Arrest warrant issued for Tom DeLay

[President Bush]

This might be as good as the "Jimmy Swaggart Caught With a Whore" show.

Television is very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read.

 

[Luke T.]

Some lawyer acquaintances in Texas, who I suppose are more familiar with the law and charges say that Delay is definitely guilty and has been in trouble for ethics violations before and been reprimanded, this isn't the first time.

These must be lawyers who aren't familiar with that part of the law which says "innocent until proven definitely guilty".

 

[Luke T.]

Seriously, folks. Watch Bush's Brain and observe the heartrending story of the railroading of two Texas politico's who were convicted of campaign finance shenanigans and what a travesty of justice it was, because "everybody does it about 100 times a day".

Waaaaahhhh!

I don't suppose any of those people will be coming to DeLay's defense, though.

 

[Mark]

These must be lawyers who aren't familiar with that part of the law which says "innocent until proven definitely guilty".

Like Clinton?

 

[KingMerv00]

You gotta love it!!!

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

The arrest of any corrupt politician is a cause for celabration yet many here are ready to ring in the New Year not because justice has been done but because "the enemy" has been taken down a peg. Bias is clouding your emotion.

Also, he is innocent until proven guilty.

 

[KingMerv00]

Like Clinton?

If Clinton was been considered guilty before impeachment, then that is wrong. If the majority leader is considered guilty before trial, that is also wrong.

Besides, I think it's fairly obvious that Clinton DID commit perjury. He was guilty to my satisfaction.

 

[Mark]

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

The arrest of any corrupt politician is a cause for celabration yet many here are ready to ring in the New Year not because justice has been done but because "the enemy" has been taken down a peg. Bias is clouding your emotion.

Also, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Well, remember, this is in a state where they recently arrested Democrats for trying to oppose the Republican redistricting. Just desserts, maybe?

 

[KingMerv00]

Well, remember, this is in a state where they recently arrested Democrats for trying to oppose the Republican redistricting. Just desserts, maybe?

I am not familiar with the story to which you are referring.

The concept of just desserts is only valid if the charges are, in fact, just. The "us" vs. "them" mentality is very scary to me.

Having stupid political views is not a crime.

 

[pgwenthold]

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

The arrest of any corrupt politician is a cause for celabration yet many here are ready to ring in the New Year not because justice has been done but because "the enemy" has been taken down a peg. Bias is clouding your emotion.

Also, he is innocent until proven guilty.

In court.

Outside of court, this standard does not apply. I am free to think whatever I want about his guilt or innocence.

 

[Cleon]

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

The arrest of any corrupt politician is a cause for celabration yet many here are ready to ring in the New Year not because justice has been done but because "the enemy" has been taken down a peg. Bias is clouding your emotion.

Also, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Well, that's one possibility.

Another possibility is that, after several years of Delay and the Republicans trying to change the rules and muddy the waters to try and keep Delay from being answerable for his (alleged) crimes, it's nice to see that he will finally have to face the music.

 

[KingMerv00]

In court.

Outside of court, this standard does not apply. I am free to think whatever I want about his guilt or innocence.

That is absolutely right. You are entitled to any biased, uninformed opinion you like. However, we are on a skeptic board and I would expect a higher standard.

I will wait until I actually get a look at the evidence. For the record, I do not consider his political affiliation as a smoking gun.

 

[Mephisto]

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

The arrest of any corrupt politician is a cause for celabration yet many here are ready to ring in the New Year not because justice has been done but because "the enemy" has been taken down a peg. Bias is clouding your emotion.

Also, he is innocent until proven guilty.

I think we're all just celebrating something none of us were too sure of; the idea that anyone in the Bush administration is above the law. And WHY shouldn't we celebrate? A dangerous criminal has been exposed and will hopefully be taken off the streets.

So many scumbags, so little time . . .

 

[Manny]

I am not a conservative by a long shot but I find it alittle sad that people are celebrating the arrest of a man simply because he is the member or a certain political party (at least that's the impression I'm getting).

I am a conservative (at least economically), but I take your point.

On the other hand, if we didn't see politics as the theater it is from time to time we'd all go nuts.

 

[Upchurch]

I have to agree with Merv.

I've heard some pretty slimey things about DeLay, but all that is anecdotal evidence. The legal system is far from perfect in determining truth value, but at least it is a truth determining system. It will probably be the best source of info about DeLay that we will get.

I will be interested in hearing what it discovers.

 

[Mark]

I am not familiar with the story to which you are referring.

The concept of just desserts is only valid if the charges are, in fact, just. The "us" vs. "them" mentality is very scary to me.

Having stupid political views is not a crime.

No, but this is:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/1921866

U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay admitted Thursday he provided Texas Speaker Tom Craddick with the same information that state police used to enlist a homeland security agency in the search for runaway Democratic legislators.

DeLay said his staff used public information at the Federal Aviation Administration to track former Texas Speaker Pete Laney's airplane.

Laney was among 55 Democrats who broke a House quorum on May 12 to kill a congressional redistricting bill sought by DeLay, R-Sugar Land. Craddick and DeLay wanted the errant legislators arrested and returned to the House to force a vote on the bill.

 

[KingMerv00]

No, but this is:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/1921866

Let's assume he did exactly as expressed above. Arrest him for THIS crime instead of celebrating prematurely for something he may not have done. Just because you get away with one crime does not mean we can acuse of another in order to serve justice.

Heck, if I could do that I would gladly charge OJ with grand theft auto.

 

[Luke T.]

Interesting article about Texas redistricting.

 

[Cleon]

Let's assume he did exactly as expressed above. Arrest him for THIS crime instead of celebrating prematurely for something he may not have done. Just because you get away with one crime does not mean we can acuse of another in order to serve justice.

I'm celebrating the fact that someone who has been using his position of power to evade the justice system is finally going to see a courtroom. Whether he's guilty or not of the actual crime involved is of secondary importance to me; to me, the real crime is that he had the GOP--and thus Congress--cover his @$$ for so long.

 

[Mark]

Let's assume he did exactly as expressed above. Arrest him for THIS crime instead of celebrating prematurely for something he may not have done. Just because you get away with one crime does not mean we can acuse of another in order to serve justice.

Heck, if I could do that I would gladly charge OJ with grand theft auto.

He did, and I haven't yet seen any celebrations in either case.

 

[Mark]

Interesting article about Texas redistricting.

Your source is a newspaper owned by the Moonies.

I'm just saying.