On this forum, most people do not explain the tricks IF magicians use the same/similar tricks. I prefer knowing also, but that's not how it works here.
Uhh, Hypernicus, you're apparantly new here, but this applies to everywhere: You are going to be taken on face value. That's really a good thing, but occasionally, you may be misunderstood. In such cases, all you have to do is clear up the misunderstanding, like posting "Ahh, you may have interpreted my post to mean A, but I meant B". Quite simple, and nearly always clears up matters.
When we generally talk about force as in this context it always refers to the laws of nature. That means it is not something a man can just simply grab and use it by his own free will. The laws of nature with unhuman forces works totally seperated by a mans will. It is not like one can grab the forces of lighting and use it by free will, or grab the forces of the wind and use it by free will.
Perhabs you still have problems reasoning by use of logic since you still make allegations without making arguments from them. People who can't make arguments cannot think logical, and those who can't are no better to talk to than a plant. Plants can't make arguments either, but they will do a better job by not saying anything at all which is better than reading a bunch of lies and nonsense. Those who make allegations without making arguments from it have a almost 100% certainty to sooner or later turn to personal attacks. Only genuine psychopath do that.
Almost any forum or 'serious' chatting places on the Internet. The vast information out there one is seeking in about facts and reasoning on the Internet is just simply rubbish. I turned to this forum because James Randi is a man who can reason. No one as I read still hasn't by 25-30 years won any money, because the simple fact a man can't just simply grab the laws of nature and use it by free will. I have read a lot of great stories that are true, but none has been repeated. So I can't rule out that there is something, but that something hasn't turned up again with the same person. I don't mean someone should jump 60 meters and land on their back and survive once again, but simply use their free will to repeat something unexplainable that happened to them like reading some strangers mind and say it out loud as the strangers mind occured while others people overheard it and the strangers family or acquainted heard it too. That was just an example out of many 1000s that has happened.
And?
Why don't you tell more about it, or are you also 'facing' problems making arguments?
And those people are also good at doing a Straw Man?
You mean I have to think for them as well?
By simply asking "what tricks are those"? How would you come to that extraordinary conclusion? Please, by all means, now is the chance to make arguments so you can clear it up once and for all, for everyone in the world, that asks a question like: "What tricks are those?" are fighting words, and not appreciated (by you only?).
Everytime someone is faced with logic they feel the urge to do a research on the person. The matters that are discussed are nearly as important as the person who can think logical. There for the ones who are not using reasoning always wants to know more about the person to try to learn more about what reasoning really is all about. Ref: Mr. Scott in the same thread.
More allegations without making arguments, and of course the lack of logic. I have said it before; those who can't make arguments are very poor at reasoning and thinking logical. After that he says "there is nothing wrong with that", as if that falsely accusation has to do anything with anything in this thread.