Assistance required for telepathy proof

For those "experts" who think I need mental health care, I have been waiting for that to build up and up so that I can now show you how wrong you all are with your unsubstantiated uneducated "talking in a very authoritative way about something you know nothing about" opinions.

I realised I was telepathic about 15 years ago. About 2 years later as a lot of people were taunting me and using the fact that they could hear my thoughts to endlessly play mind games. It caused a lot of trouble at work and eventually reached the Managing Director of the company. He sent me to see the company Doctor, who passed me on to an NHS Doctor, who passed me onto a psychiatrist. This was around 1997. The psychiatrist diagnosed me as a paranoid schizophrenic. Since then I have seen around 8 to 10 psychiatrists who have all diagnosed me with the same mental condition of paranoid schizophrenia.. All of them told me that the did not believe telepathy is in any way or form real or possible.

The second last psychiatrist though, said he was sceptical about the diagnosis but was not willing to go against the horde of previous psychiatrists that had diagnosed me as paranoid schizophrenic. I have an audio recording of this. His report concludes that I am suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. What kind of psychiatrist can be trusted that says he has a doubt about the diagnosis but yet still diagnoses me as paranoid schizophrenia.

He passed me onto another psychiatrist who after lengthy consultation diagnosed me as paranoid schizophrenic as well for around the 10th time by a professional psychiatrist.

I requested a meeting with him on a later date and took some recordings with me and showed him why I thought I was telepathic. His immediate response was despite that every psychiatrist I have ever spoken to has diagnosed me with paranoid schizophrenia, that in fact I was not paranoid schizophrenic. Paranoid schizophrenia is all in the mind and cannot be substantiated with audio recordings as mental delusions are not in the real world and therefore cannot be recorded in any way. He said he understood why I thought I was telepathic but said I was suffering from a permanent delusion disorder. i.e. the I am misinterpreting what I am hearing and seeing incorrectly much like a guy suspecting his girlfriend is having an affair when she is simply organising a surprise birthday party in secret and therefore acting evasively and causing understandable suspicion by her boyfriend. The suspicion though about her having an affair is simply the wrong conclusion – the analysis that she is in fact acting suspiciously is in fact correct. Hardly mentally ill though is it?

I showed him more evidence and he then said that it is all just coincidence. Coincidence is not a mental illness in any way. I am now not obliged to see any psychiatrists or have any mental health processionals monitor me for an illness (paranoid schizophrenia) which I did not have in the first place. All compulsory mental health visits by psychiatric nurses and compulsory periodic visits to see a psychiatrist have been dropped as I am not deemed to be mentally ill.

Are you mental health “experts” happy now?

Any comments from our local "professionally registered psychiatrist" Skepdan?

It's been painfully obvious for some time now that Rolfy has some serious mental health issues.
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Making snap judgements about a subject you are not an expert in is very dangerous Skepdan - you are not an expert, do not make a decicive statement about something you "painfully obviously" know nothing about.

golfy
 
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The latest revelation about reporting the doctor to the police is especially disturbing.
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I agree - it is especially disturbing for the Doctor (and others) if she is found to be guilty.

golfy
 
Out of interest - does anyone seriously think that a Doctor would let a "patient" banter her like that unless she was on the defensive as a guilty person.

Would our resident expert psychiatrist Skepdan like to comment to enlighten us all?

golfy
 
golfy said:
For those "experts" who think I need mental health care, I have been waiting for that to build up and up so that I can now show you how wrong you all are with your unsubstantiated uneducated "talking in a very authoritative way about something you know nothing about" opinions.

I realised I was telepathic about 15 years ago. About 2 years later as a lot of people were taunting me and using the fact that they could hear my thoughts to endlessly play mind games. It caused a lot of trouble at work and eventually reached the Managing Director of the company. He sent me to see the company Doctor, who passed me on to an NHS Doctor, who passed me onto a psychiatrist. This was around 1997. The psychiatrist diagnosed me as a paranoid schizophrenic. Since then I have seen around 8 to 10 psychiatrists who have all diagnosed me with the same mental condition of paranoid schizophrenia.. All of them told me that the did not believe telepathy is in any way or form real or possible.

The second last psychiatrist though, said he was sceptical about the diagnosis but was not willing to go against the horde of previous psychiatrists that had diagnosed me as paranoid schizophrenic. I have an audio recording of this. His report concludes that I am suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. What kind of psychiatrist can be trusted that says he has a doubt about the diagnosis but yet still diagnoses me as paranoid schizophrenia.

He passed me onto another psychiatrist who after lengthy consultation diagnosed me as paranoid schizophrenic as well for around the 10th time by a professional psychiatrist.

I requested a meeting with him on a later date and took some recordings with me and showed him why I thought I was telepathic. His immediate response was despite that every psychiatrist I have ever spoken to has diagnosed me with paranoid schizophrenia, that in fact I was not paranoid schizophrenic. Paranoid schizophrenia is all in the mind and cannot be substantiated with audio recordings as mental delusions are not in the real world and therefore cannot be recorded in any way. He said he understood why I thought I was telepathic but said I was suffering from a permanent delusion disorder. i.e. the I am misinterpreting what I am hearing and seeing incorrectly much like a guy suspecting his girlfriend is having an affair when she is simply organising a surprise birthday party in secret and therefore acting evasively and causing understandable suspicion by her boyfriend. The suspicion though about her having an affair is simply the wrong conclusion – the analysis that she is in fact acting suspiciously is in fact correct. Hardly mentally ill though is it?

I showed him more evidence and he then said that it is all just coincidence. Coincidence is not a mental illness in any way. I am now not obliged to see any psychiatrists or have any mental health processionals monitor me for an illness (paranoid schizophrenia) which I did not have in the first place. All compulsory mental health visits by psychiatric nurses and compulsory periodic visits to see a psychiatrist have been dropped as I am not deemed to be mentally ill.

Are you mental health “experts” happy now?

Any comments from our local "professionally registered psychiatrist" Skepdan?




Making snap judgements about a subject you are not an expert in is very dangerous Skepdan - you are not an expert, do not make a decicive statement about something you "painfully obviously" know nothing about.

golfy
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10 professional, trained, doctors have diagnosed you with paranoid schizophrenia, so that proves you are not.

There is us shown wrong.
 
Dear golfy,

I wish you only the best on your road to recovery. Paranoid schizophrenia is treatable but takes vigilance and patience. You may never recover fully but major symptoms can be kept in cheque.

Schizophrenia is the reason you believe you possess telepathy. You are not telepathic. You do suffer from a serious illness.

My only advice is to ask you to stop posting here and concentrate on your recovery. This will be my final post in this thread. I don't expect it, but I hope others will follow suit and let this thread die.

From the bottom of my heart, golfy, I hope you get well. Good luck to you. Feel free to PM me anytime.

Yours,
DAO
 
golfy said:
He said he understood why I thought I was telepathic but said I was suffering from a permanent delusion disorder. i.e. the I am misinterpreting what I am hearing and seeing incorrectly
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Do you think you're misinterpreting what you're hearing and seeing, or do you think you're actually telepathic?

I showed him more evidence and he then said that it is all just coincidence. Coincidence is not a mental illness in any way.
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Do you think it's coincidence, or do you think you're actually telepathic?
 
I thought that Dumb All Over and the other, in my opinion, low intellect conclusion jumpers would have a field day with the psychiatrist statements and they predictably did.

Perhaps they are easily misled in a direction that they want to go im.

I deliberately put in a key statement that people of higher intelligence would jump on and simple “lame duck criticisers” would miss completely in their desperate attempt to make me give up on achieving proof of telepathy.

If a psychiatrist indicates that the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia is shaky but still concludes that I am a paranoid schizophrenic then he is not to be trusted as accurately diagnosing anything correctly if his reason for doing so was he simply will not go against the opinion of his colleagues for fear of criticism from them. How does this serve anyone in a search for the truth. This is how serious events get covered up. But perhaps our resident “expert” Dumb All Over (well he is obviously not dumb in just one place is he?) can enlighten us with some words of wisdom. All he has ever got right is his name.

One of the most important statements that all the psychiatrists make and that I wrote down as a clue for you "interlectual analysts" is “All of them told me that they did not believe telepathy is in any way or form real or possible.”

How can anyone make a balanced judgement between evidence that shows signs of possible schizophrenia and also indicates possible telepathy. Anyone who believes that “telepathy is not in any way or form real or possible.” will always diagnose an (unknown to the psychiatrist) already scientifically proven telepath as a paranoid schizophrenic if the telepath describes what he/she experiences to such a blinkered psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will always only conclude one answer – paranoid schizophrenia. As the telepath has already been scientifically proven that with some people he/she is telepathic, the blinkered “telepathy is not in any way or form real or possible.” attitude of a psychiatrist and therefore “you are a paranoid schizophrenic” is of little or any value as it is blinked, one sided lack of evidence conclusion jumping with no other diagnosis possible apart from paranoid schizophrenia in a two option scenario. This is how psychiatrists get things wrong ten times in a row, total close mindedness.

These diagnoses of paranoid schizophrenia were jumped to based on spoken word accounts of my experiences to psychiatrists who all made the same diagnosis. As I have already clued you to, when actual evidence was introduced to the psychiatric sessions, the evidence trumped the spoken word of account to the extent that the psychiatrist dropped the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. More evidence led to a further dropping to “coincidence” and then to a dropping of all mental health care. Of course the panel of intellectuals such as Dumb All Over know better and those are the ones that whose advice I should be adhering to, not my own logic and judgement which ahs served me well against all critics.

Repeatable scientific evidence always trumps subjective opinion, even ten psychiatrist in a row.

golfy
 
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Do you think you're misinterpreting what you're hearing and seeing, or do you think you're actually telepathic?
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The scientific evidence for the University of Northampton and the C/S test shows I am telepathic but is as yet not enough to back me up fully. More tests needed to be 100% certain so I will conduct more tests when I can.

golfy
 
Dumb All Over said:
Dear golfy,

I wish you only the best on your road to recovery. Paranoid schizophrenia is treatable but takes vigilance and patience. You may never recover fully but major symptoms can be kept in cheque.

Schizophrenia is the reason you believe you possess telepathy. You are not telepathic. You do suffer from a serious illness.

My only advice is to ask you to stop posting here and concentrate on your recovery. This will be my final post in this thread. I don't expect it, but I hope others will follow suit and let this thread die.

From the bottom of my heart, golfy, I hope you get well. Good luck to you. Feel free to PM me anytime.

Yours,
DAO
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I completely agree, and this will be my last post in this thread as well.

Everyone, this is a serious situation and my suggestion is that no one should post on this thread anymore, save one last post in which you wish golfy well and hope he agrees to whatever treatment is appropriate.
 
Anyone else here who things this thread should be put into " Put up or shut up" mode?

By this i mean no more meaningless conversation until Golfer provides some actual proof?

I mean 17 pages, and countless days in, and it is still just him saying " I am not insane i am right."
 
You know, the more i think of the use of the polygraph in this the siller it seems, using one unproven method to prove something else unproven is akin to using the physiology of dragons to explain that of Manticors.

Or to put it another way. Anyone could do this using two unproven concepts and a little brainpower.

I could prove that i have a superpower ( and one that is much more interesting and useful than the op's superpower.) of being completely immune to poison. All i need is a homeopath to help me.

I would have the homeopath make a homeopathic concoction of a substance that provides health benefits, thereby making a rather nasty poison. Assuming this is made in proper homeopathic fashion, i will then down as much of this substance as my stomach will take, and i can assure you that i will have no ill effects.

This is no different than you attempting to use the polygraph as proof of your powers golfster.
 
Paul2 said:
I completely agree, and this will be my last post in this thread as well.
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It sounds like a single psychiatrist thought that golfy's belief in his telepathy was simply him mistaking coincidence for a paranormal ability (as many mentally healthy people have been known to do) rather than the symptom of paranoid schizophrenia the other nine thought it was. Either way it's clear that golfy doesn't have any telepathic ability, and that nothing we say here will convince him of that fact. So I too see no point in continuing to post.
 
Dumb All Over said:
Dear golfy,

I wish you only the best on your road to recovery. Paranoid schizophrenia is treatable but takes vigilance and patience. You may never recover fully but major symptoms can be kept in cheque.

Schizophrenia is the reason you believe you possess telepathy. You are not telepathic. You do suffer from a serious illness.

My only advice is to ask you to stop posting here and concentrate on your recovery. This will be my final post in this thread. I don't expect it, but I hope others will follow suit and let this thread die.

From the bottom of my heart, golfy, I hope you get well. Good luck to you. Feel free to PM me anytime.

Yours,
DAO
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Paul2 said:
I completely agree, and this will be my last post in this thread as well.

Everyone, this is a serious situation and my suggestion is that no one should post on this thread anymore, save one last post in which you wish golfy well and hope he agrees to whatever treatment is appropriate.
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I agree. Good luck, golfy. One last thing, I don't know how long it has been since you have been treated, but they have some terrific new drugs for treatment of schizophrenia.
 
golfy said:
All compulsory mental health visits by psychiatric nurses and compulsory periodic visits to see a psychiatrist have been dropped as I am not deemed to be mentally ill.

Are you mental health “experts” happy now?

golfy
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Golfy, I would suggest that you continue to see a psychiatrist while you perform your experiments. Allow me to make my case.

1. I believe it is likely you suffer from a mental disorder. Apparently coworkers in the past have also felt this way. Many psychiatrists have apparently felt that you suffer from schizophrenia. The last one you went to said you suffered from permanent delusion disorder, which you took to mean that you don't suffer from any mental disorder. At a minimum, you have one psychiatrist disagreeing with many. It is likely the one is mistaken. I would recommend getting a second ... er eleventh opinion.

2. Even if you refuse to acknowledge that you might have a mental disorder, you seem to understand that most people will view your claims this way. it's unlikely that your claims will be taken seriously if people think you need help. Therefore, preemptively seeing a psychiatrist will head off people who would try to ignore your research in order to convince you to see a psychiatrist. You will be taken more seriously if any mental conditions are already addressed.

3. Lastly, if we assume that you're telepathic and that you're mentally sound, you are planning on doing experiments with telepathy. You're basically planning on experimenting with your mind, something not very well known. It could be risky to your mental well being and it wouldn't hurt to have a psychiatrist monitoring you during these times.

Golfy, please take my suggestions seriously.
 
Let me try again.

Hitch said:
Two simple questions for Golfy:

Do you believe that most people in the world can hear your thoughts?

If so, do you believe that most of those people would lie to you about their ability to hear your thoughts?
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Seems all golfy has to do to prove the psychiatrists wrong is prove that telepathy exists. I wonder why he hasn't done so yet?
 
Can no one see the logic that if I say to the tenth psychiatrist what I said to the other nine and he concludes the same thing as the other nine, paranoid schizophrenia, then that is no surprise.

If I then show the tenth psychiatrist some actual evidence, reasons why I think I am telepathic and he then drops the paranoid schizophrenia diagnosis to delusional disorder, then with more evidence drop it to coincidence (this is not a mental illness) then you say it is 9 versus 1. This concludes that psychiatrists can be wrong and will update their diagnoses with ever increasing evidence.

It is not 9 versus 1 as if the 9 were shown the all same evidence that the 10th was shown, how can you say conclusively that it would not be 10 out of 10 saying that the paranoid schizophrenia diagnosis is unsound.

9 psychiatrists with little information concluding paranoid schizophrenia is not the same as 9 psychiatrists with all the info the 10th psychiatrist had. They may have and probably would have sided with logic, evidence that I showed to the 10th psychiatrist indicated that I was not a paranoid schizophrenic as explained before would not have led them to the conclusion that I am a paranoid schizophrenic as they did with little information and no recorded evidence.

If new evidence was shown to the 9 they why would they not have updated their diagnoses like the 10th did?

Logic lesson for the mentally challenged. Hypothetically I tell 9 psychiatrists that I am hearing voices in my head - 9 diagnose me as paranoid schizophrenic. I go to see a tenth and he diagnoses me as paranoid schizophrenic. I update him with the fact that I have a surround sound system that is *********** brilliant which is causing me to hear the actors voices in my head, not in the room. The 10th psychiatrist changes his diagnosis to not mentally ill.

This is now 9 versus 1 so the 9 are correct? I think not superficial thinkers.

I update the other 9 with the surround sound info – their diagnoses are now what exactly? Still paranoid schizophrenic – if you think so please explain why in writing using logic.

Misinformed, lack of logic thinking being used to conclude something about me by yourselves leads me to think that if you were telepathic and were diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic by 10 psychiatrists, then you would be beaten by your own mental weakness and inabilty to reason and would never prove yourself to be actually telepathic against a little misinformed logic and shaky blinkered close minded diagnoses by psychiatrists.

I think more than this and look deeper into the evidence and situations that any of you seems to despite my endless clue throwing, but it simply goes over your heads and you conclude the superficially obvious – Columbo’s you are not.

golfy
 
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Why haven't you proved you're telepathic, golfy? There's a million dollars waiting. Go and get it.
 
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