Any Updates on Mark Basile's Study?

There is no damage to WTC steel from thermite. 15 years and 9/11 truth continues to fool those who can't think for themselves.



This has to be BS, to see how many replies the fantasy claims get, some fraternity internet drinking game

Back. Wow, suggestions for how iron-rich spheres (and other particles) could be produced are through the roof, and with no citation at all referencing them being found in building rubble dust in such quantities and chemistry.

Why would you necessarily be expecting thermite damage on steel if thermite was somehow used in a demolition?
 
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... suggestions for how iron-rich spheres (and other particles) could be produced are through the roof, and with no citation at all referencing them being found in building rubble dust in such quantities and chemistry.

Why would you necessarily be expecting thermite damage on steel if thermite was somehow used in a demolition?
Thermite would leave iron fused to the steel, it is a fact 9/11 truth ignores due to overwhelming ignorance.
911 truth lies about thermite, a fantasy born in some insane dream by Jones.

Iron is in the WTC dust at 6 percent, wow, which is the same as it is in the earth on the east coast. It is not a lot of iron, it is at the same as we would find in our yards. Iron spheres occur in fires, thus 911 truth followers/believers have been fooled by liars.

911 truth fantasy believers never ran a magnet though the dust in their backyard? Why are they so gullible?

The USGS did a dust study, 9/11 truth ignores it, or cherry picks it to support the fantasy and lies.
 
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Back. Wow, suggestions for how iron-rich spheres (and other particles) could be produced are through the roof, and with no citation at all referencing them being found in building rubble dust in such quantities and chemistry.


Apparently, you've overlooked the references that I have provided, which would have given you a clue as to why you are incorrect.


Debunked: Iron Microspheres in 9/11 WTC Dust as Evidence for Thermite


The iron is heated red hot or hotter and subjected to hurricane force blast furnace like wind. The iron flakes are liberated as small particles and some iron is vaporized. Like drops of water, the iron flakes form molten spheres that solidify and the fume also condenses into spheres, the most efficient geometrical form. … The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the combustion of petroleum or coal based fuels is not a new or unique process. These spheres are the same as iron and alumino-silicate spheres in the well-studied fly ash formed from contaminants in coal as it is burned in furnaces. – Rich Lee"

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-iron-microspheres-in-9-11-wtc-dust-as-evidence-for-thermite.t2523/


Why would you necessarily be expecting thermite damage on steel if thermite was somehow used in a demolition?


Thermite would not have been effective in taking down the WTC buildngs, which explains why demolition companies do not use thermite during their demolition implosion operations. Do you know what RDX is used for?
 
There is no damage to WTC steel from thermite. 15 years and 9/11 truth continues to fool those who can't think for themselves.


You are correct. Truthers have claimed these photos were evidence that thermite was used to bring down the WTC buildings.


Photo 1

http://www.debunking911.com/cut3.jpg

Photo 2

http://www.debunking911.com/anglecut2.jpg


Now, for the rest of the story.


WTC Angle Cut Columns during cleanup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyBuANVkQ4


After almost 15 years, not one dust sample depicted evidence of thermite.
 
Rehashing the microsphere nonsense really is off-topic. I keep clicking this thread hoping to see some update on Mark Basile's study.
 
Why would you necessarily be expecting thermite damage on steel if thermite was somehow used in a demolition?

What an astonishing question.

Would you expect bullet wounds in the victim if a gun was used to kill a person?
 
I suggest you take the time to learn the difference between oxidation and reduction.

I know perfectly well what reduction and oxidation are, I also know the most hollow microspheres in the world trade center were glass, as the used magnetic separation on the fly ash.

I also Created micro and macro spheres in a 3 story chimney effect, some from oxidation some from reduction.
 
Is Mark Basile a recluse these days or what?

Good question. Pretty much what we are wondering about ourselves.

If only there was someone who posted on this forum who is or has been in contact with MB and could tell us. Perhaps he has entered a Buddist monastic order and has eschewed all outside concerns.
 
Oddly enough I expect ax cut indications on trees cut down with an ax, and chain saw oil on trees cut down with a chain saw.

You forgot beaver tooth marks on trees cut by an beaver, and larger round tracks, and round on trees shoved over by an elephant.
 
In short if one claims a violent action on something that causes that something great damage then there is going to be signs that this specific violent action was what caused the damage.

The grade 4 level specific discription:
Thermite melts steel, therefore if thermite caused the failure of a structural component then that structural component will display signs of having been melted.

If said signs of having been melted are not to be found then there is NO evidence that anything was melted.

easy-peasy unless you have a political world view that requires the existence of a vast extra-governmental organization bent on directing events in the world towards non-specified goals and that in order to accomplish said unspecified goals they regularily conduct operations designed to strike fear in the world populace by killing dozens, hundreds or, in this case, thousands of innocent persons. If that is where you begin looking at the world then damn the evidence, full loon ahead!
 
Originally Posted by Gamolon
”How does one determine a red/gray chip as deteriorated thermite if it didn't ignite?”

Criteria This has been explained before, but for those firmly entrenched in their beliefs, people like yourself, no explanation is good enough.

Scientists, having microscopically studied the red chips over a long period of time became so familiar with the appearance of “candidate chips” that it became easy to visually recognize them amongst other red chips. For those researchers with no such familiarity and starting from scratch, I described the procedure required to find “candidate chips”.
I really do not see any problem. If, say, ten “candidate” chips are selected and maybe 2 of them fail to ignite. That does not detract from the findings made from the 8 that did ignite.
Can you give Mark Basile a hand with this?
Thanks
 
I also notice you didn't acknowledge the existence of other particles in the dust which require unnaturally high temperatures, like previously molten Molybdenum droplets and vaporized lead.



This is a cement kiln. It makes portland cement.




This is fire proofing. It is a mixture of mineral wool and portland cement.



Before the collapse almost all of the steel was covered with fire proofing. After the collapse almost none of the steel was covered with fire proofing. Most of it pretty much turned to dust.

All of the things Jones mentions in his "High temp at WTC" paper is a byproduct of a cement kiln. The Molybdenum would come from the steel belted tires they fed into the kiln for fuel. They tossed in tires and the steel belting would just melt and become part of the clinker. The vaporised lead would come from the car batteries they disposed of in the kiln. The kiln temperatures are high enough to accomplish everything mentioned in the paper. If you want iron micro spheres this is the perfect machine for making them. The iron falls through the flame becomes molten and solidifies into a sphere.

Dusty, one of the truthers from the past, had a chunk of fireproofing from the Trade Centers. She hung it on a ribbon and held a magnet next to it. (she was trying to prove it was dustified steel). It defiantly had iron in it.


The iron spheres and all the other crap mentioned in the paper was imbedded in the fire proofing. When the fireproofing turned to dust it released the them.

After all the mineral wool from the fire proofing was mentioned in the report, was it not? Why shouldn't the other stuff imbedded in the fire proofing also be there.
 
This is a cement kiln. It makes portland cement.




This is fire proofing. It is a mixture of mineral wool and portland cement.

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Before the collapse almost all of the steel was covered with fire proofing. After the collapse almost none of the steel was covered with fire proofing. Most of it pretty much turned to dust.

All of the things Jones mentions in his "High temp at WTC" paper is a byproduct of a cement kiln. The Molybdenum would come from the steel belted tires they fed into the kiln for fuel. They tossed in tires and the steel belting would just melt and become part of the clinker. The vaporised lead would come from the car batteries they disposed of in the kiln. The kiln temperatures are high enough to accomplish everything mentioned in the paper. If you want iron micro spheres this is the perfect machine for making them. The iron falls through the flame becomes molten and solidifies into a sphere.

Dusty, one of the truthers from the past, had a chunk of fireproofing from the Trade Centers. She hung it on a ribbon and held a magnet next to it. (she was trying to prove it was dustified steel). It defiantly had iron in it.


The iron spheres and all the other crap mentioned in the paper was imbedded in the fire proofing. When the fireproofing turned to dust it released the them.

After all the mineral wool from the fire proofing was mentioned in the report, was it not? Why shouldn't the other stuff imbedded in the fire proofing also be there.

There are many hypothetical ways that particles like that could be found somewhere in the dust. I just thought it was worth mentioning. Ultimately, I can't help but trust Astaneh's expert opinion. "I saw melting of girders at World Trade Center".
 

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