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Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 3

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Skeptic Ginger said:
Meanwhile, under the radar (temporarily, hopefully): HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE REPORT RECOMMENDS REPEALING LAW THAT EXPERTS SAY TRUMP CAMPAIGN VIOLATEDImagine that, repeal the law that the Trump campaign broke when they got the help of Russia to get Trump elected.

It would appear the GOP is all in with Putin.
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Every day on TV there are people and journalists who blurt out that Russia interfered in the American elections, as though it was an established fact, without presenting a shred of evidence to back it up. They then come out with some story that Russia was trying to disturb politics in America without presenting any FACTS, or examples. It's just all opinions and beliefs. I agree the Russians might have opinions, but there is no law against that.

There is a bit about this matter at:

https://yournewswire.com/us-interfered-in-foreign-elections-81-times-in-54-years/
 
Henri McPhee said:
Every day on TV there are people and journalists who blurt out that Russia interfered in the American elections, as though it was an established fact, without presenting a shred of evidence to back it up.
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The Director of National Intelligence, the director of the CIA, the director of the FBI, and and director of the NSA all say that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, and that they are already actively interfering in the 2018 elections. That seems like evidence to me. I mean, they could all be lying, but to what end? And why haven't there been any leaks which contradict them? Even Trump admits that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, although he had to state at the same time that their meddling was ineffective, and say that other countries and individuals did, too.
 
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Henri McPhee said:
Every day on TV there are people and journalists who blurt out that Russia interfered in the American elections, as though it was an established fact, without presenting a shred of evidence to back it up. They then come out with some story that Russia was trying to disturb politics in America without presenting any FACTS, or examples. It's just all opinions and beliefs. I agree the Russians might have opinions, but there is no law against that.
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You are wildly uninformed. Here's a short list of highlights:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...into-trump-and-russia/?utm_term=.8102456b1a05

And here's the Democratic response to the Republican intelligence committee report:
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/13/5933...ts-release-response-to-gop-russia-conclusions
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The Director of National Intelligence, the director of the CIA, the director of the FBI, and and director of the NSA all say that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, and that they are already actively interfering in the 2018 elections. That seems like evidence to me. I mean, they could all be lying, but to what end? And why haven't there been any leaks which contradict them? Even Trump admits that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, although he had to state at the same time that their meddling was ineffective, and say that other countries and individuals did, too.
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Don't bother, conspiracists think the US intelligence community is all part of their favorite conspiracy anyway.
 
LSSBB said:
Don't bother, conspiracists think the US intelligence community is all part of their favorite conspiracy anyway.
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Yeah, but not all or most of the GOP used to count as conspiracy theorists. That's a change.

My own brother buys this deep state ********. Didn't used to be like this.
 
phiwum said:
Yeah, but not all or most of the GOP used to count as conspiracy theorists. That's a change.

My own brother buys this deep state ********. Didn't used to be like this.
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I'd recommend listening to Slow Burn to dispel your nostalgia googles. It's always been like this; it's just that the parties hadn't finished their North/South divide due to the southern strategy the last time this happened.
 
Another problem with Trump on the Russian front:

Apparently none of his personal lawyers have full security clearance. (The only one who did was Dowd, but he quit. There is Cobb, who does have clearance, but he represents the office of the president (rather than Trump himself) so he wouldn't be able to help with the Russian defense. There are others on the trump team who's clearance is awaiting approval, but who knows when that will happen.

So, despite all of Trump's demands for a quick end to the investigation, his best course of action is to let things drag on longer so that he can actually get his lawyers cleared.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/report-trumps-lawyers-dont-have-security-clearance.html
 
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/991461372704755712

U.S. Treasury amends sanctions on Russia, paving the way for aluminum giant Rusal to be removed from the blacklist
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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/991695024608903169

Rusal's head is Oleg Deripaska, a likely Trump co-conspirator. Late last year it was reported he'd step down and cash out, right when Rusal sanctions were announced. Now we hear Trump will give Rusal a pass and Deripaska won't step down. How damn transparent can these people be?
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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/991695764840763392

2/ Understand that Deripaska's announcement he'd step down preceded Trump's surprise announcement of Rusal sanctions by a week, suggesting he had advance notice. Guess how many days before the announcement Rusal wouldn't be sanctioned Deripaska decided to stay at Rusal?

A week.
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Link to article in first tweet.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The Director of National Intelligence, the director of the CIA, the director of the FBI, and and director of the NSA all say that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, and that they are already actively interfering in the 2018 elections. That seems like evidence to me. I mean, they could all be lying, but to what end? And why haven't there been any leaks which contradict them? Even Trump admits that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections, although he had to state at the same time that their meddling was ineffective, and say that other countries and individuals did, too.
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But that’s not a shred, is it?

Not a shred.
 
Segnosaur said:
Another problem with Trump on the Russian front:

Apparently none of his personal lawyers have full security clearance. (The only one who did was Dowd, but he quit. There is Cobb, who does have clearance, but he represents the office of the president (rather than Trump himself) so he wouldn't be able to help with the Russian defense. There are others on the trump team who's clearance is awaiting approval, but who knows when that will happen.

So, despite all of Trump's demands for a quick end to the investigation, his best course of action is to let things drag on longer so that he can actually get his lawyers cleared.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/report-trumps-lawyers-dont-have-security-clearance.html
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And to make things even more convoluted, Ty Cobb will be getting his walking papers soon and he will be replaced by Emmet Flood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...58a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.69d1b66b6e43

Ugh!

I guess Trump is finally learning that money does not buy happiness.
 
Crossbow said:
And to make things even more convoluted, Ty Cobb will be getting his walking papers soon and he will be replaced by Emmet Flood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...58a1aa9ac0a_story.html?utm_term=.69d1b66b6e43

Ugh!

I guess Trump is finally learning that money does not buy happiness.
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Trump plans to replace Cobb with Emmet Flood, who represented former President Bill Clinton while he went through impeachment proceedings, The New York Times reported. It is unclear if Flood will be granted a security clearance.
So yeah, still no clearances. :)
 
TheL8Elvis said:
Trump plans to replace Cobb with Emmet Flood, who represented former President Bill Clinton while he went through impeachment proceedings, The New York Times reported. It is unclear if Flood will be granted a security clearance.
So yeah, still no clearances. :)
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This story just gets better and better
 
phiwum said:
Yeah, but not all or most of the GOP used to count as conspiracy theorists. That's a change.

My own brother buys this deep state ********. Didn't used to be like this.
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I'm pretty sure the discussion here involves at leat one individual who may be neither Democrat or Republican, who is railing against what they hear and see on TV
 
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