• Security incident: ISF was recently accessed by intruders. Please change your password, and change it anywhere else you used it. Read more

Merged All things Trump + Russia

Status
Not open for further replies.
d4m10n said:
How many intelligence agencies would you find convincing?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Click to expand...

It would take infinite. Proving claims require the full presentation of your evidence. Simply stating your conclusion and purposely not presenting your evidence is no grounds to be believed.
 
BobTheCoward said:
It would take infinite. Proving claims require the full presentation of your evidence. Simply stating your conclusion and purposely not presenting your evidence is no grounds to be believed.
Click to expand...
Okay, then, we just need the chief executive to declassify everything about the hack that pushed his campaign over the finish line.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
Data, of Star Trek NG fame, only not green, gives devastating testimony as to vulnerabilities to hacking in the election system.
Click to expand...

Paper voting slip, pencil.

Hand counted by actual people.

Try hacking that.

Hell use technology to count paper ballots, and use computer counting to crosscheck results, but at least use paper somewhere in there.

 
Last edited:
.
Thanks to Trump, the Russians are having a blast. In other words, Trump has made the United States, and himself, a laughingstock. Is that Trump's idea of making America great again?!


Russians Are Laughing at the U.S., Not Just at Trump

This week, however, the Russian jokes at the expense of the U.S. got positively unpleasant. First, President Vladimir Putin offered to provide the U.S. Congress with a recording of Lavrov's conversation with Trump, in which the U.S. president allegedly revealed highly classified information (the word Putin used, zapis, cannot really be translated as "transcript", as the Kremlin later claimed). The suggestion, of course, was sheer mockery -- it's impossible to imagine the Congress making such a request of Putin, and U.S. legislators tried to answer Putin in kind, Senator Marco Rubio suggesting that if Putin sent the information by email, he "wouldn't click on the attachment."

Then, on Thursday, the Russian foreign ministry posted a short clip from Lavrov's meeting with Thorbjorn Jagland, secretary general of the Council of Europe. As the two sat for photographers, the Norwegian politician quipped, "These pictures won't cause any problems for you?" To this clear reference to the U.S. uproar following the Russian publication of pictures showing Trump and Lavrov acting friendly, the Russian foreign minister replies: "Depends on what kind of secrets you pass on to me." There's general laughter around the table: Clearly, this is the kind of Russian humor that travels well in Europe.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...ans-are-laughing-at-the-u-s-not-just-at-trump
Click to expand...
 
skyeagle409 said:
.
Thanks to Trump, the Russians are having a blast. In other words, Trump has made the United States, and himself, a laughingstock. Is that Trump's idea of making America great again?!
Click to expand...

I think it could be an upgrade. I don't want the US to have any leadership role on the world stage. I want the rest of the world thinking about the US as often as they think of Paraguay.
 
Why wouldn't you want the US to have a leadership role in the world? We're going to be missing out on a lot. Which matters to those of us who care.
 
NoahFence said:
Why wouldn't you want the US to have a leadership role in the world? We're going to be missing out on a lot. Which matters to those of us who care.
Click to expand...
Because some people don't understand the difference between being a leader and being all up in everybody's business, trying to control everything. What we have right now is a beast that wants the latter and is entirely incapable of the former.
 
NoahFence said:
Why wouldn't you want the US to have a leadership role in the world? We're going to be missing out on a lot. Which matters to those of us who care.
Click to expand...

I want you as a private citizen to care and do as much as you wish. I want those who don't to do as little as they wish. And individuals can't do that with a government taking collective action.
 
Firestone said:
Don't know about that ethical thing, but I sure hope she's never gonna get anywhere in politics. :)
Click to expand...

Agreed, aside from the fact that her economic policies makes Bernie Sanders look like a right wing Republican, her seemingly buddying up with Putin makes her persona non grata in my personal book.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I want you as a private citizen to care and do as much as you wish. I want those who don't to do as little as they wish. And individuals can't do that with a government taking collective action.
Click to expand...

I see we now have another resident Arnacho-Capitalist.
Well, they are always good for a few laughs.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I want you as a private citizen to care and do as much as you wish. I want those who don't to do as little as they wish. And individuals can't do that with a government taking collective action.
Click to expand...

Despite your pleas to the contrary, there IS a thing called "The Greater Good".

It is in the country's greater good to be a world leader.

No go and nitpick.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Share this page

ISF - Join now!

Every member here is approved by hand. No bots, no spam, just people who care about evidence and honest debate.

Membership is free!

Create your free account

Back
Top Bottom