Allopathic Medicine!!!

Pixel42 said:
https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/treatment/total-hip-replacement/



Hip replacement surgery has helped millions of people. It sucks if you're one of the few it didn't help, but to use that single experience as an excuse to condemn not only the procedure itself but the whole of modern medicine is utterly ridiculous.
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FEW??? Have you been down this road? I've talked to plenty who have done joint replacements and live with the aftermath damage. And some one mentioned repeat, so traumatize the body more. Not this gal, I live with what damage was done the first time and only HOPE there will be no more. Many do end up in wheelchairs as they have been infections, metal/plastic removed, and new parts put in and it's a vicious cycle of major surgeries.
 
Caroline13 said:
I don't buy stats as MOST are manipulated by and for the stat takers...I don't care about stats. I'm crippled from hip replacement and boy did I read the stats pre surgery.
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Do you realize this conspiracy you imagine requires the participation of...?

* virtually every relevant federal agency
* virtually every state/local health agency
* virtually every major hospital
* John Hopkins and other universities

Never mind a high fallutin word like "stat". Would you like me to dig up the covid death count as reported directly by a county agency of your choosing, and then we compare that number to the number that John Hopkins or another data aggregator reports?
 
Caroline13 said:
FEW??? Have you been down this road? I've talked to plenty who have done joint replacements and live with the aftermath damage. And some one mentioned repeat, so traumatize the body more. Not this gal, I live with what damage was done the first time and only HOPE there will be no more. Many do end up in wheelchairs as they have been infections, metal/plastic removed, and new parts put in and it's a vicious cycle of major surgeries.
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Again I will ask the question that has yet to be answered: What was your condition BEFORE your hip replacement? Why did you have it in the first place?
 
Norman Alexander said:
Again I will ask the question that has yet to be answered: What was your condition BEFORE your hip replacement? Why did you have it in the first place?
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I'm sure her hip was fine right up until the nasty allopathic docs got their hands on it. Then it was all downhill. She should have just stayed with her supplements.
 
That hugely popular book, "How to Lie With Statistics," has done a lot of harm. Simple folks latch onto the mere title and think that it's a refutation of any sort of quantification. They can get quite loud and angry -- at once scornful and frightened, I think -- if you start to use a statistical argument against them.

Proud ignorance, assertive ignorance, truculent ignorance, dangerous ignorance: that hideous strength!

Sorry, I meant to say, that piteous weakness. Aw hell, I wish it was.
 
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The Greater Fool said:
I've nearly died twice on the operating table in operations that are considered safe outpatient procedures.
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And that's completely expected.

Anti-science folk simply don't appreciate how utterly deadly the world was before science-based medicine was adopted. There's a reason why the child mortality rate before the 19th century was FIFTY percent.
 
Caroline13 said:
Oh I ended up in the ER in the 80's from a pharma drug, that was my turningpoint on the heavy duty drug world... And 2 surgeries and if I ever go fr a knife again, I need a major head examine.

30 yrs of sciatic nerve damage from hysterectomy when I was in my early 40's.

10yrs+ of body damage from hip replacement at 72.

That's it and want NO MORE. Thank goodness I'm retired and now need to count on friends/family to get where I have an appt.

And Yes, I do all I can to avoid major drugs and surgeries NOW.
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My surgeries have gone all just fine. Maybe you're just unlucky and are extrapolating from your experience to the rest of the world.
 
Caroline13 said:
I'm not a homeopathic doctor for starters. And it's all about "like cures like"...look it up.
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We've looked it up extensively through the years. Probably more than you. Homeopahy doesn't work beyond placebo. It's water and sugar pills, and nothing more. That's a mathematical fact. And if you think "water" has a memory of what molecules it's been in contact with and it doesn't kill you, I have a bridge to sell you.

I dare you.
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I dare you to read peer-reviewed articles on tests of homeopathy, rather than pro-homeopathy booklets and anecdotes. If it worked, doctors would LOVE to prescribe it.
 
Caroline13 said:
I've talked to plenty who have done joint replacements and live with the aftermath damage. And some one mentioned repeat, so traumatize the body more.
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And I have talked with many who have had hip replacements, and have praised it highly. Yours and my stories are what is known as anecdotes: worthless.
 
Pixel42 said:
There are some figures here:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hip-replacement/risks/

5% of patients experience a loosening of the joint, less than 1% get an infection, 7% need further surgery after 13 years ...

So yes, few. Far, far more people are better off as a result of hip replacement than are worse off.
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I don't buy your numbers, I don't buy numbers period..so much we don't know that goes on in the world anyway and to count on numbers???? omg...
 
steenkh said:
And I have talked with many who have had hip replacements, and have praised it highly. Yours and my stories are what is known as anecdotes: worthless.
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How many is many? I've been on replacement forums from all over the world, and talked and hear stories from MANY MANY MANY and I don't have a count...

How many have your talked to? What is your Many?
 
You avoid those numbers, eh? Do you ever balance your checkbook? Count the number of pineapple chunks to put on your pizza? Estimate how much longer you can drive before needing to fill up again? Look at the clock? Count you homeopathic pills?

Yeah, me neither. Numbers are so 60s, right?
 
Caroline13 said:
How many is many? I've been on replacement forums from all over the world, and talked and hear stories from MANY MANY MANY and I don't have a count...

How many have your talked to? What is your Many?
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You understand that the people who frequent such forums are overwhelmingly going to be from the small percentage who have problems, whilst the vast majority who are fine just get on with enjoying their better quality of life?

Of course you don't understand that. You think that anecdotes are a more reliable source of information than rigorously collected and audited numbers. Which is just about the wrongest of wrong things it is possible to believe.
 
I'm not sure whether to scold people for beating up a 10 yr old or laugh at being duped by a troll....but this at least had mild entertainment value (briefly).

Well I'm off to take my ginko balboa and deer antler supplements.
 
Caroline13 said:
I don't buy your numbers, I don't buy numbers period..so much we don't know that goes on in the world anyway and to count on numbers???? omg...
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Immediately followed by:

Caroline13 said:
How many is many? I've been on replacement forums from all over the world, and talked and hear stories from MANY MANY MANY and I don't have a count...

How many have your talked to? What is your Many?
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'How many' is a question generally answered with a number.
Why ask for something you have already said you won't accept as an answer?

EHocking said:
i think you’re overplaying the Poe angle on your trolling now.
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I think you may be on to something there.
 
bigred said:
I'm not sure whether to scold people for beating up a 10 yr old or laugh at being duped by a troll....but this at least had mild entertainment value (briefly).

Well I'm off to take my ginko balboa and deer antler supplements.
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Actually a self-proclaimed octogenarian. And there are web sites (Caroline13 gets all her "information" on line so that must be a reliable source) that tell us what happens to the brains of persons of advanced age, right?

But yeah, I think these posts are intended primarily for entertainment purposes.
 
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