Any Updates on Mark Basile's Study?

[Dave Rogers]

Ultimately, I can't help but trust Astaneh's expert opinion. "I saw melting of girders at World Trade Center".

Well, we know that there was eutectic melting of girders due to the mixture of chemicals released in the long-lasting fires, so I don't think anyone has much of an issue with that statement in its proper context.

Dave

 

[JSanderO]

Well, we know that there was eutectic melting of girders due to the mixture of chemicals released in the long-lasting fires, so I don't think anyone has much of an issue with that statement in its proper context.

Dave

Is this melting or corrosion? Or both? The thinned out steel webs look like aggressive corrosion not melting to me...

What do you think it is and what was the cause?

 

[Dave Rogers]

Is this melting or corrosion? Or both? The thinned out steel webs look like aggressive corrosion not melting to me...

That's mainly a question of terminology. Corrosion creates eutectics, eutectics melt.

To be honest, Astaneh-Asl's quote is a little perplexing. Adding previous sentences, he said,

"Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center."

I've often wondered whether the last sentence was mis-transcribed, and dropped the word "no" from before "melting", because as it stands the quote makes no sense. But of course, for a conspiracy theorist, it's forbidden to question any small excerpt from a quote that seems to support the conspiracy theory, even if it only does so when taken out of context.

Dave

 

[Oystein]

There are many hypothetical ways that particles like that could be found somewhere in the dust.

Exactly.
Which is precisely why finding such particles is not evidence of a thermite reaction at all.
I am glad you understand so easily what appears to be an unintelligible concept to Jones, Harrit and Basile.
Then again, Basile's test proposal does not mention looking for micro spheres, so apparently not even he considers them as of value in telling thermite apart from mundane materials such as paint or rust.

(Bolding intended to remind posters what this thread is about)

 

[MicahJava]

That's mainly a question of terminology. Corrosion creates eutectics, eutectics melt.

To be honest, Astaneh-Asl's quote is a little perplexing. Adding previous sentences, he said,

"Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center."

I've often wondered whether the last sentence was mis-transcribed, and dropped the word "no" from before "melting", because as it stands the quote makes no sense. But of course, for a conspiracy theorist, it's forbidden to question any small excerpt from a quote that seems to support the conspiracy theory, even if it only does so when taken out of context.

Dave

Dave, check out the PBS video of Astaneh saying it. He's differentiating between the melting he saw at the World Trade Center and the ordinary warping he's seeing at the collapsed overpass. It's almost as if Astaneh is an expert on steel who knows the difference.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Dave, check out the PBS video of Astaneh saying it. He's differentiating between the melting he saw at the World Trade Center and the ordinary warping he's seeing at the collapsed overpass. It's almost as if Astaneh is an expert on steel who knows the difference.

Ah, right, that makes more sense. As we know there was eutectic melting of girders in WTC7, that's probably what he was talking about.

Dave

 

[beachnut]

Dave, check out the PBS video of Astaneh saying it. He's differentiating between the melting he saw at the World Trade Center and the ordinary warping he's seeing at the collapsed overpass. It's almost as if Astaneh is an expert on steel who knows the difference.

But you failed to ask him, and the steel he found was not melted, it was corroded, learned after it was analysed. And it corroded after 9/11. Thus you failed to do research, and remain a follower, not a doer.

There was no melting of steel on 9/11, you can't produce evidence. Astaneh was talking about corrosion in fire at 1000C he found. What is your point.

Do you think steel melts at 1000C, that is the temperature after studying the sample was found to be the highest temperature, not the temperature required to melt steel.

Thus corrosion if fire at first looks like melting, but there was no pool of steel, of iron form the melting, it corroded in fire. Do you always call rust melting?

Make my day, ask Astaneh what he thinks now. But you will not take action, you will troll and post BS, you don't care about the truth, your actions are indicative of someone who does not care 19 terrorists murdered thousands. So you make up or repeat lies about 9/11. 15 years of failure based on lies.

 

[DGM]

Bump:

I figure while the only remaining spokesperson for this "study" is currently posting here (Ziggi), he might comment on the lack of progress and status of the money raised.

 

[skyeagle409]

Bump:

I figure while the only remaining spokesperson for this "study" is currently posting here (Ziggi), he might comment on the lack of progress and status of the money raised.

It's been a very long time and yet, he can't produce the evidence that 9/11 Truthers were looking for. I wonder why!

 

[Eagles84]

It is mid October, are we getting an update anytime soon? According to aneta.org and a poster by the name of ziggi, we should have already been informed of the progress.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

It is mid October, are we getting an update anytime soon? According to aneta.org and a poster by the name of ziggi, we should have already been informed of the progress.

I sent a blood hound out searching for him, but it died laughing at the truthers who donated to
His study.

 

[cjnewson88]

So still no results yet?

 

[DGM]

So still no results yet?

There's no reason to think there will ever be any results.

 

[LSSBB]

So still no results yet?

Are you looking for what the ROI is on where Mark Basile put the money?

 

[DGM]

Are you looking for what the ROI is on where Mark Basile put the money?

I'm not convinced Basile saw any money.

There has never been any actual accounting and none of the alleged contributors have come forward looking for results or repayment for contributions.

Is there really any evidence this study wasn't a hoax from the start?

 

[Redwood]

I'm not convinced Basile saw any money.

There has never been any actual accounting and none of the alleged contributors have come forward looking for results or repayment for contributions.

Is there really any evidence this study wasn't a hoax from the start?

If Basile hadn't received any money, I'm pretty sure he would have said something. This thing goes back to 2009, at least.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

If Basile hadn't received any money, I'm pretty sure he would have said something. This thing goes back to 2009, at least.

He was probably eaten by the Zombies in the dead truth movement.
Poor Mark, nothing to see here thermite was always impossible, and nonsensical.

 

[skyeagle409]

It's now November 2016, and still no evidence from Mark Basile.

 

[MileHighMadness]

I believe he spent the money on booze, cigarettes and lotto tickets...LOL

 

[BasqueArch]

I believe he spent the money on booze, cigarettes and lotto tickets...LOL

...and the rest he spent foolishly.