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Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

Foster Zygote said:
Indeed. They could use actual photos of the real stars taken from Earth on clear nights, using the same Hassie cameras and the same type of film,and taken at the proper orientation to match the orientation of the cameras at the "landing site". Compositing those images into the black areas of the Apollo images would be a breeze. You'd even get the same grain appearance from the emulsion. Far from being too difficult, it would have been one of the easiest special effects to achieve for professional photographers.

The irony is, however, that those star fields would have to be photographed with the camera on a tripod, the aperture wide open, and exposure times of at least 15 to 20 seconds. Shoot them at f-5.6 and 1/250, and you'll get what amounts to unexposed film.
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And the further irony is that the lack of stars is actually evidence FOR the reality of Apollo in the sense that had the lunar surface photos shown a sky full of stars, any professional photographer of good amateur would take one look and cry "faaake!!!
 
Matthew Ellard said:
Thanks for that link. I'm always impressed what people could do with normal brushes, to retouch photos, before the invention of the airbrush.
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That was my first job in a photographer's studio. We had tiny little brushes and tiny bottles of dye that we used to smooth out wrinkles, etc. using a light table and a jeweler's loupe. Painting on the camera originals... no pressure!
 
smartcooky said:
And the further irony is that the lack of stars is actually evidence FOR the reality of Apollo in the sense that had the lunar surface photos shown a sky full of stars, any professional photographer of good amateur would take one look and cry "faaake!!!
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But in Conspiracyworld, professionals don't have any more knowledge, or think differently, than the conspiracists. Common sense is all you ever need, and professionals are just paid to use that common sense.
 
Question: In the CT mind if the US went thru the monstrous difficulties of faking the moon missions why didn't they also fake a Mars mission?
 
JayUtah said:
That was my first job in a photographer's studio. We had tiny little brushes and tiny bottles of dye that we used to smooth out wrinkles, etc. using a light table and a jeweler's loupe. Painting on the camera originals... no pressure!
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Same here, I did a lot of retouching of prints 'in the old days' Scalpel to scrape off dark spots and dye to stipple in light spots.
Never retouched a negative though.
 
Hans said:
Question: In the CT mind if the US went thru the monstrous difficulties of faking the moon missions why didn't they also fake a Mars mission?
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They did, but the Astronauts went on the run and had to be chased down, there was a documentary about it.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Same here, I did a lot of retouching of prints 'in the old days' Scalpel to scrape off dark spots and dye to stipple in light spots. Never retouched a negative though.
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Off topic. I tried to paint glass mattes for my teenage, 1970's super-8 "movie epics". Although a different skill, the same sort of psychology seems to apply. If the "new bits" looks right for a microsecond, you brain accepts it and you concentrate on the action. I was quite surprised how rough and ready big budget 60's matte paintings were sometimes.
 
Indeed, the matte painting at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark holds up for a whopping 30 seconds. That was about ten times longer than matte paintings were traditionally expected to remain convincing.
 
One other question while we are talking about matte's and the lack of reality in them.

Didn't the self appointed semi-divine Anders Lindman decide that the NASA hoax was built on mind control and aliens? Well to be honest he thought everything was built on those two pillars of reality....
 
Hans said:
Question: In the CT mind if the US went thru the monstrous difficulties of faking the moon missions why didn't they also fake a Mars mission?
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No, they secretly went to Mars for real in 1962. There was even a British doco about the cover up.....

Landing footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsVqa2xaBeQ

Full documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmNFzBVKqyE

...and this was confirmed some years later by Mitchell & Webb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw


Yes, of course this is a Poe... what the hell do you take me for !?
 
I'll gladly have you pay me next Tuesday for believing in your conspiracy theory today.

Actually I've seen all three of those videos before but thanks!
 
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