Ann Coulter has no clue

[AlBell]

i'm not discussing american politics.
i'm discussing a hateful, bigoted american woman who spewed her hatred in canada a few months ago.
one venue was cancelled due to public outcry

The standard lefty-lib tactic; stick your fingers in your ears and yell la-la-la rather than allow free speech.

So sorry that Ann's take on the world and progressivism ruins your day, and yes it would be terrible if a Canuck actually heard and considered the implications of her polemic.

keep your morons on your side of the border, please.

Heed you own advice.

 

[BenBurch]

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So sorry that Ann's take on the world and progressivism ruins your day, and yes it would be terrible if a Canuck actually heard and considered the implications of her polemic.

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If they did, it would only confirm the bad opinion they already have of the average American. Might as well have David Duke delivering the message.

 

[Cicero]

If they did, it would only confirm the bad opinion they already have of the average American. Might as well have David Duke delivering the message.

As the majority of Canadians are huddled around the U.S. border and 50% of their imports come from the US, Canadians should be more concerned with the average American opinion of them.

 

[Lurker]

As the majority of Canadians are huddled around the U.S. border and 50% of their imports come from the US, Canadians should be more concerned with the average American opinion of them.

Hmm, I wonder what might happen if Canada decided to sell their oil/natural gas to China instead?

Perhaps we Americans should be very concerned with the average Canadian's opinion of us.

 

[Cicero]

Hmm, I wonder what might happen if Canada decided to sell their oil/natural gas to China instead?

Perhaps we Americans should be very concerned with the average Canadian's opinion of us.

If Canada could make a profit selling the same amount of oil to China instead of to the U.S. they would.

America: The Good Neighbor.

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the Franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

*Snip*

June 5, 1973 editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, Canadian television commentator http://yc2.net/canadian.htm

Please do not reproduce copyrighted material in its entirety.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[Lurker]

If Canada could make a profit selling the same amount of oil to China instead of to the U.S. they would.

My point is we need Canada as much as they need us, perhaps even more so as they supply us with a key resource that allows us to continue our current lifestyle.

<outdated and no longer true rant deleted>

 

[Cicero]

My point is we need Canada as much as they need us, perhaps even more so as they supply us with a key resource that allows us to continue our current lifestyle.

While we man need their oil, we don't need their whining.

What has transpired since 1973 that invalidates Gordon Sinclair's "America: The Good Neighbor" to Canada?

 

[Lurker]

While we man need their oil, we don't need their whining.

Damn Canucks should just be glad that we deign to buy their oil instead of just taking it. Who are they to have any voice in our affairs?

What has transpired since 1973 that invalidates Gordon Sinclair's "America: The Good Neighbor" to Canada?

Where to start?

We have received plenty of foreign aid for disasters here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/06/143771.htm (BP Deepwater Horizon)
http://www.sfmuseum.org/1906/china1.html (San Fran Earthquake)

Non-US Airplane Technology
http://www.airbus.com/

 

[AlBell]

While we man need their oil, we don't need their whining.

What has transpired since 1973 that invalidates Gordon Sinclair's "America: The Good Neighbor" to Canada?

Kids will be kids. Some of 'em may even grow up.

 

[Cicero]

Where to start?

Start with how Gordon Sinclair's comment, "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth." in your estimation is no longer valid.

 

[Ladewig]

Start with how Gordon Sinclair's comment, "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth." in your estimation is no longer valid.

The world has changed since 1973.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries

To qualify as official development assistance (ODA), a contribution must contain three elements: 1.) be undertaken by the official sector (that is, a government or government agency); 2.) with promotion of economic development and welfare as the main objective; and 3.) at concessional financial terms (that is, with favorable loan terms.) Thus, by definition, ODA does not include private donations

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development also lists countries by the amount of money they give as a percentage of their gross national income.

1. Sweden - 1.12%
2. Norway - 1.06%
3. Luxembourg - 1.01%
4. Denmark - 0.88%
5. Netherlands - 0.82%
6. Belgium - 0.55%
7. Finland - 0.54%
8. Ireland - 0.54%
9. United Kingdom - 0.52%
10. Switzerland - 0.47%
11. France- 0.46%
12. Spain - 0.46%
13. Germany - 0.35%
14. Canada - 0.30%
15. Austria - 0.30%
16. Australia - 0.29%
17. New Zealand - 0.29%
18. Portugal - 0.23%
19. United States - 0.20%

DISCLAIMER: I am not a hate-America-first cheerleader. I love America, I just want to be clear that not everything that was true in 1973 is true today. Japanese technology now includes some of the most advanced industrial robots in the world. Japanese high-speed trains are world renowned. Here in 2010, no one says, "when you say Japanese technology, I think of radios."

 

[Morrigan]

How did this thread turn into such an inane Canada-USA pissing contest?

Oh, it's Cicero and AlBell. My bad.

James Randi became a US Citizen but he didn't mention anything about easier access to health-care as being the reason. It had something to do with our "search and seizure" amendment.

And the incident that triggered it happened in the 70's. Things are different now.

Yes.

We expect that an 18 year old is subject to adult laws.

We accept that an 18 year old has the right to marry.
[etc]

I wonder why you (not you personally, but your government) think all that, but don't think he should be able to have a drink or buy cigarettes, though.

 

[Ladewig]

Start with how Gordon Sinclair's comment, "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth." in your estimation is no longer valid.

[second response]
Show me a Canadian journalist, politician, business tycoon, political activist, charity director, economist, political commentator, non-fiction author, or even entertainer who has gone on record in the past 5 years as saying that "Americans [are] the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth." That's what it will take to convince me that the estimation is still valid.

 

[Davidlpf]

One thing that has changed is that since July of 2009 you need a passport to enter the States from Canada. This pisses a lot of people on the border in Canada because they have families on both sides of the border plus there are economic reasons this hurts both sides. Another thing is when the planes landed after 9/11 where do you think most of the passengers ended up until US air space was clear again, but not one word of thanks from Bush.

 

[thaiboxerken]

This thread shows that Patriotism is a form of religion that can be taken to extremes.

 

[AlBell]

The world has changed since 1973.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_charitable_countries



DISCLAIMER: I am not a hate-America-first cheerleader. I love America, I just want to be clear that not everything that was true in 1973 is true today. Japanese technology now includes some of the most advanced industrial robots in the world. Japanese high-speed trains are world renowned. Here in 2010, no one says, "when you say Japanese technology, I think of radios."

You say, I am not a hate-America-first cheerleader. Oh?

I prefer these stats from your website; we could probably add private $$'s too to make it even more lopsided.

1. United States - $28.67 billion
2. France - $12.43 billion
3. Germany - $11.98 billion
4. United Kingdom - $11.50 billion
5. Japan - $9.48 billion
6. Spain - $6.57 billion
7. Netherlands - $6.43 billion
8. Sweden - $4.55 billion
9. Norway - $4.09 billion
10. Canada - $4.01 billion
11. Italy - $3.31 billion
12. Denmark - $2.81 billion
13. Australia - $2.76 billion
14. Belgium - $2.60 billion
15. Switzerland - $2.31 billion
16. Finland - $1.29 billion
17. Austria - $1.15 billion
18. Ireland - $1.00 billion
19. South Korea - $0.82 billion
20. Greece - $0.61 billion
21. Portugal - $0.51 billion
22. Luxembourg - $0.40 billion
23. New Zealand - $0.31 billion

 

[Lurker]

You say, I am not a hate-America-first cheerleader. Oh?

I prefer these stats from your website; we could probably add private $$'s too to make it even more lopsided.
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If I make $100/week and give $99 to charity and subsist on $1 and my friend makes $1000/week and gives $200 to charity is my friend more generous than me?

Surely you are not advocating making comparisons without accounting for size? I mean, that would upend pretty much the whole science of statistics.

Your logic is akin to me saying that because the US spends more on social programs than Finland that means that the US goverment is more socialist than Finland.

Or perhaps closer to home, Texas spends more on social programs than Massachusetts so we should therefore follow Massachusetts policies if we want to avoid turning America into a socialist country. Avoid Texas policies as it is a socialist utopia!

Is that really the logic you want to employ?

 

[AlBell]

If I make $100/week and give $99 to charity and subsist on $1 and my friend makes $1000/week and gives $200 to charity is my friend more generous than me?

If you do that every week all I can say is that both of you are fools.

Surely you are not advocating making comparisons without accounting for size? I mean, that would upend pretty much the whole science of statistics.

It would upend comparison techniques designed to make the US look bad.

Most percentage comparisons are used for the purpose making one part of the comparison look better or worse than it is by reasonable comparison measures.

 

[Morrigan]

If you do that every week all I can say is that both of you are fools.

Evasion noted.

 

[Lurker]

It would upend comparison techniques designed to make the US look bad.

Are you saying that the most common normalization technique used (per capita) to compare countries was invented in order to make the US look bad?

Is that really what you are advocating?

Most percentage comparisons are used for the purpose making one part of the comparison look better or worse than it is by reasonable comparison measures.

So you want to discard the whole concept of "per capita" ever being used again? Is that really what you are proposing?