Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

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So Trump of late has been opining publicly that he expects Mueller will "treat me fairly."

Oh yeah, he will, Donnie. Just know that "fairly" and "favourably" are NOT the same thing.

I wonder why the numerous talking heads with the news outfits I've watched segments of on YT have not raised this important distinction.
 
Not that anybody who's been following this at all needs more evidence, but more evidence that the Steele Dossier was not the basis of the investigation into Trump

Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.

GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
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Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.

It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
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Childlike Empress said:
Tee-hee. It's a small world: https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/948005507410857985
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First off, this is another case of "okay. And?" Perhaps this time you'll answer the question - so what?

Secondly, you appear to have posted a link that demonstrates a lack of reading comprehension (or deliberate obfuscation) on Ames' part. The two quotes in question:

[Carter Page]'s trip last July was a catalyst for the F.B.I. investigation[...]
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The hacking and the revelation that [Papadopolous] may have had inside information [...] were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation[...]
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He seems to have read "a catalyst" as "the catalyst" and "driving factors" as "the only factors".
 
^ If that's good enough for you as an excuse for these two leading stories by the same rag and partly even the same authors, well, just rest assured that it isn't people like that who I'm posting for. And remember: Relax.
 
Well, I didn't even know who those authors were before you brought them up, so I feel no need to make any kinds of "excuse" for them. It makes absolutely no difference to me if they're the best reporters in the world or the worst reporters in the world.

However, I will note that, again, you've failed to explain what relevance you believe what you post has. And you've also failed to muster a defense of Ames' misrepresenting the content of those articles. Let's just hope for his sake, and the sake of those who get their information from him, that it wasn't deliberate on his part, shall we?

And I do wonder, though - who are you posting for? You evidently have no idea why I'm posting, despite the fact that I've explicitly said so, so instead you presume. This says a lot more about you than it does about me.
 
The founders of Fusion GPS are calling on the House and Senate committees to release transcripts of their testimony.

The Republicans’ Fake Investigations

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

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Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.

We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.
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It's all unraveling.
 
WilliamSeger said:
The Republicans’ Fake Investigations
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Hmm? I'm left to wonder what is fake about the investigations? The Republicans are seriously trying to find any dirt or loophole that they can, by the look of it. That they happen not to be investigations focused on finding the truth about something that they think could be politically damaging to them, but rather on ways to try to negate the political damage is a different matter entirely! :p

Either way, the Republicans have been pushing absurdity for years. Why would they stop before their base seriously takes them to task for it?
 
Aridas said:
Hmm? I'm left to wonder what is fake about the investigations? The Republicans are seriously trying to find any dirt or loophole that they can, by the look of it. That they happen not to be investigations focused on finding the truth about something that they think could be politically damaging to them, but rather on ways to try to negate the political damage is a different matter entirely! :p

Either way, the Republicans have been pushing absurdity for years. Why would they stop before their base seriously takes them to task for it?
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Why would they stop even then?

It isn't like that base is going to start voting for Democrats as a reflection of their ire.

There might be some pundit posturing and crocodile tears at the very worst of the transgressions and tomfoolery, but when it comes time to go to the polls they'll hold their noses and vote Republican anyway.
 
It seems even Steve Bannon thinks that Trump Jr, Kushner and Manaford meeting with a Russian laywer at Trump Tower was "treasonous".

This story notes that ... "Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”
 
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It seems even Steve Bannon thinks that Trump Jr, Kushner and Manaford meeting with a Russian laywer at Trump Tower was "treasonous".

This story notes that ... "Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ****, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”
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#oysteinbookmark so I can find the preview to Wolff's book "Fire and Fury" again
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Well, sure, Steve Bannon is now accusing Trump of treason.
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No, not sure. A Guardian writer says Bannon is quoted as such in a book "obtained by the Guardian ahead of publication from a bookseller in New England" by a writer known for his ********, and a first quote in that book is already denied before publication if you scroll to the last paragraph in the Guardian piece and read it.

You are sure. It isn't.
 
You're right. Direct, attributed quotes are definitely less reliable than some quibbling semantics. You've convinced me. Trump rules!
 
Trump responds: Bannon "lost his mind" after losing his job as aide.

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind."
 
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Trump also says that the 17 candidates he beat for the Republican nomination were "often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party".

:dl:
 
Citation for the above: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42560520

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind," Mr Trump said in a statement on Wednesday.

"Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party," he continued.

"Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look. Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country."
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Wow, talk about throwing Bannon under the bus. And not just your average bus, we're talking bi-articulated, 14 wheels of mauling. I, mean, just wow.

"Just a staffer", "Very little to do with..victory"?!

Bannon is getting a harsh lesson on how little Trump values loyalty towards others.
 
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