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[jaydeehess]

JD,

Allow me to explain what you're not understanding...



What you're saying would be true for normal thermite. But not for SooperThermite.............

.....................Glad I could help.

Tom

Got it. Now why hasn't the TM explained it as well as you did?

I had always wondered about this quantity of molten metal , sometimes described as a 'lake' or a 'river', and what became of it after it actually did cool. Where, I asked myself and the occassional TM'r, was the solidified mass? When was it removed? Obvious there was a varient of SooperThermite (I prefer the term super-nano-therm?te, personal preference).
After reading your above post I did a little research of my own and found the variant known as super-nano-thermote which first melts steel then continues to heat the molten steel for weeks thus vaporizing it until only a tiny mote of steel is left behind to solidify. This would account for the dissappearance of a lake of molten metal.
There is also the variant known as super-nano-thermolite which gets hotter and hotter over weeks and eventually burns a small hole right down to the Earth's mantle, the molten steel then drains down the hole and is never seen again. This would account for the dissappearance of a river of molten metal.

 

[BasqueArch]

JD,

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From the characteristics that you've described, I think that it pretty clear that the towers were brought down with Military Grade SooperThermite of the -LTFHB -MYOMM(G) -NSIY(LN) -SLP -XS -xBa variety.

Glad I could help.

Tom

Thank you Tom for the usual well researched assignment.

Just a note for our meeting next Friday - Military Grade SooperThermite of the -LTFHB -MYOMM(G) -NSIY(LN) -SLP -XS -xBa is in stock and on sale at Home Depot. Tom can you prepare a report for us on the amount necessary for that job in Iran in March?
JD, I hope the transmission got fixed and you can bring your pickup truck next week. Chewy and beachnut, we'll need an extra pair of hands for the "wedding cake."
Ryan, Barack would like an update.

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"To a truther, having double standards simply means they're better than the average person, because they have twice as many standards."- CI1mh4224rd

 

[jaydeehess]

The transmissions fine now but is my Ranger big enough? I could borrow a buddy's F-350 and 20 foot lo-bed trailer.

 

[tsig]

Thank you Tom for the usual well researched assignment.

Just a note for our meeting next Friday - Military Grade SooperThermite of the -LTFHB -MYOMM(G) -NSIY(LN) -SLP -XS -xBa is in stock and on sale at Home Depot. Tom can you prepare a report for us on the amount necessary for that job in Iran in March?
JD, I hope the transmission got fixed and you can bring your pickup truck next week. Chewy and beachnut, we'll need an extra pair of hands for the "wedding cake."
Ryan, Barack would like an update.

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"To a truther, having double standards simply means they're better than the average person, because they have twice as many standards."- CI1mh4224rd

It's at Home Depot but they have it disguised as red and yellow paint* just to throw off the unwary. If you get the Self replicating type you'll only need a one gallon can of each.

N. B. Make sure you get the Stopper or it will cover the world.

*exterior rated

 

[BasqueArch]

It's at Home Depot but they have it disguised as red and yellow paint* just to throw off the unwary. If you get the Self replicating type you'll only need a one gallon can of each.

N. B. Make sure you get the Stopper or it will cover the world.

*exterior rated

Tsig ! Where were you at last Friday’s meeting? You’re a day late and a can of Military Grade SooperThermite -LTFHB -MYOMM(G) -NSIY(LN) -SLP -XS -xBa short.

“IwasdiscussingthejobwithHokuleleImightbealittlelateIlosttrackoftime. “ A little late?! You never showed at all! We had to call bill smith to fill in for you.

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"To a truther, having double standards simply means they're better than the average person, because they have twice as many standards."- CI1mh4224rd

 

[sylvan8798]

Look at picture 12, and ponder bill's contention that the NYPD should have run around to the neighboring buildings to gather up some fire extinguishers...

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/952077.html

 

[ve2vfd]

Sylvan ... Not just extinguishers, anti-sooper-dooper-thermite magical extinguishers! They shoot enchanted fairy dust and just one would have been enough to extinguish all the fires.

We all have them on our engines and trucks, but shhhhh the Men In Black don't want you to know this...

Pat

 

[jaydeehess]

Look at picture 12, and ponder bill's contention that the NYPD should have run around to the neighboring buildings to gather up some fire extinguishers...

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/952077.html

What could be simpler?

All you need to find is a guy, like the one in the picture, who is 145 feet tall and can weild the 28 foot tall can.( the flames are two storeys tall)

 

[Senenmut]

I missed this from earlier. Senenmut is of course trying to obsfucate with BS. I shouldn't even enable him by responding, but the rebuttal is so simple and has existed for so long that it should be pointed out.

or are you the one trying to obsfucate with BS. "simple" the rebuttal is not. the only thing your pointing out is that the eutectic experiemnt sisson did could only remove little metal in 24 hrs. we are talking about a massive amount of metal in 9 days. his experiment did nothing for science regarding how an office fire could "corrode" 15.9 mm of steel in 9 days. with science, one can replicate. did he replicate how an office fire with office materials (were talking about wtc7) could burn for 9 days and produce 15.9mm of "corrosion" to A36 steel column? NOPE!!!

• First of all, little metal was removed in the actual pieces pulled from the rubble piles to begin with. We're talking square inches here at most, and not that deep. Remember "Swiss Cheese"? How truthers reconcile that with thermite that would cut all the way through steel is beyond me, but the point is that the sulfidation erosion was spotty at best, and limited to only a few pieces. They're identified in the NIST report (forget which subreport).

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  little metal? what the hell are ya talking about. this is a massive amount of metal. this article was written oct 3, and dr astaneh was stating what he found 10 days after he got there:
  
  "For example, valuable information could come from analysis of the blackened steel from the floors engulfed in flame after the airplane collisions. Steel flanges had been reduced from an inch thick to paper thin, Astaneh said. "
  when i email him, ill ask for a date of when he saw this INCH missing!!!!!
  http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2001/10/03_grou.html
  
  and of coarse:
  "Parts of the flat top of the I, once five-eighths of an inch thick, had vaporized.”
  
  and again:
  "But that would not explain steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures, Dr. Barnett said."
  
  he states "steel members". that means more than one.
  
  
  

  • Second, for some odd reason conspiracy peddlers completely ignore the fact that the steel components spent far more time stewing in the rubble piles than they did between the point the jets struck and the towers collapsed. We're talking hours compared to days for the corroded pieces that Astaneh-Asl identified. The experiments that the Worcester group conducted demonstrated that the sulfidation attack did indeed result in a very small amount of metal being removed, but a good part of that was because the reaction rate was demonstrated to be very slow, on the order of hours to days. From one of their papers:
    

    
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    The experiment the Worcester group only ran for a day, and removed little metal. The affected steel in the rubble piles were exposed for days to weeks (yes, plural; Astaneh-Asl got to Ground Zero in a week, but obviously didn't conduct all his observations on the first day on site) and, while obviously eroding more than the WPI's test items, still didn't erode that much. Go figure. The fact that in both cases, little metal was corroded, and in both cases, took a fairly long time, and in both cases demonstrated the formation of a eutectic that would have been destroyed at temperatures an incendiary like thermite achieves pretty much demonstrates that the WPI group correctly identified the reaction.

    
    your quote "still didn't erode that much" says it all. try and find out from sisson just how much steel did erode.
    
    

    [*]The WPI group's experiments replicated the microscopic structure of the eroded areas of the recovered Ground Zero steel that exhibited this erosion. This is further evidence that they correctly identified the reaction. This goes on to show that this wasn't merely a hypothesis by the Worcester group, it was an analysis that identified what happened to those affected steel pieces. Senenmut doesn't comprehend this because he refuses to read for comprehension; rather, he's trying to find details he thinks he can use to falsify the truth with. That's his failing.

  
  they might have "replicated the microscopic structure of the eroded areas" but in NO way replicated the macro level of damage these steel columns endured. i comprehend that he cant replicate the reality that 15.9mm of a36 steel was gone in 9 days. your comprehension is one of FAITH. the faith you exhibit here is very telling of your "skeptic" persona. if you were a true skeptic, then you would also want to see science "corrode" 15.9 mm of A36 steel in 9 days!!!! his experiment that only removed "little metal in 24hrs" dosent cut it. your "faith" dosent rub off on me either.
  
  

  I encourage people to put him on ignore. We've been over the sulfidation corrsion and the significance of the eutectic formations with him before. He still tries to shoehorn conspiratorial proposals in with those observations while blatantly ignoring the fact that thermite would have completely obliterated eutectic formations. He doesn't learn.

  
  dosent thermate have sulfur in it? i guess that would make a "slag" consisting of iron, oxygen, and sulfur? why do you not think the sulfur in thermate would not attack the grain boundaries?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Senenmut,

And where's the evidence for your psycho babble?

 

[katetbetrue]

I have been arguing with several FB friends about this topic and have been unable to find the original source for the claim that only the South Tower had asbestos and that it was only up to the 39th floor. Do you know where I could refer them to? They are haranguing me about sources, even though they require none for their own pet beliefs. Thanks in advance.
P.S. I just realized this post sounds like a concern troll. I'm not sure how to convince you that I am not. I guess you could check out my FB page. Oops, apparently, I haven't made enough posts to link to URLs. Google Zachariah Wasson Facebook.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

You can try here: http://www.asbestos.com/world-trade-center/asbestos.php

It seems to be more of a rough estimate of where and how much asbestos was used. I've seen articles that say that it was used higher up in piping and cable runs in the north tower due to accessibility concerns during construction but everything I've seen says that it use was stopped before the ban because they knew that the ban was coming.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

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[njslim]

It was North Tower up to 37 floor when asbestos containing materials were banned

Over the years the asbestos was either removed during renovations or encapsulated
to prevent flaking . The encapsulated asbestos was colored green distinguish it.