Any Update on Silverstein's Lawsuit?

Thunder said:
that is a lie. there is going to be a new tower 1,2,3,4,5 and there is already tower 7.

Silverstein owns the new 2,3,4, and 5. He already built 7.

how much is it going to cost him to build 2,3,4, and 5? how much will his final losses be from the original WTC?

oh..and guess what: Silverstein still owes for the mortgages for the original WTC. cool huh?
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At a certain point I'll stop responding to your posts if you continue to avoid the articles I've linked to.

a) You can't own a bldg that hasn't, nor does it appear will ever be built. That would be 2,3, and 5, which Silverstein has scrapped plans for since he can't find enough tenants for WTC 7 and the PA can't fill 1WTC.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/200...om-tower-woolworth-building-larry-silverstein

b) Had you read the articles I posted, you'd know that the mortgage and the rebuilding for WTC 7 was paid for by the initial insurance payout.

c) LS received 4.55 billion to cover his "losses" at the WTC. As for rebuilding 4WTC, he has no interest in investing any of his own money, which includes the insurance proceeds.

This has all been documented in the links I've posted to in this thread. Please read them so you stop saying things that have no bearing on reality.
 
RedIbis said:
c) LS received 4.55 billion to cover his "losses" at the WTC. As for rebuilding 4WTC, he has no interest in investing any of his own money, which includes the insurance proceeds.

This has all been documented in the links I've posted to in this thread. Please read them so you stop saying things that have no bearing on reality.
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how much is it going to cost Silverstein to build WTC 2,3, 4, and 5?

they are being built, btw. I saw them being built on Monday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wtc_site#Construction

Construction




As of May 2010[update], progress on the construction of the redesigned site is as follows:[63][64][65][66][67]
Now, RedIbis.....once all of Silverstein's building costs are done, how will they compare to the $4.3 billion he got in insurance money?

you are very good at linking to articles. now post some clear facts & figures.

what are the projected costs of Towers 2,3,4, & 5? who is paying for them...as of today?
 
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Oystein said:
read you own source, the New York time: Agreement that Silverstein has to buold three towers from insurance he gets for WTC.

Do you dispute that?
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You do realize that's quite early in the timeline and those agreements have changed.

Tone down your rhetoric. Stop asking me for calculations that I've already provided, especially since you refuse to admit you were wrong for suggesting LS was on the hook for rebuilding 1WTC.

Now re-read what I've posted and learn something about how LS has run the city and people of New York around in circles, sitting on a pile of cash and a paid for new WTC 7.
 
Thunder said:
how much is it going to cost Silverstein to build WTC 2,3, 4, and 5?

they are being built, btw. I saw them being built on Monday.

once all of Silverstein's building costs are done, how will they compare to the $4.3 billion he got in insurance money?
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Holy crap, do you even bother clicking a link?
 
Thunder said:
how much is it going to cost Silverstein to build WTC 2,3, 4, and 5?

they are being built, btw. I saw them being built on Monday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wtc_site#Construction

Construction


As of May 2010[update], progress on the construction of the redesigned site is as follows:[63][64][65][66][67]


Now, RedIbis.....once all of Silverstein's building costs are done, how will they compare to the $4.3 billion he got in insurance money?
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Ahh, now I understand why you're having such trouble with links.
 
RedIbis said:
At a certain point I'll stop responding to your posts if you continue to avoid the articles I've linked to.

a) You can't own a bldg that hasn't, nor does it appear will ever be built. That would be 2,3, and 5, which Silverstein has scrapped plans for since he can't find enough tenants for WTC 7 and the PA can't fill 1WTC.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/200...om-tower-woolworth-building-larry-silverstein

b) Had you read the articles I posted, you'd know that the mortgage and the rebuilding for WTC 7 was paid for by the initial insurance payout.

c) LS received 4.55 billion to cover his "losses" at the WTC. As for rebuilding 4WTC, he has no interest in investing any of his own money, which includes the insurance proceeds.

This has all been documented in the links I've posted to in this thread. Please read them so you stop saying things that have no bearing on reality.
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Are you saying the insurance companies have already paid out ahead of any start of building the insured asset? I suppose they just assume Larry will do the "right thing". Can real people get this kind of insurance? In my world they pay as aspects of a project are completed.


:rolleyes:
 
RedIbis- you say that Silverstein made off like a bandit.

Now prove it. What will his final rebuilding costs be when the site is completely finished?

have you even attempted to calculate this figure?

no more links. give us hard data.
 
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RedIbis said:
At a certain point I'll stop responding to your posts if you continue to avoid the articles I've linked to.

a) You can't own a bldg that hasn't, nor does it appear will ever be built. That would be 2,3, and 5, which Silverstein has scrapped plans for since he can't find enough tenants for WTC 7 and the PA can't fill 1WTC.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/200...om-tower-woolworth-building-larry-silverstein

b) Had you read the articles I posted, you'd know that the mortgage and the rebuilding for WTC 7 was paid for by the initial insurance payout.

c) LS received 4.55 billion to cover his "losses" at the WTC. As for rebuilding 4WTC, he has no interest in investing any of his own money, which includes the insurance proceeds.

This has all been documented in the links I've posted to in this thread. Please read them so you stop saying things that have no bearing on reality.
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Jesus.... I mean, I can hardly believe this garbage.

Does anyone want to tell Red that Silverstein is already building Towers 2, 3 and 4?

From 2011, NOT May of 2009, Red:

* 4 World Trade Center has risen from bedrock, 80 feet below street level, to the 23rd floor, 355 feet above street level. It is now rising one floor per week. The lobby is built and the first glass panels are now on the exterior of the building.

* The foundations for 2 World Trade Center and 3 World Trade Center have been completed and work continues on underground retail, transportation access and mechanical systems. These buildings are expected to reach street level by the end of the year.

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RedIbis said:
a) You can't own a bldg that hasn't, nor does it appear will ever be built. That would be 2,3, and 5, which Silverstein has scrapped plans for since he can't find enough tenants for WTC 7 and the PA can't fill 1WTC.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/200...om-tower-woolworth-building-larry-silverstein
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well, then you are dead wrong. WTC 2,3,4, and 5 are being rebuilt.

two buildings are being built as we speak, the other two already had their groundbreakings.

oh..and guess what? I saw WTC 4 with my own eyes. Its being rebuilt. I got pics to prove it.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/image-gallery.html#id=construction-continues-one-wtc&num=2

look at the photos. u can see WTC 4 in the right.



oh look, Tower 5 is being built after all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_Tower_5#Future
 
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Fact: Towers 1,2,3,4,5 are being rebuilt.



RedIbis- what will Silverstein's final costs be?
 
RedIbis said:
I'm not saying it, the frikkin' articles are! 4.55 billion.
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You may have to forgive me but, I don't remember any links saying they actually have "cut checks". I know they say "awarded" or that sort of thing.

If my house burned down today (it's insured for "full replacement") the insurance company is not going to cut me a huge check on Monday and say "have a nice day". If I choose not to rebuild, they are not going to pay what it would cost to do so. If I collect (on the lesser amount) and not rebuild, I have not "made out like a bandit".

So how has Larry "made out like a bandit"? (no the articles do indicate he did).
 
Thunder said:
well, then you are dead wrong. WTC 2,3,4, and 5 are being rebuilt.

two buildings are being built as we speak, the other two already had their groundbreakings.

oh..and guess what? I saw WTC 4 with my own eyes. Its being rebuilt. I got pics to prove it.

http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/image-gallery.html#id=construction-continues-one-wtc&num=2

look at the photos. u can see WTC 4 in the right.



oh look, Tower 5 is being built after all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_Tower_5#Future
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Oh boy. Did you read in your link where it said that the PA had assumed responsibility for the rebuilding of 5?
 
DGM said:
You may have to forgive me but, I don't remember any links saying they actually have "cut checks". I know they say "awarded" or that sort of thing.
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Well, that's the realm of semantics. If you think the courts awarded LS a combined 4.55 billion and he hasn't received it yet and has not sued everyone within striking distance, then there's nothing that will convince you that he has indeed received this money.

Receiving these funds would explain how he paid off and rebuilt WTC 7 and put 1B toward 1WTC, which I documented earlier in the thread.
 
RedIbis said:
There's no such thing as "the new towers" so stop asserting he has any obligation to build them.
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RedIbis said:
Well, that's the realm of semantics. If you think the courts awarded LS a combined 4.55 billion and he hasn't received it yet and has not sued everyone within striking distance, then there's nothing that will convince you that he has indeed received this money.

Receiving these funds would explain how he paid off and rebuilt WTC 7 and put 1B toward 1WTC, which I documented earlier in the thread.
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Red acknowledges that a billion went to 1WTC, that 2wtc, 3wtc, 4wtc are being rebuilt by Silverstein, 7wtc is already built.

Remember folks, Red sez "there is no such thing as the new towers."

Man, what a car wreck this thread turned out to be for you Red.

Oh yeah, we are still waiting for evidence that he made out like a bandit.... tick, tock, Red.
 
RedIbis said:
Oh boy. Did you read in your link where it said that the PA had assumed responsibility for the rebuilding of 5?
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yeah? and who's paying for it?


what will Silverstein's final construction costs once WTC 2,3,4 & 5 are rebuilt?

how will this figure compare to his insurance money?


...how can anyone honestly claim that Silverberg made out like a bandit, when they don't even know what his final construction costs will be?

psychic powers? time travel?

or is it just that International Financiers/Banksters always make out like a bandit, regardless of the evidence?
 
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"Made out like a bandit" is one of those trademark RedIbis Catchphrases that, in his mind, are complete independent arguments, needing no additional evidence or supporting details. Much like "lying through his dentures"...which, now that I think about it, is ALSO used to describe Silverstein.

Sheesh, what the heck does Red have against this guy? I can only suspect it's a personal vendetta of some sort because Red doesn't invent fancy catchphrases to slander anybody else who was in power at the time of the 9/11 attacks.
 
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