Ask a Muslim anything

[Sledge]

It appears you have no intention of answering anyone. You are just here to preach your beliefs, then you simply ignore any disagreement.

Note to Christians: you and Muslims aren't so different after all.

 

[Leumas]

WHAT !?

Does anyone here do any research? I will have to dig up some pro-islamic web sites that insist that it was Mohammed who did this.

Dude, it was done so that people whould know that Mohammed was the messenger from Allah. Read the whole passage.

DC, the name Allah, in Arabic is seen in the clouds in some of the Apollo footage too. Kind of like Jesus appearing in burnt toast.

What moronic moslims MAKE UP about the religion is not the issue..... the only thing we can go by (Just like the Bible) is the Quran.

What the Quran and APPROVED Hadith (notice the caveat) say is what Islam is.

So when certain moslims misinterpret and add new myths....all that proves is that they are just as capable of EXAGGERATION and MYTHOLOGIZING as anyone else.

BUT.... just as the Bible is now a book so is the Quran....even the Hadith has been fixed and the bits that have been approved as true have been fixed too.

So when we want to criticize Islam we should go by its SCRIPTURES not by what some uneducated retards believe.....

Religions that have written and FIXED scriptures are to be debunked according to these scriptures not according to belief, since the scripture SHOULD BE the source of the belief.....in Islam this is DOUBLY true because they in fact do state that the quran is THE WORD OF GOD....


ETA: When we criticize someone who is liberal about Islam we point out that his views are not held by the Quran.... so I think we should be consistent....when idiotic views are held or too liberal ones are held we should debunk them (less so for the liberal ones though) by the reference to the scriptures.

 

[Leumas]

ppsst, i don't think there is any reason to be scared by the YHWH guy, Moses made it up. calm down, its just a myth.

Thanks DC.... I was worried there for a while...

 

[Leumas]

According to my muslim friends it was done in Meca to prove to the people that Mohammed was the messenger of Allah. Where do you get your information?

Where do you get your information? I imagine you get it from the same physical orifice where you got the information that I was a biblical fundamentalist.

BESIDES..... even if they believe it .... is it any different from STOPPING the sun and the moon for a whole day so that Joshua can kill more people?

Is it any different from REVERSING the path of the sun by 10 degrees to prove Hezekiah that his BOIL will be cured?


So what is the point....they believe the moon was rent apart by YHWH..... that is nothing compared to what he did in the Bible.

Also as DC pointed out..... look at the moon....they might be right after all

ETA: No one says that Joshua held the path of the sun and moon....it was YHWH.... no one says that Isaiah reversed the path of the sun....it was YHWH.... I think this is also the case in the Sura cited.

 

[I Ratant]

Wow - it's beautiful because it's so vague you can interpret it however you want and always be right?

Seriously?

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That is -the- problem with Islam.
It's so loosely structured than anyone can take any of it and run with it, and not be wrong.
Pretty much shows the lack of sophistication involved when it was invented.

 

[I Ratant]

ppsst, i don't think there is any reason to be scared by the YHWH guy, Moses made it up. calm down, its just a myth.

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And Moses is a myth all by himself.
Myth squared, as it were.
Throw in Father Abraham and all those other prophets,... and it's exponentially mythed.

 

[Virus]

Peace DC,

I think if a dude wants to marry another dude, that's their concern and not mine. I'm strongly pro-gay marriage because I believe, as an American, that our country was founded on the standard that all people have the same rights.

What if a dude wants to marry a kid?

Top Saudi Cleric just issued a fatwa saying kids are kosher.

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/9956/new-saudi-fatwa-defends-pedophilia-as-marriage

 

[DC]

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And Moses is a myth all by himself.
Myth squared, as it were.
Throw in Father Abraham and all those other prophets,... and it's exponentially mythed.

 

[Leumas]

http://quran.com/54

Here is proof that the whole thing is talking about END TIMES


Sura 54:1

The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].


Sura 54:7

Their eyes humbled, they will emerge from the graves as if they were locusts spreading,

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Here is proof that the whole thing is talking about END TIMES


Sura 54:1

The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].


Sura 54:7

Their eyes humbled, they will emerge from the graves as if they were locusts spreading,

Sorry. Wrong translation.

How about:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/054.qmt.html#054.1-2

054.001
YUSUFALI: The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder.
PICKTHAL: The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.
SHAKIR: The hour drew nigh and the moon did rend asunder.

054.007
YUSUFALI: They will come forth,- their eyes humbled - from (their) graves, (torpid) like locusts scattered abroad,
PICKTHAL: With downcast eyes, they come forth from the graves as they were locusts spread abroad,
SHAKIR: Their eyes cast down, going forth from their graves as if they were scattered locusts,

I don't think those are correct either. But surely I am free to use my own interpretation?

 

[DC]

Here is proof that the whole thing is talking about END TIMES


Sura 54:1

The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].


Sura 54:7

Their eyes humbled, they will emerge from the graves as if they were locusts spreading,

A Moslem once tried to convince me of the Koran's scientific accuracy with the moving mountains also from one of the many Promised-day fairytales, when i asked about plate textonics. I asked him is lying for Allah will be forgiven on the promised day

 

[Bill Thompson]

From the proverbial's "horses mouth"
Many many muslim friends of mine say it was to show doubters that Mohammed was a prophet.

Dude, the quran was writtein by Mohammed. Sure he might say that "one day I will split the moon" but he is also hinting "like I did before"

Islam is not like Christianity where the only source of info is one book.

From:
http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k8_news/march/22moon_crack.htm

Crack on moon confirms Prophet Muhammad (S) had split it

By: Mohamed Ali
NEW YORK, United States: Recent scientific research has confirmed the miracle of Prophet Muhammad Al-Mostafa (peace be upon him and his holy progeny) regarding “moon splitting”.

It has been proved through a picture captured by NASA which was published throughout the world.

The photo from NASA using Apollo 10 and Apollo 11 shows a clear indication (a line) that the Moon was split in past.

The report, spread on scientific foundations in different global parts, said that the picture which illustrates splitting of moon confirms that the moon was split into two halves during its geological age. The report said the scientists were unable to give any scientific explanation for happening of ‘moon splitting’ as any such splitting was never happened to any heavenly body prior to what happened to the moon. The geologists assert that it is impossible that such a line appears save the moon was split into two halves and then it was rejoined.

This miracle of the Prophet (peace be upon him and his holy progeny) is mentioned in the beginning of Sura Al-Qamar (the moon) about the split of the moon [54:1] ‘The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder (the people of Makkah requested Prophet Muhammad to show them a miracle, so he showed them the splitting of the moon)’.

Muslims say he did it.

Your interpretation is just as valid to me is your interpretation that I am a biblical fundamentalist.

 

[Leumas]

A Moslem once tried to convince me of the Koran's scientific accuracy with the moving mountains also from one of the many Promised-day fairytales, when i asked about plate textonics. I asked him is lying for Allah will be forgiven on the promised day

The quran actually says that God ANCHORED the mountains so that they won't go walk about.

Another place it says that HE used the mountains TO BALANCE the earth so that it won't TIP OVER.

There are numerous places where the sun and moon and mountains PRAY to god along with the Jinn and Angels.

Their claims to scientific anything is malarkey.

 

[DC]

From the proverbial's "horses mouth"
Many many muslim friends of mine say it was to show doubters that Mohammed was a prophet.

Dude, the quran was writtein by Mohammed. Sure he might say that "one day I will split the moon" but he is also hinting "like I did before"

Islam is not like Christianity where the only source of info is one book.

From:
http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k8_news/march/22moon_crack.htm



Muslims say he did it.

Your interpretation is just as valid to me is your interpretation that I am a biblical fundamentalist.

evidence?

 

[dlorde]

Isn't it, for lack of a better term, "not intelligent" to call a question unfair or rude once the invitation to ask anything has been made?

To be fair, he did say "hateful commentary will be disregarded". Perhaps he feels your questions are a cover for hateful commentary; can't say I blame him.

 

[DC]

Prophet Muhammad (S) on Crack confirms he had split the moon

ftfy

 

[Leumas]

From the proverbial's "horses mouth"
Many many muslim friends of mine say it was to show doubters that Mohammed was a prophet.

Dude, the quran was writtein by Mohammed. Sure he might say that "one day I will split the moon" but he is also hinting "like I did before"

Islam is not like Christianity where the only source of info is one book.From:
http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k8_news/march/22moon_crack.htm

First of all that is not true..... every moslim will tell you that every moslim is supposed to read the book and judge for himself.

Islam does not have a CENTRAL INFALLIBLE Pope.

But also the statement is not true due to the assertion that in Christianity the source of information is one book. Where did you ever get that notion.

Where in the Bible does it mention the TRINITY as one in three and three in one?

Where does it in the bible mention the 9 layers of hell or the hierarchy of the Angels realm or the names of most of the “known” Angels?

Where in the Bible does it say that you should pray to Saints to intercede with god for you?

Where in the Bible does it say that if you kiss the feet of a statue of Jesus or Mary or the saints you would be blessed?

Where is holy water mentioned?

What about Origin, Tertullian, Augustine, Aquinas, etc. etc.

Even the entire NT could be considered as a HADITH if you want to be honest about it....what are Epistles if not a Hadith? Even the Gospels are what supposedly the disciples (not Jesus) said Jesus said and did....so that is not a Hadith?

The only part of the Bible that is STRICTLY considered to be the word of God is the Torah....which by the way...according to the Mishnah....existed before the creation of earth....and used to have conversations with God.

 

[Leumas]

Muslims say he did it.

Your interpretation is just as valid to me is your interpretation that I am a biblical fundamentalist.

Even if they believe it .... is it any different from STOPPING the sun and the moon for a whole day so that Joshua can kill more people?

Is it any different from REVERSING the path of the sun by 10 degrees to prove to Hezekiah that his BOIL will be cured?


So what is the point....they believe the moon was rent apart by YHWH..... that is nothing compared to what he did in the Bible.

Also as DC pointed out..... look at the moon....they might be right after all

No one says that Joshua held the path of the sun and moon....it was YHWH.... no one says that Isaiah reversed the path of the sun....it was YHWH.... I think this is also the case in the Sura cited.

 

[DC]

Islam is not like Christianity where the only source of info is one book.

the old testament and new testament? and they are not one book, they are both a collection of books.

 

[steve s]

I wouldn't exactly say that western scientists had a Qur'an in their back pocket, but while we're on the topic of space (I love space!) I can give you verses that accurately predicted several recent discoveries.

The Big Bang Theory is described in 21:30:

Quote:
Do not these disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were an integrated mass, which We then split, and from water We made all living things? Will they not believe even then?

That's got nothing to do with the big bang. That's just a rehash of Genesis 1...

And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

Steve S