Another Steel-Framed Building Collapses Due to Fire

[uk_dave]

Or it's like being expected to believe that there was a third plane which hit the towers because as was shown in the naudet documentary a port authority employee states that they have received a warning that a third plane was on it's way in.

By this logic we should be able to claim that the actual collapse of at least one tower was due to this third plane which someone, somewhere reported as being on it's way.

People make mistakes and comments get mis-heard, distorted and mis-reported in the chaos of the incident. But many hours after the attack, when things have started to settle down and rational thought processes are possible once again, the testimony of eyewitnesses regarding the condition of a damaged structure which they might be expected to have to enter is much more reliable than the altered perception of eyewitnesses caught up in the adrenaline rush of an attack in progress and perceiving bangs and crashes as 'explosions' or running with misheard or misunderstood rumours about secondary devices.

 

[Bell]

Maybe Russell can explain what 'a terrible loss of life' has to do with 'blowing up a building'? They blew it up and thus prevented further casualties... how exactly?

 

[aggle-rithm]

People make mistakes and comments get mis-heard, distorted and mis-reported in the chaos of the incident. But many hours after the attack, when things have started to settle down and rational thought processes are possible once again, the testimony of eyewitnesses regarding the condition of a damaged structure which they might be expected to have to enter is much more reliable than the altered perception of eyewitnesses caught up in the adrenaline rush of an attack in progress and perceiving bangs and crashes as 'explosions' or running with misheard or misunderstood rumours about secondary devices.

This is especially true when you consider the fact that a lot of people didn't know what had happened at first. All they knew was that there was a big bang, then a fire. Explosives had gone off in the WTC before, so a lot of people assumed that's what had happened again. With that in mind, they would have interpreted everything they experienced as being consistent with their belief that there were bombs going off.

This sort of thing isn't confined to 9/11, either. When Reagan was shot back in the early 80's, they announced on the news that press secretary James Brady was dead. In fact, he ended up outliving Reagan himself.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Maybe Russell can explain what 'a terrible loss of life' has to do with 'blowing up a building'? They blew it up and thus prevented further casualties... how exactly?

"There's a terrible loss of life anyway, what the hell, let's BLOW THIS SUCKER UP!"

 

[Horatius]

"There's a terrible loss of life anyway, what the hell, let's BLOW THIS SUCKER UP!"

Well, they are Americans, right? Isn't this how you guys react to most things?

 

[rwguinn]

Well, they are Americans, right? Isn't this how you guys react to most things?

Nope--
That's the Brittish approach.
I know, because I watched many episodes of the documentary "Monty Python's Flying Circus"

 

[maccy]

I don't think Russell's going to visit again, he hasn't logged on since the 11th and the last thread he started at Loose Change indicates that he doesn't like what he sees as disruptive and rude JREFers

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=686&hl=

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I don't think Russell's going to visit again, he hasn't logged on since the 11th and the last thread he started at Loose Change indicates that he doesn't like what he's sees and disruptive and runde JREFers

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=686&hl=

@Russell: Cry more nubsauce.

 

[uk_dave]

"The Loose Change Forums are a place for intelligent, respectful exchange of ideas, regardless of opinion. If you cannot comprehend that sentence, then this is not the place for you."

That made I laugh!

 

[hellaeon]

Uh... no great loss. The great guru of the movement cant convince people to disregard scientific facts and appeal to ignorance to prove 9/11 was committed by the government. Whats new. I think this forum needs a 'ignore retards' feature....

* letting of steam *

Cheers

 

[MG1962]

Hmmm - and the fire was in the Enigma Business Park.... Who the hell calls anything that?????

 

[LashL]

@Russell: Cry more nubsauce.

Indeed.

*sniff*
Poor Russell, when he found that he could not support his bald assertions with facts and evidence as is required here, and when he found that spouting "gut feelings" and "beliefs" just doesn't cut it here, he had to slink away with his tail between his legs. Poor thing.
*sniff*

 

[uk_dave]

9/11 TRUTH MEMBERS:

A new forum exclusively for 9/11 truth supporters has been created. It is called the "Ready Room". You can PM me for the password and then PM it to people you know to be solid members here.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...hp?showforum=27

The rules in that forum are posted there and are inflexible. ANY anti-9/11 truth posts there will be met with one direct warning and then suspension for a period of time from Loose Change forums in general.

Respect this space.

Russell

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=801


awwww that's nice...secret passwords...next it'll be secret handshakes....

...OMG are THEY the NWO plotting in secret??

 

[PerryLogan]

No, silly. The NWO plans everything out in the open--but only angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80's can see it.

By the way, I think the password for that site is DUMBF*CK.

 

[stateofgrace]

9/11 TRUTH MEMBERS:

A new forum exclusively for 9/11 truth supporters has been created. It is called the "Ready Room". You can PM me for the password and then PM it to people you know to be solid members here.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...p?showforum=27

The rules in that forum are posted there and are inflexible. ANY anti-9/11 truth posts there will be met with one direct warning and then suspension for a period of time from Loose Change forums in general.

Respect this space.

Russell

Translation.

Every one of our theories has been absolutely decimated everywhere else and most normal people now openly laugh at us. In response I have made a secret little room which I will over see and decide who enters it.

In this secret little room we can all chat openly about how well our campaign is going and how everybody is waking up. Everybody will agree with you no matter how crazy your ideas are because our secret little room will be full of people who have lots and lots of crazy ideas.

Nobody will ever see your crazy ideas and we can even pretend we are actually being rational and reasonable.

So come on, welcome to the all new secret room, only loonies allowed.

Russell.

 

[WildCat]

Hmmm - and the fire was in the Enigma Business Park.... Who the hell calls anything that?????

It's a mystery.

 

[chipmunk stew]

9/11 TRUTH MEMBERS:

A new forum exclusively for 9/11 truth supporters has been created. It is called the "Ready Room". You can PM me for the password and then PM it to people you know to be solid members here.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...p?showforum=27

The rules in that forum are posted there and are inflexible. ANY anti-9/11 truth posts there will be met with one direct warning and then suspension for a period of time from Loose Change forums in general.

Respect this space.

Russell

I have obtained the password via my deep cover sock. PM me for details.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Translation.

Every one of our theories has been absolutely decimated everywhere else and most normal people now openly laugh at us. In response I have made a secret little room which I will over see and decide who enters it.

In this secret little room we can all chat openly about how well our campaign is going and how everybody is waking up. Everybody will agree with you no matter how crazy your ideas are because our secret little room will be full of people who have lots and lots of crazy ideas.

Nobody will ever see your crazy ideas and we can even pretend we are actually being rational and reasonable.

So come on, welcome to the all new secret room, only loonies allowed.

Russell.

It's getting more and more difficult to maintain a fantasy these days...

 

[Belz...]

Wow.

They are either:

A) So convinced of their ideas that they see any dissenting view as part of the conspiracy. Ergo, not worth their time.

or

B) So aware that their theory is bunk that they need to isolate themselves from the outside world in order to maintain their fantasy-world.

 

[uk_dave]

ANY anti-9/11 truth posts there will be met with one direct warning and then suspension for a period of time from Loose Change forums in general.

Dalek Voice: "Dissent is not allowed. Exterminate....Exterminate! EXTERMINATE!"