to chance. Just create 2 false starts tomorrow and for the 3 races after that. It should be simple for you to do, it's something that nobody will be able to deny you did, it's easily falsifiable by you not being able to do it, and it's something that you shouldn't be able to rationalise away to yourself.

Just think - you joined nearly 3 years ago wanting to test your claim out. You can have a definitive answer by 22nd May. Sounds like a good deal, no?
 
jsfisher said:
How rare are false starts in such races?
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
In fact, he's claimed that he is responsible for the only time there was ever more than 1 false start. If this is true, then it should be trivial to make each and every Grand Prix have 2 false starts. It's a rare occurrence, if it's only happened once in all the years of F1, so if it happens in every race, then that strikes me as a good indicator that there's something to it.
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Single false starts reasonably rare -- I've not watched F1 for some time, but I expect a single false start happens less than once a year.
 
nathan said:
Single false starts reasonably rare -- I've not watched F1 for some time, but I expect a single false start happens less than once a year.
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golfy says he's responsible for the only double false start in F1 history. So a double false start 4 races on the trot while he's trying to cause 2 false starts on the trot sounds like a test with a very low probability of just being chance to me.

You're right that 4 false starts in 4 races would be unusual, but 8 in 4 races? It'd be difficult to argue with that and, crucially, it's something golfy has already claimed to be able to do.

It's a good protocol and, given the fact that golfy can do it, there's no reason for him to refuse to try either. In fact, if he can manage it, then I'd be surprised if we couldn't get the media interested by showing them a link to this thread with the relevant dates. Then he'd have a media presence, and be eligible for the MDC. The false starts might even be an acceptable protocol for the MDC itself. golfy says he wants to take the MDC, this seems to me to be a fantastic way to go about it.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You're right that 4 false starts in 4 races would be unusual, but 8 in 4 races? It'd be difficult to argue with that and, crucially, it's something golfy has already claimed to be able to do.
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To be fair, he claimed he did it once, which is not the same thing at all.
I can cause someone to startled by yelling at them, but not necessarily every time I do. Further, if I do it at a predictable time, chances are that by the 4th time they will expect it and brace themselves.
 
golfy said:
I did another heads, tails and cat ship, tree, grass and car, truck test(s) today and had a few disappointing results.

In the first 5 tests the answers were all predicted correctly apart from the second test which the RX made a mess of.

The sixth one was about 50:50 on the lights and I could not reliably tell which answer was being indicated correctly and guessed wrong. After that there was a string of indications that were the other way. The answers became predictable, if the GSR gave a good indication that the answer was cat, then it would be ship. Within a few tests I knew what every answer would be but had to follow the protocol and started to get more predicted answers wrong than correct overall from the start of the test.

Statistically this shows that I am not telepathic, but reading deeper I would say that the last 5 answers that were 100% reversed and giving good readings on the GSR were unlikely to happen unless the RX was manipulating the GSR to give the wrong answer. He could only do that if he can hear me telepathically.

I know that you will stick with the statistics and say I have proved myself wrong, but all I see is the need for a more accurate, unmanipulatable test or try and learn what the RX was doing and find countermeasures for it.

golfy
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You were so close with the first bolded statement, but couldn't quite get to the obvious conclusion.

As far as the second bolded statement, I can tell you exactly what that receiver was doing. He was simply unable to read your mind (much like every other person in the world), and there's no countermeasure for that. Sorry.
 
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