Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

[Upchurch]

No, not sure. A Guardian writer says Bannon is quoted as such in a book "obtained by the Guardian ahead of publication from a bookseller in New England" by a writer known for his ********, and a first quote in that book is already denied before publication if you scroll to the last paragraph in the Guardian piece and read it.

You are sure. It isn't.

Oddly enough, Breitbart is reporting on the Guardian article and saying nothing about the article being false.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Trump rules!

Finally you're accepting it. The ruler of the free world.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Oddly enough, Breitbart is reporting on the Guardian article and saying nothing about the article being false.

Well, that and Trump's response are indications that the quotes are true. I was commenting on the so far presented evidence, which was no reason to be "sure".

 

[Upchurch]

Well, that and Trump's response are indications that the quotes are true. I was commenting on the so far presented evidence, which was no reason to be "sure".

"Highly likely", perhaps?

 

[LSSBB]

Well, well, well. Wormtongue finally stuck the knife into Saruman.

Of course, Sauron in this case is still sitting in HIS tower. And laughing his head off.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Wow, talk about throwing Bannon under the bus. And not just your average bus, we're talking bi-articulated, 14 wheels of mauling. I, mean, just wow.

"Just a staffer", "Very little to do with..victory"?!

Bannon is getting a harsh lesson on how little Trump values loyalty towards others.

I'm pretty sure this site allows for hotlinking. I think we'll need many more popcorn gifs by the time we're done.

 

[ferd burfle]

Bannon is getting a harsh lesson on how little Trump values loyalty towards others.

I doubt Bannon has ever been under any illusion in regard to this.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Oddly enough, Breitbart is reporting on the Guardian article and saying nothing about the article being false.

Sounds like they have no problem throwing Kushner under the bus. We shouldn't be surprised Bannon et al is going in that direction.

 

[Stacko]

Wow, talk about throwing Bannon under the bus. And not just your average bus, we're talking bi-articulated, 14 wheels of mauling. I, mean, just wow.

"Just a staffer", "Very little to do with..victory"?!

Bannon is getting a harsh lesson on how little Trump values loyalty towards others.

It's telling that Trump's first response isn't to dispute Wolff's reporting or the substance of Bannon's treason claim.

 

[Stacko]

More Bannon leaks.

Steve Bannon privately expressed ambivalence about Donald Trump as a presidential candidate before taking over his campaign, calling Trump a "narcissist" and stating that he didn't care if Trump won, according to emails obtained by BuzzFeed News.

...

At the time of the Iowa primary, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz slammed Trump to the state's evangelical voters by saying that he had never asked God for forgiveness.

"He NEVER asks for forgiveness!!!" Bannon wrote back. "It's a joke having him discuss god."

Still, Bannon approved the story, on the condition that then-Breitbart editor-at-large Ben Shapiro write a dueling column in support of Cruz.
In response to Bannon's criticism of Trump's lack of humility before God,

Breitbart's Washington political editor Matthew Boyle chimed in. "...He can't do anything wrong, at least in his mind," Boyle wrote. "Trump is a genius at showing absolutely no weakness whatsoever and projecting macho man confidence. He is a giant walking, living, breathing self-fulfilling prophecy."
"Narcissist," Bannon wrote back.

Seven months later, Bannon left Breitbart to lead the Trump campaign.

 

[plague311]

So apparently now Manafort is going to try and sue his way out of this, because that works. In true Trump style, he's claiming that Rosenstien didn't have the authority to hire Mueller, and if he did, Mueller has stepped outside of that scope.

Basically, "we didn't do it. If we did, they shouldn't have been able to find out about it. And even though they did, it's not really illegal. And if it is, then stop it."

Classic.

 

[blutoski]

Sounds like they have no problem throwing Kushner under the bus. We shouldn't be surprised Bannon et al is going in that direction.

I always wondered how that alliance even came to be. Bannon is antiestablishment, and Trump is pretty much the poster child for The Man. (OK, OK... I need to work on that metaphor)

I keep circling back to the theory that Trump did not want or expect to win... that the future of Trump Media was to be raking it in as a rightwing blowhard on extensive platforms (such as Brietbart, FoxNews, perhaps his own channels) until he had so many strokes his speech was incomprehensible.

Then, uhoh, he's president. Trump's ambition went from paying off his debt with radio op/eds to plans for the first American monarchy. Bannon's dream of partnering up with a cash cow was shattered by waking up one morning as the Little People, and maybe especially Bannon getting the boot because he's not on board with that whole oligarchy thing.

 

[Childlike Empress]

"Highly likely", perhaps?

By now, maybe. But remember that Steve Bannon is allegedly an evil genius and there might be something not visible on the surface to him telling this "controversial" author these things. Just don't go down the "if Bannon says it it must be true" road. I never would do that with Lindsey Graham.

 

[Stacko]

More intrigue.

Confirmed: Rosenstein is meeting with Ryan about Russia investigation, aide says​

 

[blutoski]

By now, maybe. But remember that Steve Bannon is allegedly an evil genius and there might be something not visible on the surface to him telling this "controversial" author these things. Just don't go down the "if Bannon says it it must be true" road. I never would do that with Lindsey Graham.

I'm also cynical about the media choice... a book.

If Bannon really wanted to cut up Trump, and if he really had evidence (instead of hyperbole and insults) he would have picked up the phone and called the FBI. Instead we're to believe there's something actionable, but he decided to hold off and publish it in a book months later. Nah, he's full of **** as usual.

 

[Minoosh]

I'm also cynical about the media choice... a book.

If Bannon really wanted to cut up Trump, and if he really had evidence (instead of hyperbole and insults) he would have picked up the phone and called the FBI. Instead we're to believe there's something actionable, but he decided to hold off and publish it in a book months later. Nah, he's full of **** as usual.

So what if he's full of it? What's the strategy here? To call out Trump as too inept to successfully collude? By implying that The Three Stooges running the campaign behaved like such rank amateurs that they should be laughingly written off as not worthy of investigating?

I wonder if Trump knew this was coming, if Bannon's use of the word "treasonous" is a way to get that word out of the way, to pre-empt the shock value of it. Just a guess of course.

Anyway, how do we know Bannon didn't contact the FBI? I can't remember if that's come up before. I wonder if Trump and Bannon are playing us somehow.

Bannon is manipulative; who is he trying to manipulate?

 

[blutoski]

So what if he's full of it? What's the strategy here? To call out Trump as too inept to successfully collude? By implying that The Three Stooges running the campaign behaved like such rank amateurs that they should be laughingly written off as not worthy of investigating?

I wonder if Trump knew this was coming, if Bannon's use of the word "treasonous" is a way to get that word out of the way, to pre-empt the shock value of it. Just a guess of course.

Anyway, how do we know Bannon didn't contact the FBI? I can't remember if that's come up before. I wonder if Trump and Bannon are playing us somehow.

Bannon is manipulative; who is he trying to manipulate?

I think he's trying to sell books, to make money. This 'manipulation' just smells like marketing.

 

[Stacko]

So what if he's full of it? What's the strategy here? To call out Trump as too inept to successfully collude? By implying that The Three Stooges running the campaign behaved like such rank amateurs that they should be laughingly written off as not worthy of investigating?

I wonder if Trump knew this was coming, if Bannon's use of the word "treasonous" is a way to get that word out of the way, to pre-empt the shock value of it. Just a guess of course.

Anyway, how do we know Bannon didn't contact the FBI? I can't remember if that's come up before. I wonder if Trump and Bannon are playing us somehow.

Bannon is manipulative; who is he trying to manipulate?

Bannon's long term goal is to burn down the current Republican party and replace it with one of his own vision. It appears Bannon is signaling:

• The Bannon brand should survive in politics even if major people go down in the Russia investigation
• He thinks some people deserve to go down and probably will for their inept treason
• He won't

 

[Minoosh]

I think he's trying to sell books, to make money. This 'manipulation' just smells like marketing.

Well, marketing is manipulation.

As much as I like the idea of these unpleasant individuals turning on each other I wonder if some of these "feuds" are all they're cracked up to be.

 

[Minoosh]

Bannon's long term goal is to burn down the current Republican party and replace it with one of his own vision. It appears Bannon is signaling:

• The Bannon brand should survive in politics even if major people go down in the Russia investigation
• He thinks some people deserve to go down and probably will for their inept treason
• He won't

These are all good points. I just have a hard time believing Bannon would be torching the bridge to the White House/Trump presidency without having some backup plan.