Assistance required for telepathy proof

golfy said:
How can you not understand the above statement?

The cat ship (C/S) test repeated numerous times will automatically prove I am telepathic, i.e. doing numerous C/S tests with numerous people and getting repeatable results is then proof of telepathy. Putting in an app is not the same thing. I would only do that once I know my tests work repeatedly and are accurate. Repeated accuracy is proof of telepathy before an app is made.

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If a person can repeatedly find the correct card that you randomly pick from a deck, that's a 1 in 52 chance. If they can perform this feat 3 times, that significantly beats the 1 in 1000 chance. That proves they're psychic. How else could they know what card you randomly picked?


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If a person can repeatedly find the correct card that you randomly pick from a deck, that's a 1 in 52 chance. If they can perform this feat 3 times, that significantly beats the 1 in 1000 chance. That proves they're psychic. How else could they know what card you randomly picked?
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Or that the person that they chose the card from is telepathic.

golfy
 
golfy said:
The JREF would not entertain even watching a video of your claim?

golfy
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Probably not, golfy. Challenge Rule number 2 states:
Only an actual performance of the stated nature and scope, within the agreed-upon limits, will be accepted. Anecdotal accounts or records of previous events are not acceptable.
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golfy said:
I have sent the recording to the Police in England as I would like to take my case further against the NHS (Health Service) in the UK. This may provide me with proof of telepathy through Police investigation before I get to a JREF claim.

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What? I have read through the thread but where did the NHS come into it?

Which 'Police in England' didyou send it to?
 
That's correct wardenclyffe, another unsubstantiated, incorrect comment from Dumb All Over
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Another opportunity to be reported to the headmaster for not spelling my words correctly. I wonder if I will get detention after school?

What? I have read through the thread but where did the NHS come into it?

Which 'Police in England' did you send it to?
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The NHS is the National Health Service in the UK. The Doctor is part of the NHS. The NHS are therefore employing a corrupt Doctor if the C/S test is accurately repeatable with that Doctor as she is part of a cover up.

The Police are my business - why would I give their contact details to you? They are the local Police who I have been in contact with about this situation for a while.

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I can't help but think you missed the point of that last post.
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So please enlighten me - no explanation of what you mean by that comment means you are playing mind games. The original statment was a single conclusion of possibility i.e. the other guy is psychic and only that. There is another posibility - the card choser is telepathic and the other guy has no psychic ability.

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golfy said:
The NHS is the National Health Service in the UK. The Doctor is part of the NHS. The NHS are therefore employing a corrupt Doctor if the C/S test is accurately repeatable with that Doctor as she is part of a cover up.
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... what?
 
golfy said:
So please enlighten me - no explanation of what you mean by that comment means you are playing mind games. The original statment was a single conclusion of possibility i.e. the other guy is psychic and only that. There is another posibility - the card choser is telepathic and the other guy has no psychic ability.

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The fact that a magician can do a card trick accurately and repeatedly doesn't mean that either the magician or the participant are telepathic. In order to determine that, cheating must be controlled for.

Like wise, allowing you to use a protocol that uses a galvanic skin response machine, or polygraph will likely not be accepted by JREF because these machines will open up a channel of communication. Basically, a skilled person on the GSR can manipulate the data so that the "sender" can beat the test without having any paranormal abilities.

I'm not saying that you would try to do this, golfy. But there are definitely people who would. Therefore, protocols have to be negotiated so that someone with paranormal abilities will pass and someone without will fail. If you wish to enter the MDC, you should try to think of a way to test your abilities without using GSR.

In no way do I speak for JREF or on behalf of the MDC. I'm basing my belief that the JREF will not allow for a polygraph off of reading many protocol negotiations and what Remie said in this thread a couple years ago.
 
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Apparently, because she keeps lying (like everyone else in the world) by saying that she doesn't hear golfy's thoughts. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, that's what I was worried he was saying.

golfy, I'd like to ask you a question. Which do you think is more likely, given that you've think you are telepathic, that people lie to you about this, and that there is a conspiracy to suppress people's knowledge of your ability:
a) that you have developed an amazing ability that no one in the history of mankind has ever been able to prove, and that a conspiracy has sprung into existence to suppress this knowledge?
OR
b) that you have developed a mental illness that affects millions of people around the world?

As a follow up question, I'd like to ask why you think that.
 
Like wise, allowing you to use a protocol that uses a galvanic skin response machine, or polygraph will likely not be accepted by JREF
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I am tired of this - Please see You Tube with JR conducting a test with a claimant who uses a GSR as stated in a previous post.

To Sledge,

I will offer you £1000 (around $1600) if you can get past a cat ship test with me under scientifically observed (perhaps JREF) conditions once I have proven my ability. Does that give a clue to what my answer would be?

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I am getting bored with people who don't get the rules. The JREF and I must both agree on the protocol together for it to be viable.
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That's right...you must AGREE. That means if your protocol is faulty, the JREF will not agree to it.

I can tell you right now, they will not agree to polygraphs and your "ship-cat" test.

You can accuse people of name-calling all you want, but that doesn't change the cold, hard fact of the matter.
 
golfy said:
To Sledge,

I will offer you £1000 (around $1600) if you can get past a cat ship test with me under scientifically observed (perhaps JREF) conditions once I have proven my ability. Does that give a clue to what my answer would be?

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Prove that you have £1000 available and I might be open to discussing how I go about taking it off you. Until then, which do you think is more likely, given that you think you are telepathic, that people lie to you about this, and that there is a conspiracy to suppress people's knowledge of your ability:
a) that you have developed an amazing ability that no one in the history of mankind has ever been able to prove, and that a conspiracy has sprung into existence to suppress this knowledge?
OR
b) that you have developed a mental illness that affects millions of people around the world?

As a follow up question, I'd like to ask why you think that.
 
Question answered already - I have £1000. I am not in the habit of talking BS.

golfy
 
I can tell you right now, they will not agree to polygraphs and your "ship-cat" test.

You can accuse people of name-calling all you want, but that doesn't change the cold, hard fact of the matter.
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Yet again another unsubstantiated claim - show where the JREF state they will not use a poly or stop writing. You are not JR. Understand the $1M challenge and the protocol.

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golfy,

In previous trials, trials without the galvanic skin response meter or other electronics, you did not get the results you expected. You concluded it was because the test subjects were intentionally lying.

Now, with your newly assembled equipment, you tell us you will be conducting new trials. For the sake of discussion, let's just assume these tests also fail to produce the result you expect.

What will you conclude in such a case? Will it be
  1. The equipment is faulty. Some adjustment or repair is necessary.
  2. The equipment is working properly, but the test subjects were deliberately controling their GSR to disrupt the testing.
  3. You may not have the telepathic ability you had thought.
  4. Something else entirely.
Please answer honestly.
 
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