Anyone heard about this dude? (pavelprorok on youtube)

[RemieV]

I'm getting really sick of having my progress charted on the Forum as though I'm doing something wrong.

I have said this before, but I suppose I'll go ahead and do it again.

What I actually said in e-mail to Pavel was as follows:

Pavel,

Please keep in mind that there are quite a few applicants at the moment, so it will take some time to receive a response. Additionally, every time we discuss a new way of doing the test, I have to run it by the statistician and see whether or not it is feasible.

I apologize for the delay, but please be patient. Your claim is being investigated.

***

Honestly, it is absolutely standard for protocol negotiations to take time. But if it makes everyone feel better about whether or not I'm on top of this, I will write to Jeff and ask him to review my progress. I will then ask him to post his review of my work on this thread. I have no idea why I should be getting public progress reports, but if it's reassuring somehow, I'm on it.

~Remie

 

[Jeff Wagg]

I will confirm that I'm aware of Remie's progress on all the open challenges, and that I think she's doing a great job. Individual applicants may not be aware of how much time goes into this, but it's significant. Patience is crucial.

I'd also like to remind folks that the forum is a good place for discussing ideas and such for the challenge, but the real work happens between Remie and the claimant, usually via e-mail. There may be significant amounts of time where Remie doesn't have a chance to look in here, so no one should assume that anything here has been seen by her.

 

[pavel_do]

I'm getting really sick of having my progress charted on the Forum as though I'm doing something wrong.

I have said this before, but I suppose I'll go ahead and do it again.

What I actually said in e-mail to Pavel was as follows:

Pavel,

Please keep in mind that there are quite a few applicants at the moment, so it will take some time to receive a response. Additionally, every time we discuss a new way of doing the test, I have to run it by the statistician and see whether or not it is feasible.

I apologize for the delay, but please be patient. Your claim is being investigated.

***

Honestly, it is absolutely standard for protocol negotiations to take time. But if it makes everyone feel better about whether or not I'm on top of this, I will write to Jeff and ask him to review my progress. I will then ask him to post his review of my work on this thread. I have no idea why I should be getting public progress reports, but if it's reassuring somehow, I'm on it.

~Remie

Thank you. for the post. I was thinking to post your reply on the thread.. but did not do that as I though I would have to ask your permission first.. so I just posted my brief reply. With all my respect to your work, I understand there is allot to do and I am not the only one who is claimant.. just that the last time I been waiting over 3 weeks for any reply.. so this time just wanted to make sure that my emails at least read.. that is difficult to understand when there is no reply’s whatsoever.. as I said before I think not even for me but even for the other claimants.. if you would just make even automatic message.. like.. ”Thank you for your reply.. we received it and will get back to you as soon as we ready.. “ so person at least would know that his email received. as when weeks go by and nothing coming in.. every person I guess gets a bit “nervous” Have a nice the rest of the week, Sorry for bugging you.. will wait for reply…

p.s. Sorry to repeat my self.. but.. u said every time I sent new proposal.. you have to see the statistician… if you would sent at least any feed back from them or what they think is suitable test.. that would be helpful as well. .like if one is not good at all in a y ways I would try to designed a new one.. based on suggestions and questions and comment of JREF.. like you wrote. Too many photos.. so I offered to get back to 1 out of 3.. or to the test with pairs.. that reduce the number of photos and still I would be comfortable with this test. that was just the comment.

 

[Jackalgirl]

Edited: Urp, wrong thread. I'll go put this where it belongs (in the new protocol thread).

 

[GzuzKryzt]

I'm getting really sick of having my progress charted on the Forum as though I'm doing something wrong.

I have said this before, but I suppose I'll go ahead and do it again.

What I actually said in e-mail to Pavel was as follows:

Pavel,

Please keep in mind that there are quite a few applicants at the moment, so it will take some time to receive a response. Additionally, every time we discuss a new way of doing the test, I have to run it by the statistician and see whether or not it is feasible.

I apologize for the delay, but please be patient. Your claim is being investigated.

***

Honestly, it is absolutely standard for protocol negotiations to take time. But if it makes everyone feel better about whether or not I'm on top of this, I will write to Jeff and ask him to review my progress. I will then ask him to post his review of my work on this thread. I have no idea why I should be getting public progress reports, but if it's reassuring somehow, I'm on it.

~Remie

I will confirm that I'm aware of Remie's progress on all the open challenges, and that I think she's doing a great job. Individual applicants may not be aware of how much time goes into this, but it's significant. Patience is crucial.

I'd also like to remind folks that the forum is a good place for discussing ideas and such for the challenge, but the real work happens between Remie and the claimant, usually via e-mail. There may be significant amounts of time where Remie doesn't have a chance to look in here, so no one should assume that anything here has been seen by her.

The JREF's decision not to update the Challenge Application subforum - e.g. by posting the e-mail communication with an applicant like Pavel Ziborov - on a regular basis leaves the forum members with intent of fruitful discussion in a bit of a limbo.

I firmly believe those forum members understand the reasons for said decision fairly well.

However, without knowing what the JREF did - namely: respond to an inquiry from an applicant - or knowing the JREF's position, it seems difficult to provide useful suggestions to an applicant, does it not?

Hence, I tend to contact the JREF Staff - mostly Remie - and ask for an update. I also encourage people who had their application accepted to contact the JREF via [email protected]

If the JREF Staff has any specific proposals for the forum members on how to act besides remaining patient, please go ahead.

 

[Akhenaten]

Sorry if I've appeared at all critical of the JREF or RemieV, however . . .

This is the MDC sub-forum and one of its purposes is to allow we forum users to track the progress of Challenge applications.

So I would say that, for my own part at least, I'm not attempting to chart RemieV's progress, just the progress of some applications, and I don't really give a rat's how long it takes.

Personally, I have nothing but admiration for RemieV and all JREF staff, and I'm happy for things to unfold as time and their workload permits.


Cheers,

Dave



PS Hey Pavel! Join some other threads and meet some of the other forum members while we're waiting. Most of them are They're all much smarter than me and good fun to talk to.

 

[chillzero]

A new thread has been opened to discuss the protocol for Pavel. As this section requires that all threads remain strictly on topic to the MDC, it seems sensible to move the discussion there:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119896
I am closing this thread. A new thread can be opened in Community or Paranormal to chat with Pavel over this situaiton, if required.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero