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Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

Nixon's character is certainly questionable if indeed he 'winged it' to beat the Soviets, because no matter how much the guys were paid off and made to keep shtum under various state secrets acts, or how worthy his aim at the time, or however patriotic, the buck stops with him ultimately. Certainly the Apollo Program itself was hardly faked.

I am sure Trump will be making Artemis III moon expedition all about himself, too, so I hope he'll be out of office by then. Suddenly, Trump is a big fan of science.

If Nixon "winged it" to ensure we beat the Soviets, then why, 2 days after the launch, would he instruct William Safire to write a speech lamenting the possible failure of the mission, then keep it hidden away, only being found five years after his death?
 
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If Nixon "winged it" to ensure we beat the Soviets, then why, 2 days after the launch, would he instruct William Safire to write a speech lamenting the possible failure of the mission, then keep it hidden away, only being found five years after his death?
Clearly, it is all part of the conspiracy, because if it supports that the Moon landings happened, it is an obvious fake …
 
Just to make this all about me for a moment (I will not name my inspiration, because I am making it about me, not them), I thought that enaging with this thread would distract me from cigarettey thoughts.

I was wrong about that, but I am am still glad that that I have been keeping up with the thread, because there have been some fantastically spectacular* self-owning howlers posted recently, and it has been glorious to watch them unfold in real time.

*maybe that should have been 'spectacularly fantastical'. Also, maybe the maybe was unnecessary. The first maybe, just to clarify: not this one, nor the two preceding it.

ETA: On refection, it is my opinion that 'spectacularly fantastical' is definitely the better description. You may disagree, and that is absolutely your right. Everyone has the right to be wrong.
 
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Nixon, of course, had only been President for six months at the time of Apollo 11. He had no time to have any influence on the program at all. Lyndon Johnson was President when Apollo 8 orbited the moon and spoke to the world on live TV on Christmas Eve.
Cue Vixen telling what a bastard LBJ was.

If a Swedish Prime Minister with mere days left in office can crucially detemine the long-term course of the Estonia investigation, just think of what a US President can do within six months of his inauguration.
 
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Nixon's character is certainly questionable if indeed he 'winged it' to beat the Soviets...
"If." Do tell us all about Nixon's vital input to the Apollo programme.

But please, before you just make something up, or misremember something (like your false assumption the other Apollo landings were not televised live) actually look it up. Read the evidence. Tell us what you learn about what Nixon did for Apollo, if anything, and then you can answer your own point about "if indeed he 'winged it'." Did Nixon wing it, or did he not? Find out. Then come and tell us. Don't just make some ◊◊◊◊ up and tell us you reckon that's true.
 
As explained re the discussions about Telstar and Syncom, NASA knew that satellite communication whilst theoretically possible, wasn't a practical means to broadcast live pictures from the Moon. For example, it had no sure way of knowing the exact landng location, because, as you recall, Armstrong had to steer the module away from a crater boulder field (so there's a small problem with positioning for a start) it also did not know exactly what time they guys would exit the module, as they needed to decompress and adjust their space suits. I think in the end it took them four to six hours to come out. As you know, Telstar only had an eight-hour time slot befor disappearing off the horizon in its elliptical orbit. So, the guys were given a Westinghouse SSTV, the signals of which were to be received at ten frames per second by two receivers in Australia and one in California, chosen as being in favourable aspect to the Moon. This was decoded and then another TV camera pointed at a TV monitor at Houston transmitted the images live all over the world. Simples.

Except 'deniers' had issues about this.
So why didn't physicists and engineers have issues with this? Again, are they just that much dumber than you?

And you didn't answer the question. Why was a satellite needed to relay a signal between the earth and the moon?

Paris and New York can't see each other, so you can't send signals between the two that have line-of-sight propagation. But if you put a satellite where both locations can simultaneously see it, then it can relay signals between the two cities.

The earth and moon can both see each other. An antenna on the near side of the moon and an antenna on earth can send signals back and forth with no problem. If you have antennae in multiple locations, such as Goldstone, California; Canberra, Australia and Madrid, Spain, that are connected to the same communications network, then you can maintain continuous communication between the earth and moon even as the earth rotates throughout the day.

Simples.

So simples, in fact, as to make it difficult to believe that anyone capable of operating a toothbrush could genuinely be too obtuse to grasp it, let alone someone who had scored in the 99.9th percentile on a standardized intelligence test. So we're left to wonder why someone would pretend to be unable to apprehend so simply a concept. Is it out of a pathological inability to admit error that leads to fabricating layer upon layer of willful ignorance to create a delusional reality in which to pretend you're proving your genius? Is it a simple need for attention, frustrated by an inability to generate interest without acting as though you're outrageously ignorant and arrogantly, delusionally over confident? Sadly, that question is the reason your threads draw any attention, not because your arguments are in any way compelling.
 
Given the content-free nature of "some poster's" contribution(s)-or-whatever-it's-called to this thread I have to wave and go boojum hunting. Wake me if anyone can make sense of what's-it's-name's ... content ... here.
The legends tell of a great warrior* that slumbers through the eons, but that will arise to do battle once more on the day that the final mystery is solved...



*or beast, there is some disagreement about the correct interpretation of the texts. There is always some disagreement about the correct interpretation of the texts.
 

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